Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #19

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Notice how the reporter got his facts straight regarding the fact that the man in the video resembling FD. Way to go afitzy for keeping the reporting honest! The relationship between NP and some local reposters is just a little too cozy in my opinion. It is not uncommon for reporters to know and be friendly with local lawyers, but that work friendship should end when the reporting begins. This reporter may think he is getting "insider" information from NP. What he is actually getting is a line of horse hockey. HE knows, as well as anyone with a brain, that FD murdered his wife. I am not asking him to convict FD in the press, buy I do believe he needs to step back and realize that he, too, is being manipulated by FD...and it shows.
Absolutely agree! LUV the term 'reposter'! Have been hunting for an accurate word to describe the sad situation amongst the press in CT and IMO this word is PERFECTION! Will be using it from now on! :D

It just seems like one big game of 'telephone' with so many of the news reports and to see some TV stations and press simply unable to copy words in the proper order from court documents and each other, while at times is comical, has become a bit much IMO:mad:!
 
Alot to chew on here! Thanks for this detailed view of things and your opinion on my rambling half baked theory earlier!

I'll take the challenge and do some thinking on it while I type away!

I go back and forth on the accomplice/s idea. Given what we have learned about FO I really wonder if he has the capacity to trust anyone with something so significant as a plot like this one? IDK, but I somehow doubt it. I do think with planning and a willingness to jog that one determined person could commit this crime. My guess at this point is using KM and sister as alibi patsy's and commiting the crime himself while using EE as a possible scapegoat/patsy. I could also see MT being asked to drop off a vehicle someplace along the path too.

I think most here see EE with the red truck (driving the FO Ford 150 Raptor in NC on the missing date) as an unwilling accomplice in some way to either transfer bags between vehicles in Farmington or even possibly to move a body. So glad this guy got to LE pronto and got legal representation to protect himself otherwise Pattisville would have made mincemeat of him! Grrr. Can you imagine FO putting a black contractor bag in the back of EE with Ford Raptor truck and asking that he simply bring the bag back to 80 MS? Most likely this scenario would mean that another vehicle was driven in NC on the 24th such as the Suburban etc. but its a curious although improbable idea I think. There had to be a reason the EE red truck going through the car wash in Avon, so my guess is that the red truck was seen in NC on the missing date or was used to transport body from place to place in Farmington.

Originally I thought Sturbridge would be ideal place to take a body as it would be private and and away from prying eyes but yet still close to Welles. The thing I thought might work would be the FORE trailer that has been in the ft yd of Sturbridge up until recently. We didn't see LE take the trailer and they released Sturbridge back to FO so I'm not sure this property is in the mix.

This then led me to 80 MS where for whatever reason I think FO did most of his evil 'work'. I would love to see FO credit card statements in the months leading up to this crime as IMO with a little bit of planning he could have set up a full 'clean room' at 80 MS with no issues and off the shelf materials. Problem is that any materials would be items used in his 'contractor' business. I do wonder what LE have found in terms of forensic evidence at 80 MS. I also would like to see the sniffer dogs return to area around 4Jx and Mountain Spring to again look around. I know its a large area but in so many other cases when dogs return to a spot they happen to find things. I do think its possible that individual items are buried in/around these 2 properties or in the 585 property acreage.

For me the imaginary video of this crime that plays in my brain now has fewer 'gaps' and is a bit more cohesive in its narrative.

The timeline is interesting and I am still going back and forth about the FO trip to NYC to supposedly see or pick up the children and then he was met by GF armed guards. I do wonder about the mental state of FD and MT during this entire period from the Albany Trip (the infamous Pattisville anomaly!) until the trip to NYC. Were 'Bonnie and Clyde' thinking that they had pulled off the crime of the century or were they uncertain and anxious? The adrenaline rush and subsequent crash most likely impacted both FO and HO IMO. I do wonder what the eyewitness accounts will be of those that encountered FO in NYC and his run in with the armed guards. Did GF speak with FO at all from the missing date onward? Did GF and NC JD friends use any subterfuge to lull FO into a sense of calm that he had pulled off the perfect crime? IMO the friends/GF reported JD much earlier in the day to NCPD on the 24th and the timeline was adjusted in the arrest warrant. Whatever the GF/Friends did IMO has made this entire investigation possible so kudos to them!


Still working on the puzzle and quite curious what everyone thinks!
MOO

As a mother, I would have a hard time keeping myself from asking him what he did with my daughter, and so I wondered myself if GF had spoken to FD. I don’t know what the dynamic between those two was, but it is my opinion that she never liked him, not ever. Hard to tell if she somehow managed to keep herself from speaking to him, but I suppose GF has known since May 24th that FD killed her daughter, and so there was no need to ask him anything. I am so glad she jumped immediately and got an armed guard to keep him away from the apartment in the city. Actually, I wonder if she hasn’t had an armed guard since before 5/24, because of the suit she filed against him-she knew what he was.
 
Does anyone know if Atty Dranginis gave an interview to any of the press and that is how these comments made it out to the public this weekend? I saw the court filing earlier but its dated 9/3 and I don't think anyone has seen a full copy yet. Is this another HC "scoop"?
 
This Radar online article from early June says there was a major development at a house owned by FORE in New Canaan. It's also Radar so grain of salt.


Police Deem Missing Connecticut Mother Case A 'Homicide'

Moo, sorry if this has been posted before.
Thanks for that! I had forgotten some important info in that article. From it, we know he came in through the open garage door. The reference to the drain, which we discussed a while back, also tells us he (excuse me, but there is no better word) butchered Jennifer's body, perhaps in a shower or other area with water and a drain, thinking his actions would wash away proof of his crime. How wrong he was! FD took her to the residence where the neighbors heard the noises. LE must have had a field day there. Is that also the home where MT was showing LE around and specifically pointing out areas in he back-she must know something about his trail. I believe there was also poison ivy found somewhere in the wooded area of the back. Also, the FBI was involved from the beginning, as was the Marshal's Office. Those agents do not play!
 
As a mother, I would have a hard time keeping myself from asking him what he did with my daughter, and so I wondered myself if GF had spoken to FD. I don’t know what the dynamic between those two was, but it is my opinion that she never liked him, not ever. Hard to tell if she somehow managed to keep herself from speaking to him, but I suppose GF has known since May 24th that FD killed her daughter, and so there was no need to ask him anything. I am so glad she jumped immediately and got an armed guard to keep him away from the apartment in the city. Actually, I wonder if she hasn’t had an armed guard since before 5/24, because of the suit she filed against him-she knew what he was.
This issue of GF convo with FO in/around the 24th/missing date and through the weekend is interesting and possibly relevant to how things played out.

I just go back to the 911 call that FD made when JD left for good from 4Jx. He seemed to be texting and calling anyone that had a phone number in his contact list that day. I wonder if the missing date was similar? I'm not sure why my feeling is that the friends/GF knew JD was missing much before the report was 'officially' filed but I think they knew and were in contact with NCPD and managed to keep FO off balance and guessing what was going on.

I wonder also if during this period either someone reached out to FO or FO reached out to them to see if they knew where JD was? I can see some crazy story about how, "I'm just trying to track her down to coordinate the dropoff and pickup of the children etc"? It seems like there must have been some contact if he took the step to go into the city IMO. Did he contact the nanny or did he reach GF and she wouldn't give him any information?

Why did he drive into the city and how did he know that the children were there? Did one of the children contact him? There is a story here IMO and I'm not sure we know what it is until trial, but I am curious if there was a plan in GF's mind on how to keep FO off balance during this period.

I also wonder if he had managed to secure the children what would he have done with them? Would they still be here today? Or, would he and MT packed up the tent and taken the children to Argentina or Greece? Did he have plane tickets in hand?
 
Thanks for that! I had forgotten some important info in that article. From it, we know he came in through the open garage door. The reference to the drain, which we discussed a while back, also tells us he (excuse me, but there is no better word) butchered Jennifer's body, perhaps in a shower or other area with water and a drain, thinking his actions would wash away proof of his crime. How wrong he was! FD took her to the residence where the neighbors heard the noises. LE must have had a field day there. Is that also the home where MT was showing LE around and specifically pointing out areas in he back-she must know something about his trail. I believe there was also poison ivy found somewhere in the wooded area of the back. Also, the FBI was involved from the beginning, as was the Marshal's Office. Those agents do not play!
The place where the nanny/dog sitter heard the noise was Sturbridge in NC. The place where MT was showing LE around was FO house at 4Jx in Farmington.
 
Does anyone know if Atty Dranginis gave an interview to any of the press and that is how these comments made it out to the public this weekend? I saw the court filing earlier but its dated 9/3 and I don't think anyone has seen a full copy yet. Is this another HC "scoop"?
Probably was an after hours filing. Pleadings are e-filed now. If it went out after 5 p.m., the filing could reflect the next day the clerk of court's office was open, which would be 9/3 (because of Labor Day).
 
The place where the nanny/dog sitter heard the noise was Sturbridge in NC. The place where MT was showing LE around was FO house at 4Jx in Farmington.

How DO you keep it all straight?
Thanks for that! I had forgotten some important info in that article. From it, we know he came in through the open garage door. The reference to the drain, which we discussed a while back, also tells us he (excuse me, but there is no better word) butchered Jennifer's body, perhaps in a shower or other area with water and a drain, thinking his actions would wash away proof of his crime. How wrong he was! FD took her to the residence where the neighbors heard the noises. LE must have had a field day there. Is that also the home where MT was showing LE around and specifically pointing out areas in he back-she must know something about his trail. I believe there was also poison ivy found somewhere in the wooded area of the back. Also, the FBI was involved from the beginning, as was the Marshal's Office. Those agents do not play!

I'm not really sure how @afitzy keeps it all straight. You all are just amazing.
 
This issue of GF convo with FO in/around the 24th/missing date and through the weekend is interesting and possibly relevant to how things played out.

I just go back to the 911 call that FD made when JD left for good from 4Jx. He seemed to be texting and calling anyone that had a phone number in his contact list that day. I wonder if the missing date was similar? I'm not sure why my feeling is that the friends/GF knew JD was missing much before the report was 'officially' filed but I think they knew and were in contact with NCPD and managed to keep FO off balance and guessing what was going on.

I wonder also if during this period either someone reached out to FO or FO reached out to them to see if they knew where JD was? I can see some crazy story about how, "I'm just trying to track her down to coordinate the dropoff and pickup of the children etc"? It seems like there must have been some contact if he took the step to go into the city IMO. Did he contact the nanny or did he reach GF and she wouldn't give him any information?

Why did he drive into the city and how did he know that the children were there? Did one of the children contact him? There is a story here IMO and I'm not sure we know what it is until trial, but I am curious if there was a plan in GF's mind on how to keep FO off balance during this period.

I also wonder if he had managed to secure the children what would he have done with them? Would they still be here today? Or, would he and MT packed up the tent and taken the children to Argentina or Greece? Did he have plane tickets in hand?

This, I wondered about weeks ago here...did he buy plane tickets for the kids and himself, in preparation of such an escape (which luckily went wrong. There will be a record of it somewhere, and obviously will tell LE a story.
 
The place where the nanny/dog sitter heard the noise was Sturbridge in NC. The place where MT was showing LE around was FO house at 4Jx in Farmington.
Thanks, so that means he did go through the woods to avoid his neighbor's cameras at some point. But the house where the noises came from was in NC, 3 miles from Jennifer's house, right? Wonder how far it was through the woods? I am sure LE has a map, timeline, etc. Not being familiar with the area, it is hard to visualize. I wish someone would write an article that gives us better understanding of the geography of it all. There may be one that I have missed.
 
Mother of missing New Canaan woman Jennifer Farber Dulos responds: I’ll get psychiatric evaluation if estranged husband Fotis Dulos does, too
To be clear, [Gloria] Farber has no objection to the Court ordering her to undergo a psychological evaluation if the Court deems it appropriate, Farber’s lawyer, Anne Dranginis, said in a statement Saturday. “Any such order should be reciprocal such that the defendant should likewise be evaluated, and the costs of the same should be allocated between Mrs. Farber and the defendant.”
Dranginis didn’t respond directly to Rochlin’s allegations, saying only Saturday that his motion is a “distorted, self-serving reference to a private, health-related issue that was resolved many years ago, as the defendant is well aware."

“His effort to not only publicly shame Mrs. Farber, but in essence shame any person that has appropriately addressed a mental health issue, sends a poor message to his children,” Dranginis said.

“It is Mrs. Farber who has competently managed their care since the dreadful events of May 24, 2019 have so negatively affected their lives,” Dranginis wrote. “Most importantly, Mrs. Farber has steadfastly demonstrated her devotion to her grandchildren and competence to provide for them financially, physically and emotionally especially since their mother, whose demise is greatly feared, went missing.”

Dranginis also criticized the tone of the motion.
Instead of filing a straightforward motion for psychological evaluation, as is done in countless dissolution proceedings, the defendant’s motion is intended to be salacious and again demonstrates his capacity for cruelty, inability to abide by Court orders and his efforts to publicly shame Mrs. Farber as he did to his wife in the context of the earlier divorce proceedings,” she said.
go GF!!

to MT, how would you feel if this was your mother subjected to this craziness??

and to the mother of MT, how would you feel if this was you??
 
Notice how the reporter got his facts straight regarding the fact that the man in the video resembling FD. Way to go afitzy for keeping the reporting honest! The relationship between NP and some local reposters is just a little too cozy in my opinion. It is not uncommon for reporters to know and be friendly with local lawyers, but that work friendship should end when the reporting begins. This reporter may think he is getting "insider" information from NP. What he is actually getting is a line of horse hockey. HE knows, as well as anyone with a brain, that FD murdered his wife. I am not asking him to convict FD in the press, but I do believe he needs to step back and realize that he, too, is being manipulated by FD...and it shows.

Certainly did notice! Nice work @afitzy....Just printing a motion written for the courts hardly equals "reporting." The balance of previously known information reported by the HC combined with the response by Anne Dranginis to FD's motion was outstanding. Good work....the reader's opinion does matter. Thanks for reminding the Courant.
All media is too focused on immediacy and clicks to support thorough and complete journalism...IMO. And "Proselytizing Pettis" seems to hypnotize folks who have otherwise good brains. IMO...MOO
 
Certainly did notice! Nice work @afitzy....Just printing a motion written for the courts hardly equals "reporting." The balance of previously known information reported by the HC combined with the response by Anne Dranginis to FD's motion was outstanding. Good work....the reader's opinion does matter. Thanks for reminding the Courant.
All media is too focused on immediacy and clicks to support thorough and complete journalism...IMO. And "Proselytizing Pettis" seems to hypnotize folks who have otherwise good brains. IMO...MOO

Another 'P' Word. Proselytizing. Love It.
 
Mother of missing New Canaan woman Jennifer Farber Dulos responds: I’ll get psychiatric evaluation if estranged husband Fotis Dulos does, too
To be clear, [Gloria] Farber has no objection to the Court ordering her to undergo a psychological evaluation if the Court deems it appropriate, Farber’s lawyer, Anne Dranginis, said in a statement Saturday. “Any such order should be reciprocal such that the defendant should likewise be evaluated, and the costs of the same should be allocated between Mrs. Farber and the defendant.”
Dranginis didn’t respond directly to Rochlin’s allegations, saying only Saturday that his motion is a “distorted, self-serving reference to a private, health-related issue that was resolved many years ago, as the defendant is well aware."

“His effort to not only publicly shame Mrs. Farber, but in essence shame any person that has appropriately addressed a mental health issue, sends a poor message to his children,” Dranginis said.

“It is Mrs. Farber who has competently managed their care since the dreadful events of May 24, 2019 have so negatively affected their lives,” Dranginis wrote. “Most importantly, Mrs. Farber has steadfastly demonstrated her devotion to her grandchildren and competence to provide for them financially, physically and emotionally especially since their mother, whose demise is greatly feared, went missing.”

Dranginis also criticized the tone of the motion.
Instead of filing a straightforward motion for psychological evaluation, as is done in countless dissolution proceedings, the defendant’s motion is intended to be salacious and again demonstrates his capacity for cruelty, inability to abide by Court orders and his efforts to publicly shame Mrs. Farber as he did to his wife in the context of the earlier divorce proceedings,” she said.

This is wonderful @sds71! Thanks for sharing this with us.

Kudos to Anne Dranginis and Dr. Farber as their succinct reply shows restraint and delineates the pros from the desperate attention seekers. Can't wait to hear NP blunder on about this challenge.
 
Thanks, so that means he did go through the woods to avoid his neighbor's cameras at some point. But the house where the noises came from was in NC, 3 miles from Jennifer's house, right? Wonder how far it was through the woods? I am sure LE has a map, timeline, etc. Not being familiar with the area, it is hard to visualize. I wish someone would write an article that gives us better understanding of the geography of it all. There may be one that I have missed.
We did a map early on in the process with the 2 NC houses and the Farmington properties. Check the media thread too as early on I think it was the DM or HC did a good graphic map.
 
Thanks for taking the time to organize all of this for us
As you so clearly point out the FD tactics in court have consisted of delay/delay and more delay.

Why?

He is still playing the delay/delay/delay game now in Civil Court and he is doing it IMO in defiance of court orders as he is way behind on compliance with discovery motions from 2018 and his last response to the court gave the most flimsy of responses and IMO simply were made to waste court time and require a response from GF/Weinstein. GF just filed for another summary judgment due to the fact that the Quickbooks files that were due in 2018 haven't been forwarded to her atty. Weinstein. I don't believe Weinstein has yet responded to the latest FD/Murray response for discovery which IMO should earn Murrary a charge of contempt as it shouldn't have been signed by an officer of the court IMO as it was absolutely incomplete.

What do we know:

1. FD is sitting on 5 sizable unsold houses: 4 in Farmington and 1 in NC. He also has a good amt of acreage in Avon at 585 property where he/JD used to live before moving to 4Jx and where I believe his mother was run over by the nanny.

2. No visible income since the divorce filing. Stated $50,000/yr income in 2018 I believe and net worth of $341,000 (which I believe roughly equals the 401K that Pattis took in the early days of the criminal case).

3. Manages to pay taxes on real estate (except 4Jx) and cars.

4. Manages to keep gas in the vehicles and the lights on and properties maintained.

5. Properties have debt/leveraged. Debt on 4Jx (2 mortgages), Debt on 80 MS (1-2 mortgages) and Sturbridge in NC (3 mortgages).

6. Trade liens filed on 80 MS (1) and Sturbridge (6).

7. Last FD/FORE signed taxes that appear to have been filed are 2016 1040s.

8. 2017 and 2018 1040 forms were submitted in Civil Case unsigned so the guess is that they haven't been filed. No info on any State of CT tax filings.

9. FD did not pay anything towards the upkeep of his 5 children since the divorce action was filed.

10. FD owes $64,000 for GAL Meehan.

11. FD is keeping a team of lawyers working on his behalf in Family Court, Civil Court and Criminal Court and it is believed that this team of lawyers is being paid by an unknown "Greek Benefactor". It is unclear whether JD / GF have paid any of the FD legal fees in Family Court.

12. 4Jx is in foreclosure. Property is owned 50:50 with JD. GF has been paying the mortgages on the property due to the fact that her property is held as collateral for the loan (believed to be 2nd mortgage).

13. GF has an attachment on the Sturbridge property as part of the Civil Case. GF has gone back to Judge to have the attachment increased.

14. It is unclear whether FD/FORE maintains any property insurance on any of the 5 houses presently owned. It is likely that where there is bank financing that property insurance is required. But it would be a good idea to make sure that the insurance has been paid and is current on all houses.

15. Other than the recently finished Sturbridge NC property, FD/FORE hasn't started a new project since the divorce action was filed.

16. It is believed that FD might own other CT real estate via cloaked means and is also known to own real estate in Greece.

17. It appears that FD has a few private mortgages in 2nd/3rd position on 80 MS and Sturbridge. It is unclear whether there might be unfiled private mortgages on the remaining properties that aren't part of the public record.

I'm convinced the 5 unsold houses were simply built to get whatever cash FD had from FORE that wasn't already gone from the US out of the country along with whatever money he had taken from JD over the years that was still in the US.

Not sure what the ongoing delay is doing to help FO 'Win" but my guess is that all the delay would cease if the money were to 'evaporate' to pay the Pattisville enablers who generate the frivolous motions that keep this hamster wheel going.

MOO
Thanks for taking the time to organize all of this @afitzy. Maybe you could help out FD's confused attorneys who can't seem to get his finances sorted...or perhaps the judge.

Am saving a copy of this in my Dulos file. It will come in handy in the near future, I'm sure! Would love, love to know about the Greek properties. Carry on...Enough is seldom enough! ;);):D MOO
 
Thanks, so that means he did go through the woods to avoid his neighbor's cameras at some point. But the house where the noises came from was in NC, 3 miles from Jennifer's house, right? Wonder how far it was through the woods? I am sure LE has a map, timeline, etc. Not being familiar with the area, it is hard to visualize. I wish someone would write an article that gives us better understanding of the geography of it all. There may be one that I have missed.

Here is link to media thread where the 2 zillow entries are for Welles and Sturbridge and map between 2 properties. Google maps says the shortest route goes through downtown and my guess is that this wouldn't work for someone that wanted to avoid being seen. So, there is another route that is longer which avoids downtown on the map. If you zoom in on google maps take a look at Irwin Park (off of Weed Street) which might be a place where someone might leave there car as there aren't cameras so far as we know on the lower parking lot, the Winter Club (on Frogtown Rd) which might be another place to keep a car and run to Welles but there might be cameras as its a private club and NCCS which is on Frogtown Rd and just a quick drive from Welles.

CT - CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, Media, Maps, Timeline, *NO DISCUSSION*
 
Did FD drive to JD's home?
I used to think he jogged there or something but now I think maybe he got dropped off by an accomplice.

Maybe accomplice was driving red truck?

Let's try this on for size. Feel free to pick apart!!

FD gets dropped off at JD's.
He sneaks in before garage door closes
Kills JD with knife
Puts her remains in mat in her trunk
Cleans up
Drives her remains and bags in her car
Disposed of remains in 'location???'*
Drove vehicle to Waveny
Meets accomplice in red truck there
Puts bags in red truck
Moves bags over to his vehicle at JX or Sturbridge
Accomplice or FD gets red truck washed
Meet with MT and go to Albany Ave.

*Now, if her remains were in tact and he disposed of them someplace other then Albany Ave. then why not put the bags with the remains?

This leads me to believe that whatever location he chose for her either:
1) was small and didn't have the space for the bags/mat/knife/pillow/clothes/mops/sponges as well as her.
Or
2) Was water and these materials would float.


My opinion only!

I believe FD went from Welles directly to Sturbridge to transfer evidence. As far as the question of who moved JD's Suburban to Waveny, I still think FD would have been adamant about not getting his DNA in JD's Suburban because that would nix his suicide/Gone Girl/employee did it scenarios. My question to LE is this: what fingerprints, if any, were found on the steering wheel of JD's Suburban? Only three choices here: 1. JD's; 2. someone else's; or 3) none/wiped clean. MOO. MOO. And furthermore, MOO.
 
What if FD with his new nose and plumped up skin had a personal photographer who happened to also have a newspaper credential so he can follow FD into restricted areas to get all kinds of one-of-a-kind photos.
How much do media outlets pay for photos these days??? Wonder what book deals with never been seen before photos are worth? Think they’re worth more if MSM isn’t always as accurate as one hopes. Inquiring minds want to know.

I can't remember the source but there once was a site where photographers could find the going rate for exclusives of famous people. I bet one of you super-sleuthers could find it and perhaps learn what a
FO/HO-photo is worth!

During the Casey Anthony case network policy was not to pay for interviews but they would pay for exclusive photos. That's how George & Cindy and Jose made big bucks.
 
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