for reference the "
details emerge casey/cindy fight" part i thread is located
here. Also worth noting per jbean's closing post on that thread that part i was closed due to some "personal attacks". Soo...hoping everyone can stay on their best behavior.
Maybe this'll be a short one, but, i thought it deserved a follow-up. Worked this out on the theories part 5 thread as it pertained to the tension between cindy & casey that may have been a key motivator for casey actions 6/16, and to begin a focused look at whether or not an overnight murder was plausible based on the information we have. Similar analysis done for the morning of 6/16 until casey left the house
here if interested, but, perhaps ot for "the fight" discussion on this thread.
The following will be a re-read for some that encountered it on the theories or 6/15 ping thread. I edited it a bit here and re-posted it so it could be snipped/parsed for detailed q&a.
sunday, 6/15/08
@ ~9:12am cindy and caylee left for mt. Dora (see conway toll 9:27am - 15 mins to toll from g&c's per google maps)
per e-pass records
here
@ ~9am casey left g&c's and arrived @ tony's ~9:15am.
@ ~2:48pm cindy & caylee returned home to hopespring. per e-pass records (and consistent w/ statements) (see matching conway toll @ 2:33pm + 15 mins to toll from g&c's per google maps).
@ 3:35pm cindy called casey's cell from the hopespring home phone. Casey let this call roll to vmail, and cindy left a 36 second vmail.
@ 3:45pm kyle called casey's cell phone and casey let this one roll to vmail also. At no time during this period did casey interact w/ her phone.
@ 5:06pm, w/o checking vmail, casey called g&c's hopespring home phone from her cell phone @ tony's apt. For a 3 minute conversation, or left a 3minute answering machine message.
...2 hours passed, w/ no activity on casey's cell...
@ 7:06pm casey began a text dialogue w/ tony while she was still near his apartment. The pings from this conversation indicate casey left tony's ~7:06pm.
@ 7:10pm casey already enroute & unprompted, called g&c's hopespring home phone for a 1 minute conversation or answering machine message.
@ 7:36pm
casey arrived @ g&c's hopespring home.
...between 7:06pm and 9:26pm casey was engaged in a continuous texting conversation w/ tony (and a little w/ amy). The single greatest lapse between their texts was 11minutes @ 8:56 w/ most of them in the 2 minute range.
@ 9:26pm a period of cell inactivity lasting 39 minutes began (inactivity period i) .
(imho, this seems to be a good candidate for "the fight")
@ 10:06pm casey ended the cell inactivity when she received a text from tony by placing a call to tony and talking w/ him for 10minutes
(imho, this also would seem to be indicative of the fight having just taken place)
@ 10:25pm the heavy texting between casey and tony resumed for the balance of the night...with a 40minute break @ 11pm. "
(inactivity period ii)
note: Whyamisointerested observed this second period of inactivity would've encompassed the time george likely returned home and perhaps casey spent a few minutes w/ him...being father's day... And apparently having not spent much time w/ him that day.
@ 11:44pm casey called tony for an 80-minute marathon phone call.
Some other things to consider...
- iirc, george was @ work 6/15pm...based on his work schedule he would've been gone or in the process of leaving about the time cindy & caylee returned to hopespring that afternoon.
- it has been speculated based on casey's photobucket activity timing (thanks jwg), as well as casey's cell call durations during this timeframe each day, caylee's naptime was typically 1-3pm. Since caylee was @ shirley's, etc. During her normal naptime, caylee likely fell asleep in her carseat on the ride back to hopespring (speculation).
- cindy did not fire off several calls to casey to come home. She simply left a vmail. Even when casey didn't respond there were no add'l calls from cindy. So, fwiw, it doesn't appear cindy was anxious/upset w/ casey about not coming home immediately @ this point.
- casey was casual about coming home. She may have seen the missed call# and known about being called from hopespring, but, she didn't check her vmail. She simply did her own thing for another couple of hours and called when she was on her way home.
- there appears to be an opportunity for cindy & caylee to have gone for a swim after arriving @ hopespring after caylee, perhaps, finished her nap. Recall they had eaten @ shirley's. Dunno if they needed to eat again.
- by 9:26pm a tired caylee should've already been in bed asleep. Iirc, c&g have indicated caylee typically co-slept w/ casey in her room. with george @ work still, and lee nowhere around, this would've given the rest of the house to cindy & casey to have it out. By this time in the evening it would also seem to be quiet enough in the neighborhood that a shouting match would've been overheard...esp. If they carried it out into the backyard.
- this scenario would have casey going into her bedroom (closing the door presumably) with caylee already asleep after "the fight" if it indeed occurred @ 9:26-10:06pm, perhaps coming out for some time w/ george after he came home from work. Cindy likely went to bed after a long day - having to goto work on monday morning.
hoping this paints a clearer picture of the day & the circumstances to support productive discussion regarding "the fight".
I could listen again next week to double check if I'm feeling better.
