ZaZara, I (of course) agree entirely in wishing Kim Wall had not been so brave on this occasion and I know you aren't blaming her. I don't think it's anti-feminist to suggest young women are vulnerable. And as this case and Helen Bailey's show, there are some horribly depraved people. But if you are brought up among good people you can't help being fundamentally trusting and if you want to be successful in life you sometimes have to 'feel the fear and do it anyway', to use the well-known mantra.
I look back nearly fifty years (yes, I'm ancient) to when I was a 22-year-old teacher in Nigeria during the Biafran war. I was late getting back for the start of term after travelling all vacation and I hitched a lift with a Nigerian army convoy going from south to north, which ended up taking two days. On my own. If I'd been found raped and murdered by the roadside there are many who'd have said 'She asked for it' and looking back I think I was foolhardy. But in fact, I was treated with great courtesy. I was lucky. I did all sorts of other mad things and I'm still here to tell the tale.
The fact is this case is utterly extraordinary. The man was well-known. He knew her boyfriend was waiting for her. It was an interview, Even if he was known to be short-fused, even if he was known to have some deviant sexual preferences - who would have said, don't go because you might get disgustingly and brutally murdered? Claustrophobia and fear of being trapped underwater seem more likely fears.
Now we know more about what was going on over the preceding days and months everything seems obvious.
I doubt if Kim Wall could have lived life for long on the assumption that it's a bad world, and Copenhagen would not have been the place to put her guard up. Unlike Helen Bailey, she was just doing her job, not sharing her life with him. If only...but it's too late.
You were right in your other post, we all need a break from this dreadful case.
Hi Moll, thank you for offering us this glimpse of your interesting life! Dear me, I am quite lost for words. But you survived and you survived that war as well. Goooood!
My thoughts were not about blame, or blaming Kim Wall. I was thinking more about trends, and generations, and movements. Or even waves, waves that pushed Kim Wall forward
to the point where she was no longer able to decline the invitation of PM.
I'm not done thinking yet. My idea is that it would haved been the proper thing to say
no thank you, to PM and stay at your own party and be the host for your guests who were invited by you.
Or say
no thank you, because of fear of submarines, there is wisdom in claustrophobia.
Unfortunately, the trend is to
overcome your fears,
don't hold yourself back,
push your boundaries and
live life to the max. For many women, feminism is pushing them even more.
And of course, when you are an aspiring young journalist, Work Is All.
Kim Wall took all the steps her generation considers positive.
I was reminded of something that SATA wrote a while ago:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...-10-Aug-2017-*Arrest*&p=14019837#post14019837
I actually think this interest in true crime to a degree teaches you what to look out for and what to avoid.
For instance, I never forget John Douglas´ (former FBI profiler) simple advice: Never get in the car, just don´t.
BBM
IMHO many trends that play a role in this case go against this simple advice. It seems to me that we in Western Europe put too much emphasis on trust and invite danger with open eyes, or get into that car with open eyes, as if we had forgotten the need to protect ourselves.
