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Yes, I am sure many of us who spend our days sleuthing the Janet Marie Christiansen murder remember you bringing up this subject in the past, so I feel that it did not bear repeating the day before a major holiday, IMO.

I see nothing wrong with adoption in most cases, but each case is different. I guess I just don't see it in the same light as you do, and perhaps you have your reasons for thinking this way and they are noble.

Adoption is a beautiful thing, but in this case, I think the family and Kaiden would suffer more so, and this family needs each other. The Christiansens are a good family and a loving family. I think it would be devastating to the Christiansens and to Kaiden not to be able to spend time together.

I'm sure you didn't mean to be insensitive, but I guess, at this time, many of us are just a touch sensitive about this case, as we spend hours upon hours, going over it, and this case is personal to many of us.
 
If there is a murderer reading here:
How is your holiday going? Must be hard to have your celebration tempered by the need to watch what you say to people. Not able to completely relax and talk openly about what you are thinking and feeling. People would not understand, would they? Watch your drinking, as that tends to make you incautious. We wouldn't want you to slip and say something incriminating, LOL. Will you think of her on Christmas Day? When you take a big bite of Christmas dinner- will you miss something she usually cooked? What do you think she would have chosen to buy for Kaiden for this Christmas? He will never know will he? She would be showing quite a bit by now. Remember when she was pregnant with Kaiden? Remember all the planning and attention she gave to her pregnancy, and how much she looked forward to his birth? This was a different pregnancy, but still would have been something to look forward to.
Ahhh, the holidays. Time for families to come together, but there is an empty place at this holiday time. Will you think back to past Christmas's? Or will you be too busy expecting that knock on the door? LE works on Christmas you know. Maybe they are planning on timing the arrest- just as you are opening gifts. Merry Christmas, suprise!
How many more holidays do you think you will celebrate on the outside? Make the most of this one, it could be your last.
Did Kaiden ask Santa to bring his Mom home for Christmas? Many children do you know. Oh he is too young to do it this year, but I would almost bet you he will sometime in the future.
Tell me, when your family gets together, are they being just a little too careful around you? Looking at you too long, or maybe not long enough? Do they act a little strange around you now? Maybe conversations stop as you walk into the room? Does that make you uncomfortable? Do you feel that everything has changed since Janet's death?
One way to make that stop is to tell them what you did. Act like a real man, and take responsibility for your actions. It will be difficult, but you might as well get it over with. They will arrest you sooner or later, and I know the waiting is hard. You could beat them to it, and confess. That will make you look a little better. At least you can say, you want to take responsibility for what you did. You lose that chance if you wait until you are arrested. And you will be arrested eventually. You know that as well as I do.
Do it for yourself, do it for Kaiden, do it for your family, do it for Janet, but just get it over with. Face up to your actions, and make that feeling of having an axe hanging over head go away. That feeling of an impending doom is usually worse than actually facing what you did.
Take a deep breath, and just say it.
 
mysteriew said:
If there is a murderer reading here:
How is your holiday going? Must be hard to have your celebration tempered by the need to watch what you say to people. Not able to completely relax and talk openly about what you are thinking and feeling. People would not understand, would they? Watch your drinking, as that tends to make you incautious. We wouldn't want you to slip and say something incriminating, LOL. Will you think of her on Christmas Day? When you take a big bite of Christmas dinner- will you miss something she usually cooked? What do you think she would have chosen to buy for Kaiden for this Christmas? He will never know will he? She would be showing quite a bit by now. Remember when she was pregnant with Kaiden? Remember all the planning and attention she gave to her pregnancy, and how much she looked forward to his birth? This was a different pregnancy, but still would have been something to look forward to.
Ahhh, the holidays. Time for families to come together, but there is an empty place at this holiday time. Will you think back to past Christmas's? Or will you be too busy expecting that knock on the door? LE works on Christmas you know. Maybe they are planning on timing the arrest- just as you are opening gifts. Merry Christmas, suprise!
How many more holidays do you think you will celebrate on the outside? Make the most of this one, it could be your last.
Did Kaiden ask Santa to bring his Mom home for Christmas? Many children do you know. Oh he is too young to do it this year, but I would almost bet you he will sometime in the future.
Tell me, when your family gets together, are they being just a little too careful around you? Looking at you too long, or maybe not long enough? Do they act a little strange around you now? Maybe conversations stop as you walk into the room? Does that make you uncomfortable? Do you feel that everything has changed since Janet's death?
One way to make that stop is to tell them what you did. Act like a real man, and take responsibility for your actions. It will be difficult, but you might as well get it over with. They will arrest you sooner or later, and I know the waiting is hard. You could beat them to it, and confess. That will make you look a little better. At least you can say, you want to take responsibility for what you did. You lose that chance if you wait until you are arrested. And you will be arrested eventually. You know that as well as I do.
Do it for yourself, do it for Kaiden, do it for your family, do it for Janet, but just get it over with. Face up to your actions, and make that feeling of having an axe hanging over head go away. That feeling of an impending doom is usually worse than actually facing what you did.
Take a deep breath, and just say it.
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Great Post! Sociopaths don't confess unfortunately, this murderer don't care about Kaiden, don't care about his family, obviously didn't care about Janet or the baby she was carrying.

Life will go on as usual for this murderer, until the time of his arrest, and it will come.

Hopefully someone in the Murderer's family will tell Kaiden that his Mommy loved him.
 
The Raven,

Guess you really do suck as a Santa. The only thing Kaiden really needed for Christmas was his Mother and his brother or sister, which would be here soon, if not for you.

Are you happy? Is this what you were looking for on April 25, 2005 when you started your disgusting blog about your life without mentioning your wife or child. Is this what you were looking for on April 26, 2005, 8 months ago today, when you stabbed your wife and unborn child and killed them both?

You are a sorry excuse for a man, a husband, a father. Look in the mirror and what do you see? I see what you are Raven, a Murderer, a crappy excuse for a man, a human being and soon the Nation will know what you are and God knows what you are. A Murderer.

Enjoy your free time, because it won't be much longer.
 
terminatrixator said:
The Raven,

Guess you really do suck as a Santa. The only thing Kaiden really needed for Christmas was his Mother and his brother or sister, which would be here soon, if not for you.

Are you happy? Is this what you were looking for on April 25, 2005 when you started your disgusting blog about your life without mentioning your wife or child. Is this what you were looking for on April 26, 2005, 8 months ago today, when you stabbed your wife and unborn child and killed them both?

You are a sorry excuse for a man, a husband, a father. Look in the mirror and what do you see? I see what you are Raven, a Murderer, a crappy excuse for a man, a human being and soon the Nation will know what you are and God knows what you are. A Murderer.

Enjoy your free time, because it won't be much longer.
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Amen.
 
dear raven,

..whew...........you got through christmas, (without having a candy cane passed to you through the jailhouse bars).

..think you'll make it 'til new years ??

..do you jump and /or break out into a sweat every time the doorbell rings ? is it a holiday well-wisher ?? or--------is it LE ??!?

..it's been awhile------surely you know even die-hard family/friends will start turning on you now--------sure they stuck by you "in the beginning"-------but even they have been watching you since april, i rather doubt they like what they've seen---------have you seen them off in the corner whispering on the phone ? think they're talking to LE ?? discussing what a pathetic human being you are "amongst themselves"? probably one, or both..

..you do know that you can't keep up the charade forever right ?
..listen for the doorbell------------it WILL be LE one of these days------soon...........(oh, and 'happy holidays'.)
 
My prayer is that you will grow a conscience, Raven. You might be out of prison, hidden inside your circle of friends and family, but the true prison is found when you are alone with the truth.

:behindbar
 
Knock, knock.....better get the door.....I think LE is coming for you.
 
I've been waiting for months for Raven to speak out on this horrible tragedy. Especially since the day I found out he was reading at WS. Now after all this time and now that someone OTHER than Raven has gotten the ball rolling in starting a reward fund for information leading to an arrest in this case and The Rav finally speaks out. He says....


"Raven and Janet Abaroa were private people,

quoting JerseyGirl here because I could not say it any better than she already did on another thread! you go girl!


Raven, you laid your life out on the Internet every chance you got ... on Ravenstree, MySpace, Classmates, Friendster, AltaHigh-whatever it's called site, the VX boards, etc., etc., etc. You were never private ... it's just a convenient line for you to spew now when trying to minimize the effect that sites like this have had on the truth being discovered.

and now strangers speculate on the details of their lives and the killing on Web sites," he said. He recognizes that even strangers want to see justice for his wife,

Raven, please complete that sentence.... even strangers want to see justice for my wife and I haven't even picked up the phone to call the detective in charge of the case to ask about progress. I haven't continuously been contacting the media trying to keep the story alive in hopes that someone who knows something might come forward.

Raven what are you doing? Besides working at the bike shop, getting a place of your own, dating/not dating, going on weekend camping trips? I think those are all positive steps to getting on with your life. That's great. Do you pay attention to Kaiden? Do you take him to see his family? Do you let Janet's mother hold him and feel her beloved daughter in him? Do you rock him to sleep at night and tell him you love him? Do you think of Janet when you do?

but he also worries that people personify Janet as weak, as being helplessly victimized. "They should remember her as the strong woman she was," he said.

Well Rav, thanks to the WWW many of us have gotten to know Janet a little. This is not the only place that we talk to each other. This is not the only circle of concern for Janet on the internet. We have met and spoken to lots and lots of people who knew Janet and we have gotten to know her through them. We know Janet was not weak. It's obvious that she was very very strong. She put up with a lot from you over the years didn't she? It would take a strong woman to stand beside a man who has done the things that you've done to her. To take you back all those times would make her the epitome of a strong woman. It's her strength that is flowing through all of us to keep this case alive and keep the pressure on LE to find her baby's murderer. Janet still has a lot to say, and eventually she will get her day in court with or without your help you sob.

Here's a tip for the next time the press calls you to update you about your own wife's murder case..... try this line on for size.... see how you look..... "I want to say thank you to the Durham Police Department for their continued attention to my wife's murder investigation. I know in my heart they will catch the person responsible for brutally murdering my wife and unborn child and I will not rest until I have done everything in my power to help them find that person and bring him to justice"..... and Rav, don't forget to add the crocodile tears where appropriate.
 
L L & S said:
I've been waiting for months for Raven to speak out on this horrible tragedy. Especially since the day I found out he was reading at WS. Now after all this time and now that someone OTHER than Raven has gotten the ball rolling in starting a reward fund for information leading to an arrest in this case and The Rav finally speaks out. He says....


"Raven and Janet Abaroa were private people,

quoting JerseyGirl here because I could not say it any better than she already did on another thread! you go girl!


Raven, you laid your life out on the Internet every chance you got ... on Ravenstree, MySpace, Classmates, Friendster, AltaHigh-whatever it's called site, the VX boards, etc., etc., etc. You were never private ... it's just a convenient line for you to spew now when trying to minimize the effect that sites like this have had on the truth being discovered.

and now strangers speculate on the details of their lives and the killing on Web sites," he said. He recognizes that even strangers want to see justice for his wife,

Raven, please complete that sentence.... even strangers want to see justice for my wife and I haven't even picked up the phone to call the detective in charge of the case to ask about progress. I haven't continuously been contacting the media trying to keep the story alive in hopes that someone who knows something might come forward.

Raven what are you doing? Besides working at the bike shop, getting a place of your own, dating/not dating, going on weekend camping trips? I think those are all positive steps to getting on with your life. That's great. Do you pay attention to Kaiden? Do you take him to see his family? Do you let Janet's mother hold him and feel her beloved daughter in him? Do you rock him to sleep at night and tell him you love him? Do you think of Janet when you do?

but he also worries that people personify Janet as weak, as being helplessly victimized. "They should remember her as the strong woman she was," he said.

Well Rav, thanks to the WWW many of us have gotten to know Janet a little. This is not the only place that we talk to each other. This is not the only circle of concern for Janet on the internet. We have met and spoken to lots and lots of people who knew Janet and we have gotten to know her through them. We know Janet was not weak. It's obvious that she was very very strong. She put up with a lot from you over the years didn't she? It would take a strong woman to stand beside a man who has done the things that you've done to her. To take you back all those times would make her the epitome of a strong woman. It's her strength that is flowing through all of us to keep this case alive and keep the pressure on LE to find her baby's murderer. Janet still has a lot to say, and eventually she will get her day in court with or without your help you sob.

Here's a tip for the next time the press calls you to update you about your own wife's murder case..... try this line on for size.... see how you look..... "I want to say thank you to the Durham Police Department for their continued attention to my wife's murder investigation. I know in my heart they will catch the person responsible for brutally murdering my wife and unborn child and I will not rest until I have done everything in my power to help them find that person and bring him to justice"..... and Rav, don't forget to add the crocodile tears where appropriate.
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:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Thank you LL&S
 
L L & S said:
I've been waiting for months for Raven to speak out on this horrible tragedy. Especially since the day I found out he was reading at WS. Now after all this time and now that someone OTHER than Raven has gotten the ball rolling in starting a reward fund for information leading to an arrest in this case and The Rav finally speaks out. He says....


"Raven and Janet Abaroa were private people,

quoting JerseyGirl here because I could not say it any better than she already did on another thread! you go girl!


Raven, you laid your life out on the Internet every chance you got ... on Ravenstree, MySpace, Classmates, Friendster, AltaHigh-whatever it's called site, the VX boards, etc., etc., etc. You were never private ... it's just a convenient line for you to spew now when trying to minimize the effect that sites like this have had on the truth being discovered.

and now strangers speculate on the details of their lives and the killing on Web sites," he said. He recognizes that even strangers want to see justice for his wife,

Raven, please complete that sentence.... even strangers want to see justice for my wife and I haven't even picked up the phone to call the detective in charge of the case to ask about progress. I haven't continuously been contacting the media trying to keep the story alive in hopes that someone who knows something might come forward.

Raven what are you doing? Besides working at the bike shop, getting a place of your own, dating/not dating, going on weekend camping trips? I think those are all positive steps to getting on with your life. That's great. Do you pay attention to Kaiden? Do you take him to see his family? Do you let Janet's mother hold him and feel her beloved daughter in him? Do you rock him to sleep at night and tell him you love him? Do you think of Janet when you do?

but he also worries that people personify Janet as weak, as being helplessly victimized. "They should remember her as the strong woman she was," he said.

Well Rav, thanks to the WWW many of us have gotten to know Janet a little. This is not the only place that we talk to each other. This is not the only circle of concern for Janet on the internet. We have met and spoken to lots and lots of people who knew Janet and we have gotten to know her through them. We know Janet was not weak. It's obvious that she was very very strong. She put up with a lot from you over the years didn't she? It would take a strong woman to stand beside a man who has done the things that you've done to her. To take you back all those times would make her the epitome of a strong woman. It's her strength that is flowing through all of us to keep this case alive and keep the pressure on LE to find her baby's murderer. Janet still has a lot to say, and eventually she will get her day in court with or without your help you sob.

Here's a tip for the next time the press calls you to update you about your own wife's murder case..... try this line on for size.... see how you look..... "I want to say thank you to the Durham Police Department for their continued attention to my wife's murder investigation. I know in my heart they will catch the person responsible for brutally murdering my wife and unborn child and I will not rest until I have done everything in my power to help them find that person and bring him to justice"..... and Rav, don't forget to add the crocodile tears where appropriate.
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SOB!

Great Post LL & S
 
So Raven, how about cutting to the chase, and contacting Law Enforcement and finding out about the investigation of your Murdered Wife and Unborn child?

How about contacting Law Enforcement and making an appointment to take a Lie Detector test? Oh, I'm sorry, did your Attorney inform you not to do this? Does your attorney also believe you are a Stone Cold Murderer too? I bet he does and therefore would not want you take one.

Are you afraid to call Law Enforcement because you are afraid they can see right through you? You are transparent Raven, you committed a crime, now you need to face up to the reality of it.

Everyone knows it, your family, your friends, when they look at you, they are trying to catch you in lies, trying to catch you faking your SOBS.

Your teammates, your coworkers, are all having doubts about you now. Look at the way they look at you. They don't want you to catch them looking at you, because they probably worry, would he do it to me too, if he found out I knew the truth. Transparent Raven, that's what you are.
 
I started a new thread about the polygraph issue. Feel free to copy your posts over to there.

ETA: Actually, I'm going to remove my polygraph post from this thread altogether since it's over on the new polygraph thread.
 
Dear Raven,
I just wanted to let you know that your stupidity amuses me.

JF
 
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