Discussions on Formal Sentencing Hearing - Jodi Arias #9

[Val1]

And I think a lot of theory is from her ninja story, where she describes the gun going off but nothing coming out, when the male ninja pointed the gun at her head.

I read her letter to Travis' family last night and she goes into great detail of how the "NINJA'S" attacked... It was helpful in picturing how SHE carried out her attack.

Don't forget she probably incorporated some of TA's past experience into her "story". You can almost see the lightbulb moment during the video where he's relating his experience, after the blonde "it" sits up and stares at him as he's pointing his finger at his head.:/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aagtv5Vxn2A

 

[Nore]

Ms. Joni, yes. When she slit his throat she slashed his windpipe and vocal cords. Also his carotid artery, left side I believe. No one would live with all that. I don't have a link but this is all mentioned in trial , in length. Even with heart coroner said only a few seconds to live. Oh I hope someone gives her "what for" in prison. She is pure evil.

 

[Nancy_Drew]

Don't forget she probably incorporated some of TA's past experience into her "story". You can almost see the lightbulb moment during the video where he's relating his experience, after the blonde "it" sits up and stares at him as he's pointing his finger at his head.:/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aagtv5Vxn2A

Oh, yes...yes!! I totally forgot about that!!! Right!!!

 

[Nore]

Gunshot was last, bullet casing on top of blood verified it. She stabbed him, he fought back. He stood in front of the mirror to see what this #!&@%! had just done to him, probably in shock. After a second or two he started staggering towards the bathroom door to try and get away and go for help. She continues to stab, probably jumps on his back and wrestles him to the ground. I suspect as he was laying on the floor is when she slashed his throat. She drags him back into the shower stall and since he is still breathing, moving and mumbling, she delivers the gunshot as the final Coup de Gras.

It took a lot to kill him, and he fought back as best he could, what with the shock and blood loss and all.

I guess Jodi found out that killing a human is a lot more difficult than killing the family pet.

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May she find out for sure in prison!!

 

[geevee]

That is a good point- he would be distracted, focused on grabbing onto the shower edge to pull himself up from the sitting position, which would give her some access to start stabbing his body before he could reach up to protect himself.

I wonder how long it is from the last photo of him seated to the one where the camera drops... that little window of time is the moments her attack began.

edit- I just scrolled back to look at the shower pics- the last one of him sitting is at 5:30:30 and the next one, which is of the ceiling, is at 5:31:14 - so he went from sitting to the camera being dropped out her hands in 44 seconds.

I think the attack began as 5:30:30 was taken, you can see his arms lying over his knees but his feet/calves are in motion, if we could see his head we'd know which weapon she began with first.

 

[Nore]

Hi all. Just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention. I think it is great. As posted by Paul Sanders

"BALLOONS FOR TRAVIS Monday April 13, 2015 5:31 PM "
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I know I will be releasing Blue and Purple Balloons in honor of Travis Alexander!!!!

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Hi , Anyone near Cleveland Ohio, I will release a balloon or two on Monday April 13, at 5:30 pm. Lets all try.. Surronding
suburbs included. I'm in Parma.. hope to see more!! :balloons:

 

[Meemaw12]

@TingMingJie: #JodiArias is losing support left and right. The best part of our articles is the comments. Take a lOOk now! https://t.co/64qdAQ5xK1

Good article about ja supporters

Also talks about the recorded jail call, read the comments

I don't know the writer or named mentioned but perhaps some are seeing the light..

Imo


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[Val1]

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...w&hootPostID=4e444d60177b6444525598530a2a51f7

 

[MissHaley]

I think he was standing when she stabbed him. Maybe that caused him to slump down to the sitting position? I don't have all the answers but I do not believe she stabbed him while he was seated. I think he forced himself to get up and out of the shower to the sink and that is when I believe she started stabbing him in the back. I think he fell when trying to get away and that is when she slit his throat like "oh no you don't you are NOT getting away from ME!" But I could be totally wrong. There are only 2 people that know what happened and one of them is dead and the other is a liar. I would never believe her story no matter what. Because she always lies, just like Travis said.

Besides her lying, we need to remember that she made attempts to stage the scene. Trying to clean up, flooding the areas with water. Her main clean up is evident that she wanted their footprints not visible. For some reason, the footprints were more important for her to rid the scene of. The middle of the bathroom, Juan pointed out, had no blood as did the middle of the hallway. She drug him in that hallway & it was clean of blood, except the sides. Juan explained with the blood spatter expert, that even the hall walls had water on them. Testified that some blood was diluted. I imagine her throwing a bucket of water down the hall in a frenzy!
The sink was a mess & she didn't touch it. Another point is since it was clear she washed him off in the shower, there's no blood in the shower except underneath him. We can't know what stabs were done in the shower.
We do know that, even in shock & pain, he tried to get away from her!
IMO, she had the knife on her. She didn't run to get it. Since she slashed 3 sets of tires, 12 total! 2x's Travis, 1 Lisa, I can believe she always carried a knife with her. Especially that day.

 

[ISeeSociopaths]

Nobody in this forum has any idea how long they wrestled and grappled in that bathroom before Jodi finally got the upper hand.

3 minutes, 5 minutes, 10 minutes ??

27 stab wounds, some deep, some not so deep. We know he was up walking around for some period of time before collapsing. A slashed throat and a bullet in the side of his face. How long did all of that take ?

If I remember correctly....
It took about 2 minutes from last shower photo to the photo of ja's foot in forground and TA shoulder/back of head laying on the ground.
This has all been proven by looking at the time stamps on the photos.
I haven't looked at this evidence since the trial, so I don't have all my facts straight. My recollection is TA may or may not have been dead in the last photo mentioned, but he certainly was incapacited(IMO).

 

[MissHaley]

@TingMingJie: #JodiArias is losing support left and right. The best part of our articles is the comments. Take a lOOk now! https://t.co/64qdAQ5xK1

Good article about ja supporters

Also talks about the recorded jail call, read the comments

I don't know the writer or named mentioned but perhaps some are seeing the light..

Imo


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Ay, yi yi! These supporters really love to rant & blab on & on & on! Like the killer & DT, keep talking, saying things over & over- they will convince you by repetition. Meaningless words. Sheesh!

 

[Val1]

I am missing the circular mark. Would you mind describing the location. Thanks so much.

This shows pretty clearly that there were no marks on his neck/lower jaw area in the beginning of his shower, then there were just before that last face pic we've all seen.. and then post-mortem you can also clearly see the top round wound, it appears the lower one may not have made full contact for as long as it's not as visible in the post-mortem, though it's hard to tell with all the blood and slippage going on.


Here's a clip about the stun gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYNcbYVpEPU&feature=youtu.be

 

[MissHaley]

And now I have the question: "Why do the elder Arias' have a 9mm and matching silencer?" I get the gun, but a silencer? Uh, fishy. No legitimate need ever for a silencer - that's why they're illegal. Interesting. Was Bill charged, probably not, wonder why not.

yes, but not only that -she was in her parents home after the murder! Who can say that she just put the silencer back at their house after that time!? Just because it was 'found' there afterwards doesn't mean it was their the whole time! She's a thief, remember? She stole her whole life! IMO

 

[Meemaw12]

O/t

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[Nore]

Because Jodi said so............ ?!?!?

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If this attack had started with a gun, she would have filled Travis full of bullets while he was standing in the shower stall. It would have been clean, easy, and quick. She could've fired bullets out of that pistol as quickly as she could pull the trigger, and continued firing until the clip was empty.

That would have been the humane thing to do. But this is Jodi. Let's do it Azz-backwards and make it hurt a lot.

I wouldn't be surprised if she had to go running into his bedroom and get the pistol out of her suitcase while he was slumped over in the shower, barely clinging to life. He had to be dead, no turning back now.

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Hi , once she slit his throat he was gone. No breathing without a windpipe.

 

[Val1]

Hmmmm.. gunshot first, ya' say.... ?

Almost all pistols manufactured will hold at least six bullets. Automatic pistols hold way more than that.

If the shot came first, then why not another, then another, then another, then another, until he quit moving ? All that blood, stabbing and dragging could have been avoided. That's the way a professional would do it. Jodi isn't a professional.

Gun shot was last, he was so close to death anyway, it only took one shot to finish him off.

Didn't the evidence also show that there was little to no blood/bruising from the gun shot, attributed to it having been done either after death or seconds prior after he'd pretty much already bled out from all the other wounds, as opposed to having been the first wound?

 

[Nore]

No, it's a specific application for a specific type of gun. A .25 wouldn't had made that much noise anyway.

Silencer or suppressor is illegal, it would have had to be machined by someone who knew what they were doing. She must have had some good criminal contacts to secure a silencer.

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Hi. I dont remember ever hearing anything about a silencer during trial..only heard about gun.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Here's the first shower pic (no marks):

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Here's a cropped pic of him pulled from the shower (circular mark very visible):

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ETA: Adding 5:28:54 (circular neck mark):

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It's still shocking to look at the photos of what she did to his neck- and even more astounding that Juror 17 could look
at the same photo and feel that JA was not a monster.

 

[Val1]

The gun jammed which is why she didn't continue using it IIRC.

Perhaps it jammed on the first try and it was only after she'd done all the other damage that she unjammed it and shot him as her final fu, especially after he'd "hurt" her finger ... oh and to make it look like there was more than one assailant there for her backup ninja story.

 

[MissHaley]

Didn't the evidence also show that there was little to no blood/bruising from the gun shot, attributed to it having been done either after death or seconds prior after he'd pretty much already bled out from all the other wounds, as opposed to having been the first wound?

yes, Dr. Horn testified that there was little to no hemorrage to the head shot wound. Indicating to him that the heart was no longer beating, pumping blood.