Good point!But the missing men, since found and classified as accidental drownings, are not missing any organs?
I know, that's what I was thinking too. Do you think it's possible that maybe they were missing body parts, but the police aren't making that known? That would be the only way that this would make sense. I don't know... just another interesting theory to think about!
I know, that's what I was thinking too. Do you think it's possible that maybe they were missing body parts, but the police aren't making that known? That would be the only way that this would make sense. I don't know... just another interesting theory to think about!
FWIW, a few years ago, part of my children's band booster fund raiser activities was where the teens AND their parents worked at a local popular 'concert' venue. It was only opened during the late spring, summer, and early fall.
Part of our job was serving alcoholic drinks, ie beer, wine, margaritas and such. In order to 'sell alcohol,' we were required to take a short class given by the ABC board.
WE, individually would be held libel if we served a minor, not to mention the venue would loose their 'serving' license.
It was up to us, INDIVIDUALLY, to be sure that WE abided by the laws. IF we made a mistake, we could be taken away in handcuffs.
I don't know how other states handle it, but if this case were here, the bartender or server AND the bar or venue WOULD be held accountable.
They make laws for a reason
JMHO
fran
Body parts are missing and the police are covering it up??? I figured eventually the police would be blamed; maybe some sort of CIA testing game. But really; all these ideas are interesting; be it street gangs, weird sex fetish, college professors/employees, this one here and others, but do any of them really connect, feel right or have any motive? With fun college towns, lots of drinking and cold rivers; the only sensible answer is really that most of these are just unfortunate accidents. The real mystery might be the speed of hypothermia which can kill in minutes if the body temperature drops 10 degrees. And when a kid falls in and accidentally takes a big gulp; they might not ever surface again. Here's a capsule to show how quick a drowning can happen. Here's a 24 year Iraq war vet, a marine who falls off a bridge after a day of drinking in Wisconsin. An eyewitness sees him fall in and runs down to try to save him. He tries to swim but he's drunk and unfortunately goes under and dies. He tested triple the legal limit and the cold water and booze beat him. Also interesting is that he fell 30 feet but the autopsy showd no trauma or injury; so lots of these kids could have fallen a distance and been knocked out just a few seconds and never recovered:
http://footprintsattheriversedge.blogspot.com/2007/10/093007-christopher-melancon-24.html
Do you really think a fine of $8500 is a deterrent for a bar like that? It wasn't the first time and I'm sure it wasn't the last time.Well, you're right and Dapper Dog paid a hefty fine as they should have. When a young kid is so drunk he falls down in the bathroom; the bar has got to make sure he gets home okay; in this case a taxi should have been called. In New York it's also illegal for a person under 21 to drink alcohol unless they are at home and have parents consent. By breaking the law, it might neutralize the bar's responsible and a court might see this death as a shared responsibility. In question and important in New York state is weather the underage drinker presented false id.
Using your theory of drunk + thermal then would that mean I have to hypothicize that there are no young males in Vt., NH., Mass. and Ma. that drink to excess? They don't seem to have the problem of drunk young men voluntarily jumping into the frigid waters. And of course it doesn't explain the number who are voluntarily jumping in Ga., and their rivers are not usually determined to be frigid. Sudden snow in Ga.?
They don't seem to have the problem of drunk young men voluntarily jumping into the frigid waters. And of course it doesn't explain the number who are voluntarily jumping in Ga.,
Responding to the parts I bolded in the quote to Mysteriew.Please stop misquoting me. I only think a few of these are suicides; maybe 3. But I do think the issue of young men committing suicide at a rate 4 times higher than young women is relevant; not only because it might explan a few of these deaths; but in the bigger picture; it shows that young men and young women have different ways of dealing with their problems and coping with their problems. One of the differences might be that young men who have problems might turn to alcohol and/or drugs as a solution, while young women might find better ways to cope with their problems.
Responding to the parts I bolded the quote.
1. I do not any misquotes.
2.You cannot be serious.
Sadly ... there is a lot of similarities .... especially with the smiley face ... copy cat ... or gang signs ....
As far as I have discovered ... the police have not reported any missing body parts ... (good question earlier) as this could lead to "organ harvesting" for donations to patients in need ..... very lucrative business in the medical community ... in fact I believe there was an MD - in California I think ... charged with selling "deaceased body organs" to donor banks without deceased family consent ... and he was convicted.
My question would be ... and lead to ...our "war on terror" ... with no recent terror attacks on the USA .... could these deaths be connected to an underground terror network that is slowly and systematically creating fear across our college campus and nightspots?
I think there needs to be a NATIONAL database set up immediately to track any and all incidents that may be related ... late teen - young males found in or near waterways, pools, lakes, ocean, etc and share this information with all LE and police agencies.
Something is clearly happening here .... right before our eyes ...
Peace.
Peace.
Do you really think a fine of $8500 is a deterrent for a bar like that? It wasn't the first time and I'm sure it wasn't the last time.
I found this info from 1998...very interesting...
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/1998/06/07/1998-06-07_mystery_deaths_haunt_4_famil.html