Evidence

[Valhall]

This is what I've pulled from the latest doc dump concerning FBI forensic test results. I'll try to go back over past discovery and see if I can fill in further gaps:

q1 - debris from front edge of trunk - no hairs exhibit decomp
q2 - debris from interior trunk floor - no hairs exhibit decomp
q3 - debris from right side interior fender well - no hairs exhibit decomp
q4 - debris from spare tire cover - no hairs exhibit decomp
q5 - debris from spare tire cover - no hairs exhibit decomp
q6 - debris from right side of trunk liner - no hairs exhibit decomp
q7 - debris from middle of the trunk liner - no hairs exhibit decomp
q8 - debris from left side of trunk liner - no hair present
q9 - debris from left side of trunk liner - no hair present
q10 - debris from left side of trunk liner
q11 - debris from left directional wire
q12 - hair from debris taken from left side of trunk liner - exhibits characteristics of decomp - similar to hair from q15
q12.1 - hair from specimen q12 debris from left side of trunk liner - DNA consistent with KC and Caylee
q13 - swab from spare tire cover - no blood detected
q14 - swab from spare tire cover - no blood detected
q15 - caylee's hairbrush (item k-3)
q16 - caylee's comb (item k-4)
q17 - caylee's thermometer (item k-5)
q18 - toothbrush from Anthony home - showed mixture with KC but Caylee was dominant DNA presence, used as baseline for Caylee's DNA
q19 - toothbrush from Anthony home - mixture and excluded as a source to be used for Caylee's DNA
q20 - toothbrush from Anthony home - mixture and excluded as a source to be used for Caylee's DNA
q21 - toothbrush from Anthony home - tested to be only DNA from KC
q22 - piece of spare tire cover (OCSO item #22, q-18) - no blood detected - amelogenin typing not achieved - no DNA detected - no hairs exhibit decomp - residues of chloroform present
q23 - spare tire cover (OCSO item #26, q-21) - no blood detected - amelogenin typing not achieved - no DNA detected - no trunk fibers - no hairs exhibit decomp - residues of chloroform present
q24 - left side of trunk liner (OCSO item #25, q-20) - no blood detected - amelogenin typing not achieved - no DNA detected - no trunk fibers - no hairs exhibit decomp - residues consistent with chloroform present
q25 - right side of trunk liner (OCSO item #24, q-19) - no blood detected - amelogenin typing not achieved - no DNA detected - no trunk fibers - no hairs exhibit decomp - residues consistent with chloroform present
q25.1 - debris from q25 - no hairs exhibit decomp
q26 - debris from trunk (OCSO item #1, q-14) - no hairs exhibit decomp
q27 - debris from inside trunk (OCSO item #3, q-15) - no hairs exhibit decomp
q28 - debris from trunk interior and fender well interior (OCSO item #6, q-17) - no trunk fibers - no hairs exhibit decomp
q29 - swab from BB's shovel handle - no blood detected - amelogenin typing achieved (shows to be male - below reportable limits) but also shows a mixture
q30 - swab from handle of shovel - no blood detected - amelogenin typing achieved (shows to be female) but did not meet reporting criteria, also one allele dectected (below reporting limits) common to KC and Caylee
q31 - swab from tip of shovel - no blood detected - amelogenin typing not achieved, no DNA detected
q32 - swab from tip of shovel - no blood detected - amelogenin typing not achieved, no DNA detected
q33 - pants (OCSO item #1, q-25) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q34 - pants (OCSO item #10, q-34) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q35 - pants (OCSO item #11, q-35) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q36 - skirt (OCSO item #2, q-26) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q37 - skirt (OCSO item #8, q-32) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q38 - skirt (OCSO item #9, q-33) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q39 - shirt (OCSO item #3, q-27) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q40 - shirt (OCSO item #4, q-28) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q41 - shirt (OCSO item #5, q-29) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q42 - shirt (OCSO item #6, q-30) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q43 - shirt (OCSO item #7, q-31) - no blood detected - no hairs exhibit decomp
q44 - piece of spare tire cover (OCSO item #2, q-16) - no blood detected - amelogenin typing not achieved - no DNA detected - no hairs exhibit decomp - residues of chloroform present
q45 - piece of spare tire cover (OCSO item #31, q-24) - no blood detected - amelogenin typing not achieved - no DNA detected - no hairs exhibit decomp - residues of chloroform present
q46 - BB's shovel (OCSO item #1, k-11) - no blood detected - no DNA detected - no latent prints of value
q46.1 - label from BB's shovel (OCSO item #1, k-11) - no blood detected - no latent prints of value
q46.2 - hair found on label from BB's shovel (OCSO item #1, k-11) - mtDNA differs from KC and Caylee
q47 - car seat (OCSO item #30, q-45) - no blood - no hairs exhibit decomp - no chloroform detected
q48 - steering wheel cover (OCSO item #6, q-41) - no blood - no hairs exhibit decomp - no chlorofrm detected
q49 - vacuum sweepings from driver side front (OCSO item #1, q-36) - no hairs exhibit decomp
q50 - vacuum sweepings from passenger side front (OCSO item #2, q-37) - no hairs exhibit decomp
q51 - vacuum sweepings from driver side rear (OCSO item #3, q-38) - no hairs exhibit decomp
q52 - vacuum sweepings from passenger side rear (OCSO item #4, q-39) - no hairs exhibit decomp
q53 - vacuum sweepings from rear dash area (OCSO item #5, q-40) - no hairs exhibit decomp
q54 - vacuum sweepings from spare tire wheel well (OCSO item #7, q-42) - no hairs exhibit decomp
q55 - debris from spare tire wheel well (OCSO item #8, q-43) - no blood - amelogenin typing not achieved - no DNA or STR obtained
q56 - swab from spare tire wheel well (OCSO item #9, q-44) - no blood - amelogenin typing achieved (shows to be female) but did not meet reporting criteria - no DNA or STR obtained
q58 - debris (OCSO item #H-60074, q-46) - no hairs exhibit decomp
Q59 - hair mass from crime scene - amelogenin typing not achieved - no DNA detected - no trunk fibers - mtDNA matches KC, therefore this is Caylee - exhibit decomp - same microscopic characteristics as q12.1 and from same source - textile fibers of various types and colors present
q59 - debris from trash bag (OCSO item #2a, q-47) - no hairs exhibit decomp
Q60 - debris from skull crime scene - no trunk fibers - no hairs dissimilar to q59 - textile fibers of various types and colors present
q60 - debris from trash bag (OCSO item #3a, q-48) - no hairs exhibit decomp
Q61 - tibia from crime scene - amelogenin typing achieved (shows female DNA) - STR shows that DNA is Caylee)
q61 - debris from paper towel (OCSO item #5a, q-49) - no hairs exhibit decomp
Q62 - tape from crime scene (9.75" length) - amelogenin typing achieved on non-adhesive side of tape (shows female DNA) - confirmed to be lab personnel - amelogenin typing not achievable on adhesive side of tape - no trunk fibers - does not originate from the same source as Q66 - Henkel branding - no stickers or sticker fragments present - no hairs dissimilar to q59 - no latent prints detected - textile fibers of various types and colors present
q62 - debris from paper towel (OCSO item #6b, q-50) - no hairs exhibit decomp
Q63 - tape from crime scene (7.25" length) - amelogenin typing achieved on non-adhesive side of tape (shows female DNA) - confirmed to be lab personnel - amelogenin typing not achievable on adhesive side of tape - no trunk fibers - does not originate from the same source as Q66 - no latent prints detected - Henkel branding - no stickers or sticker fragments present - no hairs dissimilar to q59 - textile fibers of various types and colors present
Q64 - tape from crime scene (8.75" length) - amelogenin typing achieved on non-adhesive side of tape (shows female DNA) - confirmed to be lab personnel - amelogenin typing not achievable on adhesive side of tape - no trunk fibers - does not originate from the same source as Q66 - no latent prints detected - comparable to q66 in all physical attributes and in chemical - no stickers or sticker fragments presentcomposition of backing and adhesive components - Henkel branding - no hairs dissimilar to q59 - textile fibers of various types and colors present
Q65 - gas can with tape (OCSO item #65, q-76)
Q66 - gas can with tape (OCSO item #65, q-76) - Henkel branding - no hairs detected - textile fibers of various types and colors present
Q67 - shop vac vacuum from home (OCSO item #35, q-71) - not examined
Q68 - steam cleaner from home (OCSO item #36, q-72) - not examined
Q69 - steam cleaner from home (OCSO item #38, q-74) - not examined
Q70 - vacuum cleaner from home (OCSO item #37, q-73) - not examined
Q71 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #26, q-69)
Q72 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #28, q-70)
Q73 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #28, q-70)
Q74 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #39, q-75)
Q75 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #66, q-77)
Q76 - debris from home (OCSO item #68, k-18)
Q77 - debris from home (OCSO item #68, k-18)
Q78 - debris from right humerus crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q79 - debris crime scene - no hair present
Q80 - shorts crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q81 - clothing crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q82 - blanket crime scene - no hair present - no tag, unable to determine if it is from set
Q83 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q84 - laundry bag crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers - same brand but differs in size and shape from the one taken from Anthony home (k33)
Q85 - plastic bag crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q86 - plastic bag crime scene - no hair present
Q87 - body bag crime scene - no hair present
Q88 - debris from bags crime scene - no hair present
Q89 - collection paper from drying cabinet crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q90 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q91 - piece of plastic crime scene - no hair present
Q92 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers - teddy bear pattern
Q93 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q94 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q95 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q96 - piece of plastic crime scene - no hair present
Q97 - piece of plastic crime scene - no hair present
Q98 - hair clip crime scene - no hair present
Q100 - piece of cardboard crime scene - no hair present
Q100.1 - heart sticker from Q100 crime scene - no hair present
Q101 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q102 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q103 - blanket crime scene - no hair present
Q104 - Tape crime scene crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q105 - Bag crime scene crime scene - no hair present
Q106 - Collection paper crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q107 - collection paper crime scene - hair found, dissimilar to Caylee or KC
Q108 - collection paper crime scene - no hair present
Q109 - collection paper crime scene - no hair present
Q111 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q112 - ballon crime scene - no hair present
Q113 - piece of plastic crime scene - no hair present
Q113.1 - piece of plastic crime scene - no hair present
Q114 - ???
Q242 - knife car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q243 - pull-up brand disposable pants car - similar in size and pattern to k13 and k14
Q244 - doll car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q245 - rug Anthony home
Q248 - Napkin car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q248.1 - napkin car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q248.2 - napkin car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q248.3 - napkin car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q248.4 - napkin car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q294 - piece of fabric from right scapula crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q295 - piece of plastic from laundry bag crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q296 - piece of plastic from laundry bag crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q309 - stone piece crime scene - no hair present
Q310 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q311 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q312 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q313 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q314 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q315 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q315.1 - piece of fabric crime scene - no hair present
Q316 - Piece of tape crime scene
Q317 - piece of tape crime scene
Q319 - debris from trash box car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q320 - debris from trash car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q321 - dryer sheet with debris car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q322 - debris from trash car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q323 - debris from back of pizza box car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q324 - debris from front of pizza box car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q325 - debris from back of pizza box car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q326 - debris from back of pizza box car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q327 - debris from inside pizza box car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q328 - debris from sprite can car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q329 - debris from coca cola can car - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q330 - debris from inside trunk - no hairs exhibit decomp present - no trunk fibers
Q331 - debris from spare tire cover - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q332 - debris from spare tire cover - no hairs exhibit decomp present - no trunk fibers
Q333 - debris from spare tire cover - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q334 - debris from spare tire cover - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q335 - debris from left side of trunk liner - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q336 - debris from left side of trunk liner - no hairs exhibit decomp present
Q337 - debris from right side of trunk liner - no hairs exhibit decomp present
k1 - buccal swab from KC
k2 - hair from KC
k3 - buccal swab from BB
k4 - ???
k5 - buccal sample from CA (OCSO item #2, k-13)
k7 - buccal sample from GA (OCSO item #5, k-15)
k9 - buccal sample from LA (OCSO item #2 of 3, k-17)
k10 - fingerprints from GA
k11 - fingerprints from CA
k12 - fingerprints from LA
k13 - three pull-up brand disposable pants Anthony home
k14 - package of pull-up brand disposable pants Anthony home
k33 - laundry bag

 

[Curious Me]

im sorry...im so far behind on the reading....but i found this...and was wondering if this has been talked about?

at the top of the page it says

*together read "BIG TROUBLE comes small"*
*Several items that appeared to be part of a child's pull up pants*

then it goes on to talk about the skull, duct tape...etc.....

then...

at the very bottom of the page after all the other stuff.....and a couple pics.....and then it goes on to talk about the southernmost outside shed and then you would have to continue onto the next page....but....it has a note at the bottom of the page
it says, with a black line above it...............

*NOTE: The word "packages" was found at the scene where the bags were recovered*.

does this mean that part of Caylee's shirt ( the iron on word "packages") was found inside the garage at the Anothonys house while they were searching and found the laundry bag and black plastic bag?

if this is true....that would link the crime scene to the house

i wasnt sure where to post this....i also posted in the shirt thread....

How strange. This would mean that part of the shirt was torn off at the Anthony's house, and the other part of the shirt Caylee was probably wearing. Am I understanding this right? Wow, that would definitely link it to the Anthony home possibly being the crime scene, as well. :waitasec:

 

[kew17]

im sorry....i gave the wrong link at first....working on two case at once...i changed it above
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21184243/detail.html

Hi There!
I don't believe this is the case. If you look at the very top of this document, right after "BIG TROUBLE comes small" there is a numeric one (1) which is denoting a note to be further explained at the bottom of the page. Then when you scroll to the bottom you see:

"NOTE: the word packages was found...."

All this does is further explain their note....I don't believe it to mean that part of the shirt was found at the home. It's merely a note reference.

 

[Imbackon]

I have a question I posted on a different thread, but alas it was ignored.
Maybe this is the correct thread.
Normally I hate to ask others for help to dig up anything I want to know about, but for the life of me, I cannot find this info.
Can someone please tell me, regarding the plastic bags from the fbi list, what plastic bag is the one that held the body. Was it q87?
And the big question is Has there been a comparision report of the bag the body was in against the plastic bags removed from the home?
Another question is is one of the bags that are from the home, the plastic bag that was found in the garage where it was inside something(can't remember what) and folks were thinking that for some reason this bag would be a better match to the one where the body was found. Remember this?

plastic bags from home
Q71 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #26, q-69)
Q72 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #28, q-70)
Q73 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #28, q-70)
Q74 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #39, q-75)
Q75 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #66, q-77)

Plastic bag from crime
Q85 - plastic bag crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q86 - plastic bag crime scene - no hair present
Q87 - body bag crime scene - no hair present
Obviously matching up the the bag at the crime scene with the home would be the cincher .

 

[strach304]

That laundry bag and blanket are going to be crucial questions that the prosecution will ask Cindy about.

 

[Tulessa]

BBM-
Number 8 is incorrect.The report says that something like adipocere was found on the paper towels, not that it was definately adipocere (aka gravewax).
There is nothing defintive that proves caylees decomp was on the paper towels, its just a conclusion that we all jumped to when we read the word adipocere and discovered it was associated with decomp.
It could have been any number of things on the paper towel, from soap, to make up etc.
(I'm going to add this in the myths thread).
PS: Its possible that it is caylees decomp, and is actually adipocere, but until they prove it, rather than saying it was 'like' adipocere, it should be taken with a grain of salt.
JMO

Ok, I went to an expert in his field. Hope this clears up some issues. Below is my questions I posed to him & his replies.



Tulessa said, on October 2, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Just a quick question. Can bacon grease be mistaken for grave wax? Say, wiped on a paper towel?

Reply
D.P. Lyle, MD said, on October 2, 2009 at 5:11 pm
It’s possible at least visually–particularly if it has been there a while and has dried to a denser consistency.

Reply
Tulessa said, on October 3, 2009 at 4:23 am
Ok, I should have been more clear on what I was asking. In a case in Florida, the FBI determined that Grave wax was found on some paper towels in the trunk of a car. Some people have said that it could be plain ole bacon grease. Is that so? Would the FBI not know the difference? Thanks hun!

D.P. Lyle, MD said, on October 3, 2009 at 6:07 am
Visually they might appear similar but the lab would have no trouble distinguishing one from the other.

http://writersforensicsblog.wo...d-decay/#comment-538

 

[noonie]

And the duct tape on the signs that G & C used will show ultimate deceit!!!!!!!!!!!!
God Bless Caylee . We are all here for HER!!!!!

 

[strach304]

Yep. They will ask George quite a bit about that duct tape. Cindy knows if she had more than one laundry bag and what kind it was. She already "slipped" and admitted the pooh blanket was missing. I can certainly see why the state doesn't want to charge with obstruction until after they testify.

 

[Valhall]

That laundry bag and blanket are going to be crucial questions that the prosecution will ask Cindy about.

Would like to point out that the latest FBI docs state that because the two laundry bags were dissimilar in size and shape no fiber analysis or comparison was done between them. They are only the same brand, not the exact laundry bag.

There was no analysis of the laundry bag in this dump. After I get my school work done today I plan on going back over all the old forensics released and seeing if I can fill some gaps.

 

[lin]

I have a question I posted on a different thread, but alas it was ignored.
Maybe this is the correct thread.
Normally I hate to ask others for help to dig up anything I want to know about, but for the life of me, I cannot find this info.
Can someone please tell me, regarding the plastic bags from the fbi list, what plastic bag is the one that held the body. Was it q87?
And the big question is Has there been a comparision report of the bag the body was in against the plastic bags removed from the home?
Another question is is one of the bags that are from the home, the plastic bag that was found in the garage where it was inside something(can't remember what) and folks were thinking that for some reason this bag would be a better match to the one where the body was found. Remember this?

plastic bags from home
Q71 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #26, q-69)
Q72 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #28, q-70)
Q73 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #28, q-70)
Q74 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #39, q-75)
Q75 - plastic bag from home (OCSO item #66, q-77)

Plastic bag from crime
Q85 - plastic bag crime scene - no hair present - no trunk fibers
Q86 - plastic bag crime scene - no hair present
Q87 - body bag crime scene - no hair present
Obviously matching up the the bag at the crime scene with the home would be the cincher .

Sorry I can't help with this one. Did you try the questions and answers thread? That thread seems to work well for getting answers to big and little questions, in my experience and view. Good luck!

 

[Imbackon]

Would like to point out that the latest FBI docs state that because the two laundry bags were dissimilar in size and shape no fiber analysis or comparison was done between them. They are only the same brand, not the exact laundry bag.

There was no analysis of the laundry bag in this dump. After I get my school work done today I plan on going back over all the old forensics released and seeing if I can fill some gaps.

Valhal, would you please see if you can see if in the forensics whether anything was written about this question.

"Has there been a comparision report of the bag the body was in against the plastic bags removed from the home?"

I don't think one has come out yet that addresses this otherwise it would be all over the place, but am holding out hope they can tie the bag to one of the Anthonys.

 

[Valhall]

Valhal, would you please see if you can see if in the forensics whether anything was written about this question.

"Has there been a comparision report of the bag the body was in against the plastic bags removed from the home?"

I don't think one has come out yet that addresses this otherwise it would be all over the place, but am holding out hope they can tie the bag to one of the Anthonys.

As far as I know, there has been no forensic report on the plastic bags, but I'll check back over older releases and see if I missed something (won't be the first or last time!)

 

[whiteangora]

Ok, I went to an expert in his field. Hope this clears up some issues. Below is my questions I posed to him & his replies.



Tulessa said, on October 2, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Just a quick question. Can bacon grease be mistaken for grave wax? Say, wiped on a paper towel?

Reply
D.P. Lyle, MD said, on October 2, 2009 at 5:11 pm
It’s possible at least visually–particularly if it has been there a while and has dried to a denser consistency.

Reply
Tulessa said, on October 3, 2009 at 4:23 am
Ok, I should have been more clear on what I was asking. In a case in Florida, the FBI determined that Grave wax was found on some paper towels in the trunk of a car. Some people have said that it could be plain ole bacon grease. Is that so? Would the FBI not know the difference? Thanks hun!

D.P. Lyle, MD said, on October 3, 2009 at 6:07 am
Visually they might appear similar but the lab would have no trouble distinguishing one from the other.

http://writersforensicsblog.wo...d-decay/#comment-538

Wasn't that a no brainer? Not being snarky, but, bacon is just Loaded with preservatives, nitrates, etc. Any processed meats could never be passed off as human anything.

 

[Imbackon]

As far as I know, there has been no forensic report on the plastic bags, but I'll check back over older releases and see if I missed something (won't be the first or last time!)

Valhal, I found the post from June where the plastic bags were discussed in detail (can't imagine what I was doing wrong that it eluded me).
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3916526&postcount=286"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Black plastic bag..in car & body found in[/ame]

Sadly it appears the bag was degraded too much to make a more definitive match than by just color and type.

 

[treeseeker]

Wasn't that a no brainer? Not being snarky, but, bacon is just Loaded with preservatives, nitrates, etc. Any processed meats could never be passed off as human anything.

I think I was one who compared adipocere to bacon grease, to give a visual idea of what it was when the information first came out.

Preservative and other further testing has probably been done, but I don't think we've seen those tests. We've only seen the VFA analysis, which determined the substance on the toweling could be pig or animal.

I don't think the presence of adipocere is consistent with 2 or so days in the trunk, based on what I've read, but I could well be wrong.

Link to some info about adipocere, pg 15 of 19:
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/forensicmedicine/notes/timedeath.pdf

 

[Tulessa]

Wasn't that a no brainer? Not being snarky, but, bacon is just Loaded with preservatives, nitrates, etc. Any processed meats could never be passed off as human anything.

Well, It was for me but apparently not to some lol.

 

[Valhall]

This post

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4241190&postcount=361"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Evidence[/ame]

has been updated to add further test results.

 

[Valhall]

Would like to add something that I noticed. Test results found that in the hair mass with the remains, on the skull, on all 3 pieces of duct tape found with remains and on the duct tape found on the gas cans the test results state that fibers of various types and colors are present. All evidence is preserved for further testing.

That's a potential common link between several key pieces of evidence.

 

[Balthazar]

...edited b me with respect

IF there were only "coffin fly" maggots on the paper towels and no blow-fly maggots, as Dr. Vass said, that is significant. It shows Caylee was probably put in the pontiac trunk alive.

Just putting Caylee into a trash bag would not have kept blow flies away.

http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=...Q&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=RPx1W2CaBN9s.2FiWa7ocA--

In one of the last motions from KC's defense, discovery from the entomologist was specifically requested. Could the entomologist hold the smoking gun that will prove aggravated child abuse and murder one?

I just wanted to say I think this is an excellent post and the type of information that would convince me of Casey's guilt of murder 1 if I were a juror.

 

[hotmomma35]

a lil off track, but does anyone have any idea if this trial will be on tv or the web . I have looked everwhere I can think of