gitana1
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no one knows what it's like to live in fear when you are dealing with a narcissist, unless you have been/are married to one. The judicial system is a JOKE. The lawyers just want to bill, they drag everything out, cancel hearings, file contempt of court order documents, and nothing gets done. Narcissists are all alike, get a room of us together who lived through this hell, all of our stories will be identical, it's like they have a narcissist playbook. The judges and attorney's are clueless to what these women-yes, some are men who are dealing with narcissistic wives, but the majority are men. Most women are so embarrassed that they tolerated the abuse for so long, it's not until the very end that they start to reach out for help, often times feeling like no one will believe them because the NARC is so good at deceiving.
There are many attorneys who drag things out to make a buck. I am dealing with a couple now. It's awful.
But there are many like me who just honestly try to help our clients the best we can.
There are often continuances and cancellations due to the vagaries of the court system or issues with counsel being called back to a case with priority. That's no ones fault although some do play the system to drag things out.
I get very frustrated by that.
The judges and attorneys are not clueless as to what it's like to deal with narcissists. We understand better than anyone besides the people actually married to them. Because in our business that's who we have to deal with on a frequent basis. Narcissists, sociopaths, people with borderline personality disorder, people with untreated bipolar disorder, people with drug and alcohol addictions and the selfishness that goes along with that.
As I said, when both parties are normal, things settle fast. But at the actual litigation stage, at least one side is nuts.
Yes, more men seem to be narcissistic than women. It's been studied. But in my 17 years I have frankly seen just as many women with personality disorders or other issues, destroying their kids and playing the system, as men. In fact, probably slightly more.
Women think men are more often the issue because they're friends with other women so that's what they hear about. But I represent both genders so I know.
More women I see tend to have borderline personality disorder than men. And there is still a gender bias in general, in custody decisions, which men have to fight against.
So while there are gender differences in how people exhibit emotional problems, the effect is sort of equally balanced between the genders.
The judicial system tries hard to do its best. But sit on the other side of the table for a couple of weeks and you will be pulling out your hair.
Again, judges hear case after case after case, endlessly, with people accusing each other and most are exaggerating or lying. Others perceive things a certain way and don't realize their emotions are causing a misinterpretation. I watch what the judges have to deal with and I would never do it. It's super hard to tell who is telling the truth after only a bit of time listening to their attorneys talk. And it's an impacted system.
Filing contempt actions is a means of trying to get the other side to comply with court orders. It's not a joke. It's one of the tools we have but ultimately we can't force someone to play by the rules. And of course we get blamed for wasting everyone's time and incurring more fees when it doesn't work. But there's only so much we can do.
But you know what? Frankly it's very frustrating that people mess up their own lives by picking jerks, making a bunch of children with them and entangling their finances work these winners and then expect strangers who barely know them (judges and attorneys) to "fix" their mess, and if we can't, the system is a joke.
Ultimately, it's like one of my old bosses says, "You picked them."
We are not going to be able to perfectly fix the mess people make of their lives by pickings losers and making a family with them. It's an impossibility though the court system.
Therapy is what should have been used, long before people make the bad choices they then want to blame on the judicial system.