DNA Doe Project - General Discussion #3

[djanga]

Huh, doe network had him has identified. Not sure why. Now we know DDP is working on him. Good. I’m sure they’ll be able to get this guy identified quickly.

Yes, I hope the DDP will soon add him to the website.
I also saw that they are supposedly working on Brooklyn Tracks John Doe 2023.

 

[djanga]

I created a thread here for Montreal River John Doe 2017 a few months ago. Last week a person who said he is his siblings posted that Montreal River John Doe 2017 has been identified with the assistance of the DDP. The Canadian LEs don’t always make official statements about identification, in any case I am glad Montreal River John Doe 2017 has been identified

 

[djanga]

New identification: Turkey Point John Doe 1998 found in Susquehanna River, located in Manor Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania identified as James Floyd Gibson.

Tooth, DNA ID Body Found In Susquehanna River As Man Missing 26 Years

A body found in the Susquehanna River has been identified as that of a missing Susquehanna Township man — 26 years later all thanks to one tooth, the Lancaster County Coroner's Office announced on Tuesday, July 2. James Floyd Gibson,…

dailyvoice.com

Cold case solved: Missing Harrisburg man identified as body pulled from Susquehanna River in 1998

The coroner's office has determined that James Gibson, reported missing on Feb. 4, 1998, was the identity of the body pulled from the Susquehanna River.

www.fox43.com

 

[Caring1]

New identification: Turkey Point John Doe 1998 found in Susquehanna River, located in Manor Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania identified as James Floyd Gibson.

Tooth, DNA ID Body Found In Susquehanna River As Man Missing 26 Years

A body found in the Susquehanna River has been identified as that of a missing Susquehanna Township man — 26 years later all thanks to one tooth, the Lancaster County Coroner's Office announced on Tuesday, July 2. James Floyd Gibson,…

dailyvoice.com

Cold case solved: Missing Harrisburg man identified as body pulled from Susquehanna River in 1998

The coroner's office has determined that James Gibson, reported missing on Feb. 4, 1998, was the identity of the body pulled from the Susquehanna River.

www.fox43.com

PA - PA - James Gibson, 39, Susquehanna Township, Feb 1998

James Gibson, 39, Susquehanna Township, missing since February 1998 Gibson was last seen wearing a dark blue or green and yellow Green Bay Packers baseball hat, a green jacket with zipper front, blue jeans. Missing persons: In Pennsylvania, how many are lost and from where? The National...

www.websleuths.com

 

[djanga]

https://www.facebook.com/100068121797204/posts/784903937123659

 

[iamshadow21]

https://www.facebook.com/100068121797204/posts/784903937123659

Interesting that the Doe had been labelled as white. Looks like that was way off. That wouldn't have helped with finding his ID.

 

[othram]

Interesting that the Doe had been labelled as white. Looks like that was way off. That wouldn't have helped with finding his ID.

Anthropological measures of ancestry are imprecise at best and sometimes flat out wrong. DNA testing is the only way to know for sure.

 

[iamshadow21]

Anthropological measures of ancestry are imprecise at best and sometimes flat out wrong. DNA testing is the only way to know for sure.

Yeah, I'm guessing they were relying on skull morphology. Even Bill Bass talked about how it can't be relied upon definitively when he wrote his first book.

MOO

 

[othram]

Yeah, I'm guessing they were relying on skull morphology. Even Bill Bass talked about how it can't be relied upon definitively when he wrote his first book.

MOO

Yes, we need to shift to genetic-based measures. The only thing worse than not having an answer is having the wrong answer.

 

[iamshadow21]

Yes, we need to shift to genetic-based measures. The only thing worse than not having an answer is having the wrong answer.

There are just too many cases where the age estimate is off, or the height estimate, or the racial background. Some remains are too partial or too damaged to even guess. Too many unidentified are some distance from where they were last known to be, creating jurisdictional blindness. And DNA can even help trans and gender diverse Does, where the pelvis or the chromosomes might tell you something, but the person's life was a different shape than a cisgender person's. DNA can't tell you what name they went by in their adult life, but it can tell you where they came from, which can lead to their chosen name and gender identity.

I just feel so strongly that it's the way to give so many people their names back, and give their loved ones answers.

MOO

 

[djanga]

19 Investigates exclusive: Unidentified victims of Cleveland’s ‘Torso Killer’ to be exhumed, tested for DNA

Over four years in the mid-to-late 1930s, someone murdered and dismembered more than a dozen people in Cleveland and dumped their bodies across the city’s east side.

www.cleveland19.com

In an exclusive interview with 19 Investigates, Dr. Thomas Gilson, Cuyahoga County’s Chief Medical Examiner, confirmed his office is teaming up with DNA Doe Project in a new effort to identify victims of the 1930s cold case murders

 

[djanga]

https://www.facebook.com/100068121797204/posts/789691899978196

 

[Grungster]

https://www.facebook.com/100068121797204/posts/789691899978196

Love Intermountain. Great lab and a great team.

The victims of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre didn't receive proper justice during the initial murders. Their killers were let off scot free. But today, their justice can be them receiving their names back...

 

[djanga]

One of the previously unidentified Tusla Race Massacre victims is now identified

https://www.facebook.com/100068121797204/posts/790121893268530