Discussions on Formal Sentencing Hearing - Jodi Arias #8

[Gin]

She's a social worker more than a legal pro.

That said, as relates to immature, I present Exhibit A: Wilmott, Exhibit B: Nurmi

jmo--I think she did what worked for her. That doesn't really relate to her job title, it's more a character driven decision.

 

[FinallyRegistered]

MDLR just called Troy ... how fun.

 

[ShadyLady]

MDLR just called Troy ... how fun.

no way....link?

 

[Tiki]

Maybe this was discovered when CMJA was caught telling someone on video chat how to put money in the "trust" so the Alexanders couldn't get it. :thinking:

 

[geevee]

Troy Haden Live breaking news: MDLR called Troy, she said 'on the record' denying she has any account or handled any money at all, has not been subpoenaed and shut down Twitter account because she was getting a lot of hate. JA didn't have a break down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWkbFFQHb60

 

[Martha Morris]

MDLR wants a few things put on the record.

She is denying that she has any account for Jodi Arias. She is denying that she has handled any money at all for Jodi Arias. She hasn't been subpoeneed and neither has her twitter account. Maria is the only person who is in contact with JA in prison and she says that JA has had no meltdown - Reports are false.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I agree with a judge giving the sentence. It's pretty clear to me the typical layperson doesn't really understand aggravators vs mitigators and how to weigh them, evidence, hearsay, and what should or shouldn't be considered when deliberating. I was appalled to learn the DT could pretty much accuse the victim of atrocious conduct without any corroboration; that it's up to the jury to decide what's real or not. I'm sorry, that just doesn't equal justice to me, and it's evident I know very little about the law.

I don't judge juror's abilities by other cases that ended up with most of us scratching our head during the guilt phase or sentencing phase. Cases like this really are anomalies and rarely happen in our justice system.

In fact I found the 11 jurors to be filled with intelligence and common sense. They certainly did seem to know exactly what was expected of them and knew how to follow the law.

They also knew the difference in mitigating factors vs. aggravating factors. They also knew the mitigating factors had to substantially outweigh the aggravators and knew they did not.

Countless jurors all across America sit in judgment on death penalty case and 99% of the time they come to the correct and just verdict.

It will never be decided by a sole Judge. The USSC has long ruled no one can be given death by only a presiding Judge and it must only come from a jury of their peers. I don't see that ever changing and really there isn't any need to change it. What does need to change though is the majority vote should rule like it is in the state of Florida.

Also what does need to happen in death penalty cases is each juror needs to be thoroughly vetted to see if they are being totally honest and forthright. That is the only way to insure another #17 type juror is not on a death penalty case.

I do think this fiasco will change the way jurors are picked in the future and now the state will make sure that all social media sites are checked thoroughly, not only at the first of jury selection but throughout the trial. And if one of the jurors has a family member who is a felon they will have to explain in great detail all of the particulars from beginning to end of their criminal history without purposeful omissions and those facts will be verified by the court to see if they are true and will verify who the prosecutor was on the case(s).

As far as the DT and what they got away with............I think that too is an anomaly pertaining to this case only and wouldn't happen in any other courtroom by another presiding Judge. KN et al produced the worst case of nothing but victim blaming and JSS allowed it all in.

IMO

 

[AZlawyer]

JMO-Wonder if #1 on MDLR's Wednesday to do list is retain an attorney?

Not it.

Well this is interesting.
Would love to know if anyone knows what the minute entries of 3/4/15 are? (Tell me they are re J17!)

So, several screenshots sealed but the STATE filed a motion to RECONSIDER a prior STATE motion to STRIKE?! Strike what - Juror 17?
So, who can tell me where those minutes are - I bet they tell us something about what this might all be about!

OH AND LOOKS LIKE TRAVIS' ELEPHANT JUST SAT ON A FEW PEOPLE~~~ YIPPIEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

Although the docket dates are 3/17/15, the filing dates are all back on 3/4/15 (pre-verdict). What they are about IMO are: (1) the defense objecting to the "impasse" instruction as coercing a DP verdict, (2) the State asking for reconsideration of its motion to strike juror 17, based on Flores's discovery of certain "likes" on her FB page, etc.

 

[Gin]

Troy Haden Live breaking news: MDLR called Troy, she said 'on the record' denying she has any account or handled any money at all, has not been subpoenaed and shut down Twitter account because she was getting a lot of hate. JA didn't have a break down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWkbFFQHb60

JMO-Well that was might nice of her to clear everything up for us. :floorlaugh:

 

[WhoaIsMe]

That was just for one account, Ben Ernst's PayPal account which had 17 transactions with an account owned by MDLR. The article says that there are 8 authorized signers on 14 accounts.

I'm wondering how do they know all this? A source in the inner circle gone traitor or in the courthouse?

If the source is at court then maybe Troy can find out specifics of what is happening.
I'd love to see a second outlet report this without linking to this one article. I've looked but so far coming up in the same loop.

I did see a link posted in a comment of Jeff Gold's feed saying that unless the income is over 10k taxes would not need to be filed. My guess is the IRS won't care unless it is a great deal more than that per year.
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[fillymj]

Troy Haden Live breaking news: MDLR called Troy, she said 'on the record' denying she has any account or handled any money at all, has not been subpoenaed and shut down Twitter account because she was getting a lot of hate. JA didn't have a break down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWkbFFQHb60

Maybe I am just old & out of it. Really sick of that word "hate" to get someone to back off when trying to find the truth. CMJA uses it, as do others. I don't "hate" anyone just their actions so if I call you out on it then I guess I am a "hater".

 

[Mrs G Norris]

MDLR just called Troy ... how fun.

FAR OUT .. I just turned it off because I couldn't take the blathering!!!

 

[krkrjx]

Well this is interesting.
Would love to know if anyone knows what the minute entries of 3/4/15 are? (Tell me they are re J17!)

So, several screenshots sealed but the STATE filed a motion to RECONSIDER a prior STATE motion to STRIKE?! Strike what - Juror 17?
So, who can tell me where those minutes are - I bet they tell us something about what this might all be about!

OH AND LOOKS LIKE TRAVIS' ELEPHANT JUST SAT ON A FEW PEOPLE~~~ YIPPIEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

IMO, yes, J17. I have seen reported that JM tried to strike J17 more than just once. IOW, not only during deliberations. And then with the problems during deliberations he asked for his motion to be reconsidered. I hope I have that right but be advised I may have misunderstood some of it--that's how I understood things went down, though.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Maybe I am just old & out of it. Really sick of that word "hate" to get someone to back off when trying to find the truth. CMJA uses it, as do others. I don't "hate" anyone just their actions so if I call you out on it then I guess I am a "hater".

I so hear this. If you don't agree with someone's choices you are a hater. If you don't like someone because they basically beheaded someone you are a hater.. Go figure..

 

[FelicityLemon]

Just skipping ahead (I'm still several pages back) to blurt out while watching Live that Troy Hayden is such a cutie! He's cute, funny and unpretentious. Hey, I can say these things because I'm a fat old married lady, lol!

What a cutie!

 

[Tiki]

Commenters on Troy's live show saying MDLR's twitter account was private so she could not have received threats. Is that right ???
IDK - don't do twitter

 

[Nancy_Drew]

Troy says if MDLR leaked jury information, that'll end her career .. 'Like THAT (snaps fingers)' .. this is a bit more information on the guy who runs JAII, the guy it appears MDLR is in bed with financially .. pretty huge mistake I would imagine: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1590769/Swedish-wealth-creator-from-Barnsley.html

Thanks MM for making me aware of this article

But online banking fraud wouldn't??!

 

[bznbear]

Please, why would MLDR, being a court officer, want to join the defendant's support site, join up with con-artists, get herself assigned as an admin for a financial acct., and hide money? What is the draw? Was MLDR aware they were scammers? Did she know them already to join them? Did the killer tell her to do that? I can't believe she would really think that was a 'duty' as a migration specialist? To tweet mean things, as well?

IF she's involved I'd guess there was a financial motive, but totes moo.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

Commenters on Troy's live show saying MDLR's twitter account was private so she could not have received threats. Is that right ???
IDK - don't do twitter

It was private. Idk if she could still see tweets directed to her though. My Twitter is basically a news feed so I'm not sure how that would work.

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[MsJosie]

I

14 bank accounts in total
8 people with signatory permissions
Monies transferred around between accounts (no idea what for).

Article mentioned $4,100 transferred (transfered to where wasn't said).

SJ and MDLR involved in financial stuff, the accounts.

Tax returns or tax records not found; means taxes weren't filed (allegedly)

501c status of JA's fund is being looked at/considered.

SJ is allegedly a scummy scammer with his own 'get rich quick' type Interwebs schemes, not related to JA

IP addresses being tracked. MDLR found out her IP addy was being tracked. MDLR deleted her Twitter account(s)

Someone or several someones in authority are looking into this. Who these authorities are wasn't said.

Everyone involved in "Jodi-Land" is being looked at. (Jodi-land is the nickname the author uses to describe everything in Jodi's world including various supporters).

Just thinking outside the box..we are all questioning how MDLR could be so stupid regarding the art and donations, yet her contract was extended until 2018. Could it be that the next story about to drop is that those twitter accounts did not belong to her? Someone that was involved with the money laundering and bank accounts was tweeting as MDLR? That, IMO, would be a bombshell.

MDLR contract could have been renewed to give her a false sense of "everything is okay, no one has caught on to what we are doing with the felons money". Her contract can always be withdrawn for illegal issues. IMO the contract was renewed so MDLR and other were not tipped off to what was about to happen.