***Day 5 -Committal Hearing*** 18th,19,20th March 2013***

[Hbayne]

Is there any link to the photos of the Brookfield house when it was up for rent

 

[BJsleuth]

Because she made it up on the spot, not knowing what his story was?

Which is weird. If you don't know, that's an acceptable answer "I don't know!" Why make things up?

 

[marlywings]

Also from TM's statement....

We start the bed process at about 8.30 - 9pm at the moment. They are pretty good at going to sleep soon after going to bed. They do talk sometimes. I remained at home with my boys all night that night.

There are no security cameras in my unit block that I am aware of.

SO I guess that's her alibi!?!??!...& lack of security cameras protects her alibi?!?!?

 

[Sleuthis-maximus]

So tired but thinking about this case constantly

 

[DunnoZo]

Yeah it sure was "Business as usual" with regard to the vacuum & hose that NBC was taking to get a house ready for a home open. Wouldn't you think a missing wife/daughter-in-law would be a higher priority? Especially if they thought it was seriously to call in the police so soon.

I would assume that the police got the vacuum bag? All we would need is for there to be one of those few plants located at Kholo and not Brookfield in that bag.

Also, why the call to the groundskeeper? weird.

 

[KG1]

According to the phone records for 20 April 2012;

GBC phoned Allison's mobile at;

6:32am

6:38am

6:45am

The above three calls originated from Brookfield.

At 6:46am GBC phoned EBC. That call originated from Mt. Coot-tha.

GBC then called the following numbers, all calls originating from Brookfield.

6:53am Unknown number, although it may have been Nigelaine's landline.

6:55am Olivia.

7:02am Allison.

7:03am Allison.

7:06am Olivia.

7:09am Kate Rankin.

7:11am Olivia.

7:15am Police.

7:19am Olivia.

7:35am Allison.

7:39am Olivia.

9:51am. The Dickies.


NBC called the following numbers on 20 April 2012.

6:58am GBC. Originated from Kenmore.

7:45am EBC up to 9:48am all from Brookfield.

11:01am Olivia. This call originated from Kenmore.

Looking at this it would seem that GBC was out and about at 6:45am as his call to his mother's phone originated from Mt. Coot-tha. Apparently he was out looking for Allison but he knew that she was already dead. So what was he doing??

GBC then makes quite a few calls to OW, originating from Brookfield. He doesn't phone the Dickie's until 9:51am.

We see that NBC phoned GBC at 6:58am. Then there were a few calls to EBC from Brookfield. So in all likelihood NBC was the first to arrive at GBC's house and OW turned up sometime after 7:39am.

I'm wondering where GBC found the time to have his ****, shower and shave as well as get dressed, make lunches etc. He must think he's Superman. Must be his affinity with phone boxes.

My opinion only and not that of Websleuths.

So when NBC phoned GBC from Kenmore at 6.58am and GBC had called EBC prior to that at 6.46am originating at Mt Coot-tha, was Gerard driving from 6.45am to 6.55am when he got back to Brookfield and phoned Olivia? Where was Gerard? If so, who was looking after the children at Brookfield?

 

[jojo85]

Could any of the locals tell me please...how long does it take to get to St Lucia from Brookfield??

15 minutes. Have done it hundreds of times.

 

[Thinking]

Unless NBC thought that she could turn up any time so he wasn't too worried?

Yes good point Ali - and also if it was all pre-planned, wouldn't they have got rid of that vacuum well before the police arrived - they would have had time? Unless they only thought to take care of it at the last minute.

 

[Snails]

Probably still hoping he didn't do it. He's single now. Available yet still unable to come to her unconditionally.

Sorry for the typos, I have this new android gadget and it does what it wants, if I argue it boots me off websleuths.

After three + years of "on-again off-again" shenanigans, it would be quite clear to me that he had no intention to leave his wife for her. If he truly loved her, he would have been gone in a flash not caring about the financial consequences. People get divorced every day and go bankrupt too. No big deal. At his age, he could have started afresh easily as an employee and still made a go of it. In fact, after reading the financial reports, I'm surprised that his financial advisor had not recommended bankruptcy to him. But then again, his financial planner was probably just as much in the dark as the forensic accountant was. As for TM, she may have had other partners during this time too. Who knows.

 

[BJsleuth]

Yes good point Ali - and also if it was all pre-planned, wouldn't they have got rid of that vacuum well before the police arrived - they would have had time? Unless they only thought to take care of it at the last minute.

Was there a second vacuum? Where did it go?

 

[STELLA85]

I have seen the Gold Suzuki rego WPG02 -private plates - parked outside the Baden-Clays house at Kenmore & Olivia driving it on Moggill Road. Whose car is it with those plates?

Isnt that EBC's car.

 

[Groundedgirl]

He might have told her that. I don't understand why she had to be involved in the media interviews etc. Sure, be there for support but why say anything? Is she trying to control the situation? The relationship between those two just seems "off" to me.

Everything sounds more credible when you have the wife of a minister at your side.

 

[CaseClosed]

I'm not so sure anymore CC. It wouldn't surprise me at all if she's up to her eyeballs in the whole thing. She was at GBC's beck & call all throughout those years when they kept the affair going. Telling lies to the world to keep it going.

She'd literally bend over backwards to do anything for him.

Cars going through roundabout??...hmmm I wonder if a blue Lexus was among them.

QPS are not dumb. If there was the slightest indication that she was a suspect, we would know by now. QPS are using her to extract info to use against GBC, you know, pillow talk type conversations that might reveal something incriminating for GBC. IMO.

 

[Thinking]

I'm not so sure anymore CC. It wouldn't surprise me at all if she's up to her eyeballs in the whole thing. She was at GBC's beck & call all throughout those years when they kept the affair going. Telling lies to the world to keep it going.

She'd literally bend over backwards to do anything for him.

Cars going through roundabout??...hmmm I wonder if a blue Lexus was among them.

I'm still unsure, but I have to say I was expecting to see some form of shock, horror or dismay at what ultimately happened to Allison, when TM was on the stand. There was none of it - Allison didn't even seem to register in her mind. It was all about TM and GBC and how difficult the whole thing had been and how sorry she was that this was happening to him (she mentioned that she said this when they met up at the Valley apartment). In her defence I guess she did have to follow the line of questioning, and maybe she didn't get the opportunity to show any emotion about Allison (but I think I'm being too kind to be honest...)

 

[marlywings]

QPS are not dumb. If there was the slightest indication that she was a suspect, we would know by now. QPS are using her to extract info to use against GBC, you know, pillow talk type conversations that might reveal something incriminating for GBC. IMO.

She's the star witness....needs protection in court.

I'm thinking the reason why her statement #5 hasn't been released is because it may contain a bit of a bombshell.

Star chamber comes to mind...lol.

 

[AAAA]

All the urgency...when Allison was only a few minutes late...and given they had an agrument the night before...she hated excersice...so der is she going to go walking,,,with a new hairdo...when she hated excercise...I have asked before if anyone knows which Gym she sopossedly met up with TM....'' What gym????:

Far to late to come up with better senarios GBC...case closed...:jail:

I think it was indooroopilly workout, near St Peters Lutheran School.

 

[Humdinger]

She's the star witness....needs protection in court.

I'm thinking the reason why her statement #5 hasn't been released is because it may contain a bit of a bombshell.

Star chamber comes to mind...lol.

I tend to agree!

 

[DrWatson]

I've been off the air all day, and have just finished catching up on nearly 30 pages of excellent sleuthing from everyone. So thanks to everyone who posted on this thread and on the general one.

I've also caught up with Twitter. My other half thinks I'm crazy sitting in a holiday unit reading web pages, tapping my fingers, muttering to myself with the odd "Hmmm" and "Oh yeah" thrown in for good measure.

Thanks to all. I'll be off the air again tomorrow until late evening (these holidays are SUCH a distraction!) and will catch up again then.

So if there are any questions specifically aimed my way, please excuse the delay in replying - it's nothing personal! :great:

Great sleuthing..! :rocker:

 

[BJsleuth]

Everything sounds more credible when you have the wife of a minister at your side.

If she hadn't said and done things that have made it look worse for him, I'd agree lol I suppose he needs the proceeds of the Sunday plate so he can't tell her to get lost. Yet.

 

[Snails]

She's the star witness....needs protection in court.

I'm thinking the reason why her statement #5 hasn't been released is because it may contain a bit of a bombshell.

Star chamber comes to mind...lol.

I love it when you tease us Marly