IndianSummer
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Can you please post a link? I haven't seen that yet. Thank you!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inting-Reeva-Steenkamp-premonition-death.html
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Can you please post a link? I haven't seen that yet. Thank you!
And OP must have been enraged when Dr Stipp came onto the scene and put a damper on his theatrics by removing his fingers and confirming Reeva was in fact dead. So much so that he had the absolute ****s to claim on the stand that Dr Stipp didn't know what he was doing.
UK - On 'Pick' (Freeview) channel 11 'Pistorius: The Full Story'
tonight 2300.00-00.
Thank you, brought me to tears.. This is the Oscar Show :sickening: Need to remember who this is all about, Reeva is no longer here to speak for herself..Another great article from the Guardian. Apologies if someone has linked to it before - I don't remember seeing it but these threads do zip along at quite a pace....
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/co...us-verdict-matters-reeva-steenkamp?CMP=twt_gu
The final paragraph sums up my view perfectly:
thank you, so:
he made one call to silverwoods security [no answer]
one call to 10111 [out of order?]
shots
second call to security [got through] - i assume then that this is the 3:15:51 call. not the first one.
you have dr stipp's phone records too?... knowing the time of the 10111 call [or the first call to security] would really pin down the shots time. or would there be no record of these calls?
Is it possible to get it into the hands of Nel as well?? I guess the NPA will pass it along to him, but how I wish that we had a directly line to Nel, or that he at least reads some of the posts here on WS!
I think he's just a darn good liar, using his past achievements and boyish looks ,and wearing a suit that's a bit big for him to appeal to the Judge's good nature,and repetitive references to his faith and god etc.....she even mentions about going to Church on Sundays. He even said after he was sworn in at the start of his Cross Exam with Nel that he would 'try to tell the truth' ,,,,,,,who the heck says that if they intended to tell the truth ? very very odd,and can't think for a minute that the Judge and Assessors didn't view that as a red flag from the outset.......very very odd. They liked Oscar, they had a paralympic medal winning Olympic Champion infront of them crying a wretching and saying he'd made a mistake, prays a lot and begging to be believed - they fell for it hook line and sinker. The Judge ignored or twisted all the damning evidence against Oscar as if some of it didn't exist - you couldn't have made it up.
Personally , I think that Judge was far too inexperienced to cope with such a high profile case.
03:15:51 is the time of the call to Security (I agree with Roux and Misipa, but I would, because it's in the telephone records)
Stipp says he calls Security after hearing the 2nd set of shots. This is what brings them to his house and ultimately he goes to OP's house, via the Security Gate (to check it's ok to go).
Nhlengethwa calls at 03:16:13 and 03:16:36.
Stipp hears no other sounds. Nhlengethwa hears no more sounds (and he lives next door!). Security hear no other sounds.
The only justification for putting the shots at 03:17 is Johnson's call time for which there is no independent telephone record. Just Johnson's say so. Oh, and Roux's. And, unfortunately, Nel's, who says "around 3:17".
Another great article from the Guardian. Apologies if someone has linked to it before - I don't remember seeing it but these threads do zip along at quite a pace....
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/co...us-verdict-matters-reeva-steenkamp?CMP=twt_gu
The final paragraph sums up my view perfectly:
Just started reading Lisa's verdict update
as usual an excellent read- passionate advocate for justice
http://juror13lw.wordpress.com/2014...rdict-reasonable/comment-page-1/#comment-1529
Just started reading Lisa's verdict update
as usual an excellent read- passionate advocate for justice
http://juror13lw.wordpress.com/2014...rdict-reasonable/comment-page-1/#comment-1529
A much worse mistake is in the state's HOA, where "millimeters" is written place of "milligrams" over and over. That is a conceptual mistake, not just a typo, and it's so glaring that it boggles the mind that no one on the PT caught it.On page 12 there is a typo: "cricket bat" is written as "cricket back". I wonder how many other mistakes are contained in this doc...:gaah:
I'm telling you. She screamed. He aimed.
Thanks for this.
From your link:
The pause after the first shot, allowing Reeva time to scream and Oscar to re-aim. This was a point that was substantiated by 4 pieces of evidence. First, Burgers testimony. She stated she clearly heard a pause after the first shot and before the remaining three shots. Second, bullet holes B, C and D are from a different angle than shot A. Oscar changed positions after shot A. Third, Mangenas ballistics evidence showed that in order for the bullets to hit Reeva on her body where they did, utilizing the trajectories of the holes in the door, there had to have been a period of time in which Reeva fell down after the first (hip) shot and when the second shot was fired that missed her. If she had not fallen down yet, that second shot would have hit her somewhere on her body. It did not. So some period of time, even if it was small, had to pass between shot A and shot B. A pause! Third, the blood spatter, brain matter and hair that were found on the toilet bowl lid proved that Reevas head was directly in front of the toilet when it was hit. In rapid succession, her head would not have been in that position. Judge Masipa is deliberately ignoring physical evidence here.
People, we really should have seen this coming - just look at this twitter feed dated 14 April 2014
https://twitter.com/OscarTrial199/status/455688115026685952
shortened with respect... cool to look some time back.
I remember Masipa saying: " I dont want to punish him twice" ( argument for not beeing an inmate at Weskopies)
So I wait for the one.