PrimeSuspect
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BIB.
But that was the prosecution's version, i.e., at the time OP fired the shots Reeva and OP were facing each in front of the toilet door arguing. However, it places the prosecution at serious odds with its own witnesses since neither Burger, Johnson or the Stipp's heard a male and female arguing just before or at the time of the shots but a woman's "petrified" and "terrified" screams rising in crescendo and/or gaining in intensity "as if in fear of her life".
So unless I'm missing something, afaics ear-witness and State versions are irreconcilable. For the State, an argument facing each other across the toilet door just before OP shoots her, while for its 4 star ear-witnesses we have Reeva, (presumably aware OP was about to shoot otherwise why would she scream "in fear of her life" or be "out of her mind with fear"), standing slap bang in front of the door (Mangena's testimony) screaming like a banshee predicting her own death just before and while OP shoots her without her taking even the most elementary self preservation measures, such as, using her telephone or opening the window to call for help or crouching down in the left corner where the wall could have afforded protection or in the right corner where the toilet could have served as a shield.
Sorry. but I can't buy either State or witnesses' versions since I consider Reeva was much more intelligent than either version would give her credit for.
Actually, I see it completely differently, with OP 'screaming' and 'yelling' while creeping down the corridor into the bathroom, "Reeva, call the police!" and shouting, "Get the **** out of my house! Get the **** out of my house!" This went on for 15 minutes??!!!! Plenty of time for Reeva to make 20 calls to emergency.
Why didn't Reeva call the police? OP demanded that she call the police. OP obviously is right in the bathroom going to tackle an intruder, no less with a gun which Reeva knew he possessed for such occasions, and Reeva just stands and faces the door?!! If OP is kicking at the door or hitting it, my word she would be scared and screaming. Reeva was acting true to form, it was OP who wasn't, but again, he didn't because it never happened that way.
She was listening/talking to OP because HE WAS THREATENING HER LIFE! She had to TALK to HIM! She had to defuse the situation, she had obviously offended him, stood her ground with him before she fled to the toilet. She was now PETRIFIED of him! She didn't know to what extent he would go, how could she? Why can't a person argue, ask to leave, whatever, without the other person going ape **** and threatening to kill them?
We've heard all about the 'fight, flight and freeze' response, which is BS when it comes to OP, it was Reeva who had the flight and freeze response, if we are going to go there. jmo
And your very last sentence, I have to ask, have you read or seen any of the interviews with June and Barry Steenkamp? It's quite apparent that you haven't because they've described what kind of person Reeva was, she stood her ground, argued her point of view, she would have fled when threatened and most definitely would have screamed. My youngest daughter is a screamer, when she sees a spider or gets a fright, she screams and she's 23 yrs old. lol
Why is the victim's intelligence questioned when it's OP who acted stupidly and without cause or reason, because it's irrelevant, it's all made up, he's no fool and neither was Reeva.
We've gone through this so many times, lol, but why didn't OP check Reeva was safe in the bedroom before he took after an intruder? Why didn't he wait for a response from her when he said, call the police the first time? Why was OP so scared when he has never been in that position before? Yes, he's been after noises before, so have I, why suddenly on Valentine's Day did he think his life was under threat and he needed to shoot 4 bullets into the toilet door? Why would the intruder come through the bathroom window, when the downstairs window is more accessible?
Why didn't Reeva speak, not once, that she was in the toilet? There are too many questions imo, and no answers that make sense. :gaah:
I can't change your mind G.bng, you've made up yours, as have I.