Discuss August 3rd Jail Visit with George

[magic-cat]

What I find funny about this is her insistence and pressure that she must be out and home to assist any further in finding Caylee, and she keeps pouring it on throughout the entire visit...tears and get me out...more tears and I need to go home...more tears and I can do no more from here...

What is so funny is that on the 25th of July, 9 days before this visit, and on the 28th of July, 6 days before this visit, she was telling Lee and her parents how much she did not care about her own self and how she would sit there for as long as she had to and not to worry about her she would be fine and on and on she went about how she could tough it out because all she was worried about was CAYLEE...

She sure did a flip-flop on that tune didn't she? Changed her mind with the quickness...Must get out...Need out...Want out...Get me out...Please take me home...

I guess it became a little more about her in REALITY than the false words that she was spouting for the cameras previously. I guess in the end, the REALITY set in and she did not care that she was being videoed, she wanted OUT and she did not care who knew it...

Funny.:waitasec:

 

[magic-cat]

My first thought so far, GA needs to shut up. I understand what he's trying to do, but they need to let casey taaaaaaaaaaaaaalk.

o gawd, ya hear her "i want to help but i can't from where I am..." what a beat around the bush way of saying "get me out".

whoa whoa...
when GA asks if anyone's threaten casey or the family, she completely blows it off and gets around not answering.

Anytime she talks about caylee, it seems so cold and empty...like rehearsed words.

From this entire video, I take from it that as long as casey never admits she did anything to wrong caylee and stays on the side of loving caylee, the longer her family stays on her side. She wants everyone to still love her and accept her, by riding the coat tails of Caylee whom everyone loves and misses, she can continue to get that same love and support.

I agree 100%. They need to ask the tough questions and then sit there in utter silence and let her squirm with the answers...
Why did you have a babysitter when you did not work?
Where did you go when you were supposed to be working?
If there were a babysitter, how did you pay her and where did she REALLY live? What's the address?
Why is there no record of any communication between you and a Zenaida G. anywhere in all of your phone records?
Where the he double ll is CAYLEE?:furious::furious:

 

[seagull65]

I always thought so, too. I never understood why the police didn't just let her talk, talk, talk. Also the family. They seem accustomed to supplying all the talk for her and just letting her give yes and no answers, or no answers. I've wondered if maybe she has some actual disorder that they've been dealing with for years, I mean like maybe an actual inability to remain grounded in reality and speak directly about anything, so that they have to always supply most of the talk in this way, just trying to get yes and no answers. In that video from Caylee's 2nd birthday, did you notice how little Casey spoke? Hardly at all, everyone else supplies the talk in that video, too. Yet, Casey's friends say she never stopped talking. So I always wished the family and the police would simply let her talk, talk, talk. I kind of suspect the family know that if they let her talk very much she will reveal some kind of disorder or embarrass herself or them. JMO Or, that they are afraid of the possible answers, of course.

 

[seagull65]

I agree 100%. They need to ask the tough questions and then sit there in utter silence and let her squirm with the answers...
Why did you have a babysitter when you did not work?
Where did you go when you were supposed to be working?
If there were a babysitter, how did you pay her and where did she REALLY live? What's the address?
Why is there no record of any communication between you and a Zenaida G. anywhere in all of your phone records?
Where the he double ll is CAYLEE?:furious::furious:

If only they would do this.
And so many other questions.

 

[Friday]

I agree 100%. They need to ask the tough questions and then sit there in utter silence and let her squirm with the answers...
Why did you have a babysitter when you did not work?
Where did you go when you were supposed to be working?
If there were a babysitter, how did you pay her and where did she REALLY live? What's the address?
Why is there no record of any communication between you and a Zenaida G. anywhere in all of your phone records?
Where the he double ll is CAYLEE?:furious::furious:

Ooooh--I just thought of a GREAT question--one that doesn't give KC any reason to turn defensive or hostile, or to avoid answering on the grounds of "Caylee's safety."

Here it is from GA or CA: "Honey, we know Zanny kidnapped Caylee on June 16. And we know from Tony L and his roommates that you started staying overnight at Tony's beginning on June 10. And sweetheart, we know Caylee never spent the night at Tony's, because you've told us that and so did Tony and his roomates....

And so, darling, the question is: Where did Caylee spend the nights June 10-14 while you slept at Tony's?

If Casey replies: "She was with Zanny."

George says, "Okay, gorgeous, so where does Zanny live? Oh, and if you can't come up with a singe verifyable, legitimate address for Zanny right now, I'm going to turn into a man right before your eyes, walk out of here, and turn your mother and your world upside down. All I have to do is tell the truth."

Okay, I know--it's just a fantasy. :blowkiss:

 

[Broderick]

After watching the phone videos, I can clearly see that the media is totally inaccurate on MANY topics! And it depresses me to see that there is so much evil and negativity in the world...and that 90% of the public literally FEED on it! Sad. I am more convinced than ever that Caylee is alive. The media and forums talk about how KC has never shown any emotion...I saw plenty of emotion. They first said that she has never talked about Caylee, then decided to say that she talks about Caylee in past tense...not what I heard. Said she danced around and changed the subject when her parents brought up the conversation about LE thinking she did something to Caylee...I saw that the guards made her go back to her cell and were talking to her when CA made the statement. I know I'm going to be shot down for this post, I expect that, but I don't see a cold and calculating murderer when I watch those videos. I see an emotional, young mother that says numerous times that she misses her daughter and wants her back and that the focus should be on Caylee instead of her. I'm not giving up on little Caylee. No, I'm not related to her family, I just have a strong gut feeling that she is alive...have had from the beginning, although after listening to the media for several months, have questioned it. But after watching these videos, I give the media NO credibility! I pray to God that He brings Caylee back to her family and reveals the truth about her disappearance. Not one of us is perfect...let he without sin cast the first stone...how many stones have been cast since July 15? None of us know without a shadow of doubt that Caylee is dead. There could be other explanations of evidence found. There will be alot of money passed when Caylee is found...it is called "slander". I am truly disappointed and disgusted in the way the media has handled this entire story. Poor Caylee. MOO

I completely see these latest tapes opposite of you. I would have to be in bizarro world to see it your way. I can't comprehend twisting my mind into impossible contortions to have the same conclusion. I would have to exercise some serious mind aerobatics to attempt the convoluted thought process which determines that Casey for even one minute misses her daughter or remotely cares about her parents. It was quite evident she is a narcissistic sociopath by all accounts and these latest videos support that. Most of the case against Casey is HER OWN WORDS. She was out partying, stealing, buying sunglasses, beer, tattoos, and lingerie after her daughter went supposedly missing. Good grief.

How anyone can't recognize evil is beyond me, because I shuddered when I watched her effortless control and evasion techniques that were wholly selfish, and purely evil. What she did to her daughter is probably something I don't want to know; I don't think that little girl had a chance. This mother was gunning for her for a long time out of jealously, spite and resentment.

This little girl, Caylee, is no longer an Anthony family member because they have ALL discarded her without hesitation, yet her smile and her soul have fixated America. She is now America's girl. Like I said, I probably don't want to know exactly what harm Casey did to her. I hope and pray Caylee didn't suffer and didn't have to fight for her life against evil. That would be too hideous to imagine, but one I wouldn't be surprised about. Evil can do evil things, and in this case evil has heritage and lineage previous to America's girl brightening the world, sadly her time to brighten was too brief.

 

[debs]

The police let George and Cindy talk talk talk and what have we gleaned from that outpouring of verbage? Allowing Casey to talk talk talk would have resulted in the same, for they are of the same cloth. Just as Casey never asked questions on how things were going in the search for Caylee, so too have George and Cindy never asked LE how things are progressing.

The Anthony's will not hear anything other than their own story. Period.

 

[BetsyB]

After watching the phone videos, I can clearly see that the media is totally inaccurate on MANY topics! And it depresses me to see that there is so much evil and negativity in the world...and that 90% of the public literally FEED on it! Sad. I am more convinced than ever that Caylee is alive. The media and forums talk about how KC has never shown any emotion...I saw plenty of emotion. They first said that she has never talked about Caylee, then decided to say that she talks about Caylee in past tense...not what I heard. Said she danced around and changed the subject when her parents brought up the conversation about LE thinking she did something to Caylee...I saw that the guards made her go back to her cell and were talking to her when CA made the statement. I know I'm going to be shot down for this post, I expect that, but I don't see a cold and calculating murderer when I watch those videos. I see an emotional, young mother that says numerous times that she misses her daughter and wants her back and that the focus should be on Caylee instead of her. I'm not giving up on little Caylee. No, I'm not related to her family, I just have a strong gut feeling that she is alive...have had from the beginning, although after listening to the media for several months, have questioned it. But after watching these videos, I give the media NO credibility! I pray to God that He brings Caylee back to her family and reveals the truth about her disappearance. Not one of us is perfect...let he without sin cast the first stone...how many stones have been cast since July 15? None of us know without a shadow of doubt that Caylee is dead. There could be other explanations of evidence found. There will be alot of money passed when Caylee is found...it is called "slander". I am truly disappointed and disgusted in the way the media has handled this entire story. Poor Caylee. MOO

I will agree with you on the "Poor Caylee" front. On that, there is no dispute.

You've been hornswoggled by a sociopath. That's not unusual--she puts on a good enough act to have kept everyone in her circle fooled for years. That's what sociopaths do.

The whole story Casey weaves stretches credulity beyond the breaking point.

 

[RevCrim]

Just having a light bulb moment. JB keeps saying he will explain his theory in his opening statement. Since incest has been alluded to, and JB has stopped contact with KC and her family, is JB going to thrown GA and LA under the bus, and try for sympathy from the jury?
GA sure doesn't make himself look good on the videos with KC, as he seems to be constantly blaming himself. GA nor LA has come forward to deny accusations.
Suprisingly, neither has CA.

 

[madeleine]

Just having a light bulb moment. JB keeps saying he will explain his theory in his opening statement. Since incest has been alluded to, and JB has stopped contact with KC and her family, is JB going to thrown GA and LA under the bus, and try for sympathy from the jury?
GA sure doesn't make himself look good on the videos with KC, as he seems to be constantly blaming himself. GA nor LA has come forward to deny accusations.
Suprisingly, neither has CA.

He might (anything is possible when it comes to this case) but IMO he would be kidding himself.:chicken:

 

[Broderick]

Just having a light bulb moment. JB keeps saying he will explain his theory in his opening statement. Since incest has been alluded to, and JB has stopped contact with KC and her family, is JB going to thrown GA and LA under the bus, and try for sympathy from the jury?
GA sure doesn't make himself look good on the videos with KC, as he seems to be constantly blaming himself. GA nor LA has come forward to deny accusations.
Suprisingly, neither has CA.

That is what I have been thinking for some time. He says "we will understand" in his opening statement. There have been no denials from the family. I even chatted briefly on line with someone I believe was Cindy and she answered some questions. When pressed on these allegations she did not answer but took an aggressive approach of calling names without answering. Now, I asked a second time and got no response which leads me to two possibilities. Either she didn't think the question merited a response or she was unwilling to broach the subject. As GA says to Casey, if this continues on, more information will eventually come out and I took it as information regarding the family would be exposed. The second possibility is the obvious possibility. This is directly beholden to her defense and something the family is unwilling to touch upon until trial. I think the second possibility is more likely as more information comes to light, especially the allegations by third part interviews that Casey says abuse happened as early as middle school.

What does her best friend Annie have to say?

 

[coco puff]

After watching the phone videos, I can clearly see that the media is totally inaccurate on MANY topics! And it depresses me to see that there is so much evil and negativity in the world...and that 90% of the public literally FEED on it! Sad. I am more convinced than ever that Caylee is alive. The media and forums talk about how KC has never shown any emotion...I saw plenty of emotion. They first said that she has never talked about Caylee, then decided to say that she talks about Caylee in past tense...not what I heard. Said she danced around and changed the subject when her parents brought up the conversation about LE thinking she did something to Caylee...I saw that the guards made her go back to her cell and were talking to her when CA made the statement. I know I'm going to be shot down for this post, I expect that, but I don't see a cold and calculating murderer when I watch those videos. I see an emotional, young mother that says numerous times that she misses her daughter and wants her back and that the focus should be on Caylee instead of her. I'm not giving up on little Caylee. No, I'm not related to her family, I just have a strong gut feeling that she is alive...have had from the beginning, although after listening to the media for several months, have questioned it. But after watching these videos, I give the media NO credibility! I pray to God that He brings Caylee back to her family and reveals the truth about her disappearance. Not one of us is perfect...let he without sin cast the first stone...how many stones have been cast since July 15? None of us know without a shadow of doubt that Caylee is dead. There could be other explanations of evidence found. There will be alot of money passed when Caylee is found...it is called "slander". I am truly disappointed and disgusted in the way the media has handled this entire story. Poor Caylee. MOO

If you were in jail for Child Neglect and watching yourself being condemned on TV for not showing emotion and only being concerned for yourself, Of course you would start altering your actions and emotions to adapt to the situation. As far as stones being thrown, I will continue to judge her for her actions. If we are tolerant of this behavior, how many more children will “go missing”. She didn’t report her child missing for a month. She did not LOOK for her during that month. She LIED about where she was for a month.

She cannot account for her two year old child. There are not enough stones!

 

[PaperMoon]

I know. I agree so much with your post. KC has no questions at all for the others about the search for Caylee. That is the weirdest thing of all for me. Her lack of questions has always seemed to me to indicate either that she knows Caylee is dead, or that she knows or believes she is alive and relatively safe (i.e. with someone who is not dangerous). Either that or she just suffers from some mental problem and is not truly cognizant of the situation, or is just in deep denial or something. Of course knowing she is dead wouldn't necessarily mean that she harmed Caylee herself, it could potentially have been someone else, or could have been an accident.

For the most part that seems true to me too; but in the first video, July 25th at 9am (GA, CA & KC) at about 5:30 into it, KC herself brings up the sighting at the airport by WW on July 2nd. She's very interested in it, asks questions about it, and very involved when she states that she wants others besides the sheriff's department to investigate tips, particularly LA and her parents, as well as JB.

 

[butwhatif?]

WOW! This tape is a bombshell!!

People are talking about ga expressing his regrets about not being a better father, and using too much tough love etc.
First I'd like to point out that this shows that the relationship they had prior to june/july was not like what we see on these vids.(the sweetie, honey, I love you and miss you, blah blah blah)
but now for the bombshell part.....
When he's saying 'I just wish i coulda been a better dad. That i knew there were times you wanted to talk and I wish I had've just listened and things would be different....

HELLO!!!! Wouldnt you think kc's reponse would be ' you have always been a great dad, and whatever has happened between us, doesnt have anything to do with zanny taking that little girl'....

But she doesnt! Imo, its like shes saying ' dad, you did the right thing, mom did too, and lee. But I'm different from you guys. This happened despite your attempts to teach me to be a good person.'

Thats pretty darn close to an admission of guilt imo.

Now ,these regrets by various members of the family were brought up multiple times throughout these videos....and never once does she say ' C'mon dad even if we did all these things it wouldnt have stopped zanny from taking her'.
She says something like 'Its nobody's fault. All we can do is move on' (yeah- in ya dreams casey!)
..... And hang on, nobodys fault? Isnt it supposed to be ZANNYS fault?

And still on the topic of regrets.Why doesnt she mention a single one of hers? Thats what moms do. Thats what most would do anyway....
"Why did I trust her? why didnt I just stay home to look after caylee? why didnt I find out more about her babysitter ( I know the babysitter is non-existant, ok. LOL ). Why didnt I just use a day care centre? This is my fault. If I hadnt left her there, she'd still be with us"...

Thats what a normal person does. They naturally blame themselves. But here's kc saying it's nobodys fault!! (puts more weight into the theory it was an accident that she couldnt admit to).

Caylees gone, the A's parents are going down hill, the A's themselves have become so weak and frail. How many people have to die before she starts talking?
If she's not talking to 'protect' her family from the bad guys, then doesnt she see this is killing them, slowly but surely? A torture worse than any physical pain that the bad guys could dish out.

I wonder if shes thought about the fact that if they die she will have nobody left in this world to love her.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Excellent observations, bwi.

 

[listening-in]

butwhatif?:
"I wonder if shes thought about the fact that if they die she will have nobody left in this world to love her. "

IMO ..she is probably thinking that the house would be hers!
She did not have any respect for her parents and really just only thought/thinks about herself!

 

[tfrohning]

I don't because I think he is the most gifted liar in the bunch. Cindy and Casey are amateurs compared to him. He is honestly believable and sincere in his lies so much so that fact is indistinguishable from fiction as he talks.

I wouldn't feel sorry for GA, I used to. but the more i watch him over and over . I get a funny feeling in my belly (and it not butterflys more like bees)
I think this guy is the one that CA got her lying from. Let keep in mind he was the last one to see Cay. S:bangmethings that he done thru this case, he shoulda(don't know if that word) know better. Like the car when he drove it home and he know what it smell like. That when he should called the cops. His daugther and grand daughter were still missing at the time. I wouldn't been frantic even not being ex cop i would called the cop. IMO

 

[butwhatif?]

butwhatif?:
"I wonder if shes thought about the fact that if they die she will have nobody left in this world to love her. "


She did not have any respect for her parents and really just only thought/thinks about herself!

~ bolding is mine ~
I agree. I think the videos show that KC realised too late just how good she had it.
This girl loves to be loved and its a completely selfish thing. She needs validation to feel that she is special.She doesnt understand the concept of feeling good, for having done something for someone else.

So by doing this she's not only killing her family but hurting herself too, by taking away the only people that cared about her and who would give her that validation.

Maybe thats how you make a completely self absorbed person see the light? point out how it would be a loss to her, because she needs them. not because she cares how her actions have affected them...it about her.

 

[Apex-mom]

Ooooh--I just thought of a GREAT question--one that doesn't give KC any reason to turn defensive or hostile, or to avoid answering on the grounds of "Caylee's safety."

Here it is from GA or CA: "Honey, we know Zanny kidnapped Caylee on June 16. And we know from Tony L and his roommates that you started staying overnight at Tony's beginning on June 10. And sweetheart, we know Caylee never spent the night at Tony's, because you've told us that and so did Tony and his roomates....

And so, darling, the question is: Where did Caylee spend the nights June 10-14 while you slept at Tony's?

If Casey replies: "She was with Zanny."

George says, "Okay, gorgeous, so where does Zanny live? Oh, and if you can't come up with a singe verifyable, legitimate address for Zanny right now, I'm going to turn into a man right before your eyes, walk out of here, and turn your mother and your world upside down. All I have to do is tell the truth."

Okay, I know--it's just a fantasy. :blowkiss:

AMEN AMEN AMEN!
GREAT POST
Wish it was true too!!!
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[seagull65]

After watching the phone videos, I can clearly see that the media is totally inaccurate on MANY topics! And it depresses me to see that there is so much evil and negativity in the world...and that 90% of the public literally FEED on it! Sad. I am more convinced than ever that Caylee is alive. The media and forums talk about how KC has never shown any emotion...I saw plenty of emotion. They first said that she has never talked about Caylee, then decided to say that she talks about Caylee in past tense...not what I heard. Said she danced around and changed the subject when her parents brought up the conversation about LE thinking she did something to Caylee...I saw that the guards made her go back to her cell and were talking to her when CA made the statement. I know I'm going to be shot down for this post, I expect that, but I don't see a cold and calculating murderer when I watch those videos. I see an emotional, young mother that says numerous times that she misses her daughter and wants her back and that the focus should be on Caylee instead of her. I'm not giving up on little Caylee. No, I'm not related to her family, I just have a strong gut feeling that she is alive...have had from the beginning, although after listening to the media for several months, have questioned it. But after watching these videos, I give the media NO credibility! I pray to God that He brings Caylee back to her family and reveals the truth about her disappearance. Not one of us is perfect...let he without sin cast the first stone...how many stones have been cast since July 15? None of us know without a shadow of doubt that Caylee is dead. There could be other explanations of evidence found. There will be alot of money passed when Caylee is found...it is called "slander". I am truly disappointed and disgusted in the way the media has handled this entire story. Poor Caylee. MOO

thanks for your post, I have also been horrified by a lot of the things said about this case in the media, the incredibly harsh (possibly slanderous) attacks on people's character, etc, repeatedly on TV day in and day out for months. I've never seen anything quite like this before in other cases, even cases where there were bodies found, and a lot more hard evidence to link a suspect. In this case it's like it's been a free for all, like people feel they can just say anything they want, without caution or without thought that these are real people. What if they are innocent? I also think it's possible that Caylee is alive. If Caylee is deceased, I definitely think it could have been an accident or another perpetrator. I've never been fully convinced that Casey had any motive, as she could have easily left Caylee with her family at any time if she really just wanted to be free to party. Not that I can rule out the possibility of KC as perp, of course.
Surrounding the disappearance, Casey was living with and hanging out with so many people, their various roommates and friends coming and going, basically a lot of people in the picture. It doesn't appear so far that all of these people were even questioned by LE, much less forensics done in their homes/cars etc. Several of them were interviewed but not all (unless a handful of interviews are being kept under wraps). Ordinarily, if a young woman had been hanging around with even just one young man when her toddler went missing, police would immediately see him as a person of interest. In this case there are SO many young men (as well as female friends) Casey was around and who might potentially have been watching Caylee for Casey here or there or might have had access to Caylee. MOO P.S. I hope very much your gut feeling is right and Caylee will be returned home safely.