Discussions on Formal Sentencing Hearing - Jodi Arias #2

[MeeBee]

Was it Falconer or was he removed before deliberations ? Thank you -

I don't even remember I just read about it but the foreman was removed for not deliberating and replaced with an alternate after deliberations had begun.

 

[elementary]

Argos: Do you happen to know - was she the one that held out for the decision today?

Husband: She was.

Argos: Did she tell you what the feeling was like inside of that jury room?
Husband: Yeah, she said she felt like she was being assaulted by all the other jurors ... trying to get her to go the other way. She held strong to her beliefs and I'm proud of her for that.

Argos: Is it a religious belief she had, or why?

Husband: No, it isn't. She's not opposed to the death penalty. She just didn't believe it was warranted here.

Argos: And she still sticks by her decision?

Husband: Absolutely, she does.



Read more: http://www.kpho.com/story/28274746/...lt-like-she-was-being-assaulted#ixzz3TYd349b2

Another 'victim'. Sigh. With hubby to whitewash things. Sigh.

 

[Amster]

And that's what she is. I saw pics of her face when JSS announced hung jury; she was not happy. And judging by her vulgar tweets she knows what the majority of the jurors think and it infuriates her. AND now she can't be 1 of only 4 women on DR! Nope no more special cornflake; just another lifer.

Special "cornflake"....:silly:......I'll never think of her any other way!

 

[TexMex]

Another 'victim'. Sigh. With hubby to whitewash things. Sigh.

It's all those other people! It's not my fault!

 

[MissHaley]

While no DP would be a disappointment anyway, if we didn't hear the 11 jurors speaking about what happened, then remembering what the last jury foreman said- for me, it just makes this sad story much more devastating...if jurors would truly been able to deliberate & come to honest decisions, even if it would have been no DP- it would be easier to accept this outcome. But jurors not honest, just wanting to be on a jury to hang it with an agenda? I don't know what to say.

 

[bznbear]

Turns out spa-time is good for the soul.

Yes, she deserved the DP and no she didn't get it, and yes the Alexanders didn't get the sentence they wanted. But it really is exquisitely perfect how it turned out.

If anyone thinks the DP meant different conditions at Perryville, you haven't read about the rules changing and how little different her day to day existence would have been in very short order, DP or LWOP. The genuine big difference is she is GONE. She will be without any outside support, ever, except for a mother 1,000 miles away and the inevitable groupies she would have had either way, and she's been robbed of the extra dozens of years she could pretend to herself she'd be free on appeal. The Slumber party book talks about how much difference it makes to be able to hold onto that hope.

Better yet, she's been robbed of any pretense she's a victim. The jury didn't believe she was a victim, and hated that she tried to victimize Travis in court. They dislike her so much they wanted her dead. They loved the prosecutor she hates, didn't believe ANY of the lies she manufactured, including *advertiser censored* on the computer. That is complete and total repudiation of HER.

The retrial revealed WAY more about her than the first. Everything she wanted to hide is out in the open. She didn't get the DP so she can't even play poster child DP victim.

And, the holdout juror has TAINTED the outcome, rightfully or not. Most folks will always believe that she should have received the DP and would have if......or, if....... That is a a hugely different and better outcome than last time, when some jurors DID believe she was abused, 8-4 thought she should be spared, and nobody questioned the legitimacy of the verdict.

I'm sure she knows she lost, and her last tweets are evidence that's so. I've been popping in and out reading the threads here and get that most folks here are angry and don't agree with what I'm saying. Hugs to you....I'm totally at peace with the outcome and ready to let go of all things JA.

PS- warning about the May 26th text. It will likely make you sad to read it. MF didn't make up her story whole cloth about Travis feeling suicidal. She twisted the truth, and she sure did lie 100% about JA being suicidal, but Travis was a deeply unhappy man in late May. JA deserved every last word he said to her on May 26, but it is also the case that he was blaming her for his own inability to kick her out of his life completely, once and for all.

One part of Travis' legacy that I'm walking away with a powerful reminder of the necessity of setting absolute boundaries and that sometimes forgiveness needs to be earned.

Hope I truly (((heart))) you! This is your second post today that has outshined all the ugliness that is JA and the trial.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

I have a feeling we WILL hear from Juror #17 a LOT once things die down a little. I think we will see her and possibly her husband on tv quite a bit, especially on some of the news shows the Anthony's liked to go on. :wink: Just a feeling I have.

 

[TexMex]

Jurors thought it odd that the Arias family didn't get up and speak on Jodis behalf
They said most of them had children and would have begged for their lives

 

[Sulamith]

Well, hahaha, I'm gonna go and relax, before I really say what I am thinking about Juror #17's husband. He is the one doing the interviews and I have seen his ummm looks like booking photo and I know we aren't suppose to be sleuthing any of the jurors, their families and such. They are just another thread in this woven tapestry of a slaughter.

Sooo I don't get into trouble I am going to go have a beer, relax. Wait on the husband to get home.

Good Night Y'all~

Lots of booking photos on both sides of the fence. IMO, best to keep jurors, family members, on both sides, out of this case. MOO

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Turns out spa-time is good for the soul.

Yes, she deserved the DP and no she didn't get it, and yes the Alexanders didn't get the sentence they wanted. But it really is exquisitely perfect how it turned out.

If anyone thinks the DP meant different conditions at Perryville, you haven't read about the rules changing and how little different her day to day existence would have been in very short order, DP or LWOP. The genuine big difference is she is GONE. She will be without any outside support, ever, except for a mother 1,000 miles away and the inevitable groupies she would have had either way, and she's been robbed of the extra dozens of years she could pretend to herself she'd be free on appeal. The Slumber party book talks about how much difference it makes to be able to hold onto that hope.

Better yet, she's been robbed of any pretense she's a victim. The jury didn't believe she was a victim, and hated that she tried to victimize Travis in court. They dislike her so much they wanted her dead. They loved the prosecutor she hates, didn't believe ANY of the lies she manufactured, including *advertiser censored* on the computer. That is complete and total repudiation of HER.

The retrial revealed WAY more about her than the first. Everything she wanted to hide is out in the open. She didn't get the DP so she can't even play poster child DP victim.

And, the holdout juror has TAINTED the outcome, rightfully or not. Most folks will always believe that she should have received the DP and would have if......or, if....... That is a a hugely different and better outcome than last time, when some jurors DID believe she was abused, 8-4 thought she should be spared, and nobody questioned the legitimacy of the verdict.

I'm sure she knows she lost, and her last tweets are evidence that's so. I've been popping in and out reading the threads here and get that most folks here are angry and don't agree with what I'm saying. Hugs to you....I'm totally at peace with the outcome and ready to let go of all things JA.

PS- warning about the May 26th text. It will likely make you sad to read it. MF didn't make up her story whole cloth about Travis feeling suicidal. She twisted the truth, and she sure did lie 100% about JA being suicidal, but Travis was a deeply unhappy man in late May. JA deserved every last word he said to her on May 26, but it is also the case that he was blaming her for his own inability to kick her out of his life completely, once and for all.

One part of Travis' legacy that I'm walking away with a powerful reminder of the necessity of setting absolute boundaries and that sometimes forgiveness needs to be earned.

Wonderful post Hope, and I agree that forgiveness is not a given, a simple "sorry" doesn't cut it in "some" cases, and yes, I feel it does have to be earned. A simple "sorry" for me is reserved to minor incidents.

 

[MissHaley]

Now, MLDR is posting, gloating on the State vs. ja face book page!!!! They will never stop!!! OMG

 

[Shadowboy]

Forgive me as I quote "Slumber Party from Hell" again. It just comforts me to know what JA is in for. Here is a list of things the author dreamt of doing WIGO (when I get out). All these things, JA is done with forever...
Listen to the sound of silence
Hear the birds
Pet a cat
Walk a dog
Sit on a soft sofa with pillows
Drink a glass of fresh juice
Eat all the fruits and veggies I want
Wear a skirt
Soak in colors other than orange and grey
Use real toilet paper without worrying about running out
Wear perfume
Swim in a pool
Take a bubble bath
Shower in private
Use a telephone without restrictions
Listen to music without headphones
Go barefoot
Sleep on a real mattress
Have ice whenever I want
Drink from a real glass
Have conversation that doesn't involve prison
Eat with a proper knife and fork
Go to church and sit in the silence
Go to a flower shop and just inhale the scent
Make a great big salad
Drink a proper cup of tea from a china cup
Dance all by myself
Sing in the shower
Wear earrings
Go to a movie
Eat using a proper napkin
Sit under a tree
Take long walks I lovely places
Surf the net
Go to the Art Museum
Go to the Library
Wear contact lenses
Dress up
Feel pretty
Drink real milk
Eat yogurt and fresh fruit

BBM
Pet a cat (or squeeze it)
Walk a dog (or kick it)

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

 

[LambChop]

Mods>>> Any chance of having a thread to discuss what if anything the Alexander family should say at the sentencing? I hope they talk about Travis, how great he was, how many lives he touched, and how he'll be missed. And I hope they don't bother wasting one syllable on the convicted murderer. She has no human feelings so it's not like anything they say to her will make a difference anyway. jmt

Let's wait and see what comes out. Skye and Chris will be releasing their book, soon. I'm sure it is a tribute to Travis. After this trial someone needs to speak up for Travis so that would be an opportunity to those who will now come forward to discuss with the media what type of person he was.

 

[strawberry]

I have a feeling the juror won't "like" Nancy Grace much after tonight.

 

[kimi_SFC]

DVR is set for NG interview with Juror #4 interview (I believe I read that correctly as I'm behind - I'm hopping over from Thread #1)

I'll transcribe as soon as I return from picking my daughter up from basketball practice.

:grouphug:


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[elementary]

First off.. I think that Jodi should have LWOP to keep her out of society and assure us that she is gone. I am sorry, after listening to the jurors, that the hold-out refused to participate and explain herself. That was not fair to the other jurors, and it does seem hinky to me. And it should have been addressed by the judge when it was brought to her attention. What makes me equally sick though, is to hear the family wailing because all they want is Jodi's death. Jodi was convicted. Spending seven years wishing for someones death, and making it your mission seems pathological to me. I feel terribly for the loss of their brother, but no more or less than I do for anyone who has lost a loved one to murder...no matter HOW heinous the method was. This was the State of Arizona VS Jodi Arias. There are ALWAYS loved ones who are recognized as victims. The family needs to move on. Jodi will be out of their faces IF they choose. JMO

What makes me sick is that only someone who is rabidly anti-DP/ with a coal for a heart would come on this forum and happily state something so appalling and cruel. I weep for humanity.

 

[Amster]

Thanks again, Lyric for answering our questions. Someone posted on the State vs JA facebook page 'that supporter site' listed all 11 jurors names & addresses & are bashing them. I do not go to that site, so I didn't see it myself. Funny, makes one wonder just 'who' had a list of jurors names?

I imagine they have had this list from the start....and researched all the SM accounts. They hit pay dirt with stealth woman. I am pretty sure where they got the names from.....

 

[TrialWatcher]

Video of Juan Martinez answering questions at the Arias press conference - in case anyone missed it. :heartbeat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmqbCqkbbwg&feature=youtu.be&t=21m14s

Thanks for posting. The sense of respect the jury had for Juan Martinez matches that of his many supporters. The man is a modern day hero - a professional person doing an important job in his state. Thrown onto the world stage in front of international media, Juan didn't flinch. There is huge affection out there for him and Detective Flores. My admiration for this brilliant prosecutor is off the scale.

 

[SStarr33]

Any staff would be also be billed to the state. He had no private practice when this started.

Do you have a link to the breakdown of how much he billed for himself and how much for staff and his other overhead?

 

[Meemaw12]

Not much to say, but after hearing the 11 jurors speak about 17.

I am thinking it's a blessing 17 wasn't on the first jury, hell doubt she would have voted for M1.

Makes me sick.