DNA Solves Cold Cases/Parabon Nanolabs & GED/Match.

[Legally Bland]

Hopefully I've got this right. Running total of convictions:

Guilty Pleas

,John D. Miller, for abducting, raping and killing 8-year-old April Tinsley in 1988

Raymond Charles Rowe, for the rape and murder of Christy Mirack, 25, 1992

Marlon Alexander for raping two elderly women, 2007 & 2011

Spencer Monnett, for rape, 2018


Convicted by a Jury

William Talbott for the murders if Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg

 

[jaejae]

Here is a recent article from the New York Times:

Genealogy Sites Have Helped Identify Suspects. Now They’ve Helped Convict One.

This may sound a little been contradictory but I can only be honest. I have spent years trying to get answers for victims relatively in cold cases to put it bluntly before they die. In my opinion the defence team did not do a good enough job for this man in this case and the science behind DNA genealogy needs to be directly challenged. In my opinion this mans legal team failed in their duty to present a robust defence for their client. It is my opinion they failed their client and did not do a good enough job. If any lawyers from genealogy cases read this board I would urge them to read this post. It needs to be a robust defence attacking the science behind DNA genealogy which I believe is flawed and the FBI know this and the lawyers in cases like the Alabama one need to be praised for doing a good job for client. This is my opinion:

Mr. Talbott’s lawyers said they viewed genetic genealogy as just another way of generating investigative leads. “Police have always used a variety of things to develop tips,” said Rachel Forde, a public defender, in an interview. The brother of one of the victims had even consulted a psychic at one point, she said.

 

[jaejae]

This article is related to the New York Times one I posted above:

'No Stopping Genetic Genealogy' After First Conviction | The Crime Report

Here is a quote from genealogist CeCe Moore:

“There is no stopping genetic genealogy now,” said CeCe Moore, a genetic genealogist whose work led to the arrest in a 1987 murder case, the New York Times reports.

“I think it will become a regular, accepted part of law enforcement investigations.”

 

[jaejae]

Here are details of rape cases which have been solved using DNA genealogy. Sacramento LE have also of course used DNA genealogy to identify suspects in the Golden State Killer and NorCal Rapist cases:

'John Doe DNA' from 1992 matched to California rape suspect

Here is a quote from the article:

Schubert called the use of investigative genetic genealogy "the latest and perhaps the greatest advancement to help law enforcement find the truth and solve violent crime," adding later that "the tools are there. We're going to use them."

 

[jaejae]

Here is another recent article about the use of DNA genealogy by LE:

DNA Being Used in Growing Number of Cases

 

[jaejae]

Here is another recent article about a case where DNA genetic genealogy was used:

Maryland man nabbed through DNA, genetic genealogy pleads guilty to murder | MyCentralOregon.com

 

[jaejae]

I hope people find this reports and videos interesting here is a video report from the 60 minutes team about the first conviction in a case where the suspect was identified through genetic DNA genealogy:

First conviction made using genetic genealogy

 

[jaejae]

Here is a recent article from the New York Times:

Genealogy Sites Have Helped Identify Suspects. Now They’ve Helped Convict One.

This may sound a little been contradictory but I can only be honest. I have spent years trying to get answers for victims relatively in cold cases to put it bluntly before they die. In my opinion the defence team did not do a good enough job for this man in this case and the science behind DNA genealogy needs to be directly challenged. In my opinion this mans legal team failed in their duty to present a robust defence for their client. It is my opinion they failed their client and did not do a good enough job. If any lawyers from genealogy cases read this board I would urge them to read this post. It needs to be a robust defence attacking the science behind DNA genealogy which I believe is flawed and the FBI know this and the lawyers in cases like the Alabama one need to be praised for doing a good job for client. This is my opinion:

Mr. Talbott’s lawyers said they viewed genetic genealogy as just another way of generating investigative leads. “Police have always used a variety of things to develop tips,” said Rachel Forde, a public defender, in an interview. The brother of one of the victims had even consulted a psychic at one point, she said.

Here is another article about this case and I am pleased that his lawyers are now taking his case up as an innocent man. As I say I am a supporter of LE and the police but I want to see the right offender caught and the right people pay for crimes. Others may think Mr Talbott is guilty but I do not and this is my opinion based on your first amendment as we near the 4th of July and also based on the fact I believe the suspect in the Golden State Killer case is also not the actual offender:

Relatives’ DNA in geneology database leads to murder conviction

Here is part of the article:

Forde did, however, tell CNET that the jury made a mistake by focusing on the DNA evidence, and that Talbott plans to appeal the conviction. From her emailed statement:

Every American should now be concerned that the mere presence of their DNA at a crime scene could now lead to a conviction for a crime they didn’t commit.



I believe the science in the DNA genealogy is flawed so the DNA of individuals is not actually at the crime scene although it is presented in this way by LE who again in my opinion do not understand the DNA genetic genealogy they are hastily using. As I have said I am very sorry for the victims relatives in this cases and others and I to would like them to get answers.

 

[jaejae]

Here is another interesting report about the cases in Sacramento being solved through DNA genetic genealogy:

DNA is Being Used to Crack Decades-Old Crimes in Growing Number of Cases

I am sorry I think this is a repost but I could not view the earlier one so it can be deleted probably.

 

[Niner]

Isn't it Great that they are solving all these cold cases with DNA genetic genealogy! I find it amazing!

I really don't know "why" you are against this type of DNA findings? I mean - they put the DNA in - get a family tree - Ms. Moore does a chart - they get DNA from a suspect - and if it matches DNA at the crime scene.... well who else could it be??

 

[wary]

Isn't it Great that they are solving all these cold cases with DNA genetic genealogy! I find it amazing!

I really don't know "why" you are against this type of DNA findings? I mean - they put the DNA in - get a family tree - Ms. Moore does a chart - they get DNA from a suspect - and if it matches DNA at the crime scene.... well who else could it be??

I know. I see genetic genealogy as being like any other tip or lead. Some tips don’t work out. So what? The actual direct DNA comparison is tried-and-true—accepted forensic science for close to 30 years.

 

[PaulaDC]

This guy has been living in my area hiding out.....until now.
Deltona man indicted in North Carolina cold case sexual assault

 

[ZaZara]

This guy has been living in my area hiding out.....until now.
Deltona man indicted in North Carolina cold case sexual assault

The link does not work for me, but I found another source that reports this:
COLD CASE BREAKTHROUGH: Testing of rape kit leads to DNA match, arrest in 1996 sexual assault

Soller's arrest was made possible through a DNA match after a statewide push by Stein to process backlogged rape kits.

"We know that DNA can breathe new life into cold cases," Stein said.

This rape kit was submitted for testing in October, and the results came back three weeks ago.

Police were able to find a DNA match because Soller had been arrested for assaulting a police officer in Florida.


BBM


No 'new' DNA methods were used like Parabon Nanolabs, but glad this person is off the street. And there will be more to come since they are testing backlogged rape kits. High time!

 

[jaejae]

Here is a recent video about the Washington case where a man was convicted through the use of genetic genealogy:

 

[AC4RD]

First, I very very strongly agree that the use of DNA in a number of different ways is an extremely valuable tool for law enforcement. I support its use wholeheartedly, when properly overseen and verified. But by itself, DNA technology isn't a "miracle cure," as this shows:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/special-reports/article10365422.htm

By the way, the attorney general of North Carolina in that particular link has been replaced by Josh Stein, mentioned in the link about the Soller arrest. This is just my opinion and I hope it's not out of line here, but everybody I know agrees with me that Stein has been a Lone Ranger style hero--he's really improved the DA system. IMHO only. Sorry if that's over the line.

 

[jaejae]

Here is a very interesting article I found at another site about the Washington State murder case where a man was convicted using genetic genealogy evidence:

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/jurors-share-why-they-found-talbott-guilty-of-double-murder/

 

[PommyMommy]

Here is a very interesting article I found at another site about the Washington State murder case where a man was convicted using genetic genealogy evidence:

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/jurors-share-why-they-found-talbott-guilty-of-double-murder/

WS Thread: VERDICT WATCH - WA - Jay Cook, 20, & Tanya Van Cuylenborg, 18, Skagit County, 24 Nov 1987

 

[jaejae]

Here is a Podcast featuring the owner of GEDMATCH Curtis Rogers being interviewed and of course his website as been responsible for identifying many suspects in serious crime cases including the Washington State case where a man was recently convicted:

https://extremegenes.com/2019/07/07...speople-discuss-new-york-legislative-victory/

 

[jaejae]

I do not think this has been posted before. Here is a report about the man who was arrested in Georgia and extradited to California for alleged rapes there. The report shows footage of his court appearance:

Suspected Sacramento Serial Rapist Mark Manteuffel To Appear Before Judge Friday

 

[jaejae]

Here is a Bloomberg report about Parabon NanoLabs with some interesting information about its investigative genetic genealogy department:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?