Family battling Children’s Hospital to bring teen home for Christmas #2

[sweetmom]

I think Lou would like to get back to his career in finance, and probably will. I do believe that was difficult given the time in Boston and Washington advocating for his daughter. He also had to drive there every week to be able to see her 1 hour a week for a year and half.

I'm not so sure he wants to get back to his career in finance, which he managed to harm severely several years ago by accusing a big client of financial wrongdoing (this is reported in the detailed Globe story) and consequently losing the account and most of his income.

I am not sure if he was fired for making false accusations about the client.....I have googled this but cannot find the details. But I did check the FINRA site, an industry group that monitors the status of financial advisors and it says he is no longer registered as an advisor. The site also lists several cases in which Lou was challenged by clients, including one in which his company had to repay a client $30,000 because Lou made false representations.

In addition, according to town records in West Hartford going back years before Justina was diagnosed, the 11-room family homehas been in and out of foreclosure proceedings since at least 2008 and many local companies have liens against the Pelletiers for unpaid bills. Again, this all pre-dates the recent Justina expenses, most of which were covered by Mass. anyway.

IMO, not many people would want to let a man with such a checkered professional and financial past handle their money.

 

[sweetmom]

I think Lou would like to get back to his career in finance, and probably will. I do believe that was difficult given the time in Boston and Washington advocating for his daughter. He also had to drive there every week to be able to see her 1 hour a week for a year and half.

One more time: Lou would not have had to drive to Boston for a year and a half if he had simply accepted the spring 2013 plan to move Justina to a CT facility that is about 20 minutes from their home. He rejected that plan without researching the place and threatened to sue and/or picket other places offered ti to them. HIS OWN ACTIONS ARE WHAT KEPT JUSTINA IN BCH AND THEN WAYSIDE FOR SO LONG.

 

[Morag]

I think Lou would like to get back to his career in finance, and probably will. I do believe that was difficult given the time in Boston and Washington advocating for his daughter. He also had to drive there every week to be able to see her 1 hour a week for a year and half.

My husband and Lou are in the exact same field, both in Connecticut. My husband has been a registered investment advisor (and other titles) for 30 years. He has never had a complaint registered against him.
Moreover, we are frequently away on months' long vacations several times a year, and he is able to keep up with his clients and business via phone, fax, email, etc,. all perfectly legal and convenient for him as well as his clients.
Since Lou is no longer registered, it may take him a while to re-gain his certification, broker-dealer relationship, and oh, yes, get new clients. A man of his age will have to work very hard to rebuild his business relationships in this field. Good luck to him.

 

[jaunty-girl]

My husband and Lou are in the exact same field, both in Connecticut. My husband has been a registered investment advisor (and other titles) for 30 years. He has never had a complaint registered against him.
Moreover, we are frequently away on months' long vacations several times a year, and he is able to keep up with his clients and business via phone, fax, email, etc,. all perfectly legal and convenient for him as well as his clients.
Since Lou is no longer registered, it may take him a while to re-gain his certification, broker-dealer relationship, and oh, yes, get new clients. A man of his age will have to work very hard to rebuild his business relationships in this field. Good luck to him.

It seems pretty obvious to me that Lou is going to try to parlay his 15 minutes of fame (that he got on the back of his daughter) into some sort of political career. Something in the vein of Joe the Plumber. I had read up on his previous career and all the issues, much like sweetmom and figured that he had burned enough bridges that returning to that career is a lost cause.

I'm also not shocked in the least to find that someone so belligerent and antagonistic has so many complaints and issues in his personal life, outside of this situation with his daughter.

 

[i.b.nora]

Lou has said in several previous interviews i have heard that he does some kind consulting maybe for old people on medicare. He has also said that his daughter Jessica works with him. So, if you listen carefully, it is Huckabee that is saying that Lou hasn't been working, and NO ONE bothers to correct him. Just so utterly deceptive, ALL of them.

 

[gitana1]

BBM, Do you have any citation or evidence of this? Is this a fact or are you just opining that you believe this to be the case?

http://www.governing.com/topics/hea...ting-foster-care-children-human-services.html

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303442704579361333470749104

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...on-of-children-in-the-u-s-foster-care-system/

http://ideas.time.com/2011/12/02/bromides-are-no-better-than-zyprexa/

 

[jaunty-girl]

http://www.governing.com/topics/hea...ting-foster-care-children-human-services.html

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303442704579361333470749104

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...on-of-children-in-the-u-s-foster-care-system/

http://ideas.time.com/2011/12/02/bromides-are-no-better-than-zyprexa/

Thank you!

 

[gitana1]

I just learned the kid was released to her parents. I saw her interview with Huckabee. I think he was acting as a political shill in the interview, a bit. But the kid seemed reasonable, self-possessed, articulate and in full control of her faculties.

I'm glad she's out of the hospital, out of care and back with her family.

 

[txsvicki]

If Justina was in such horrible shape there's no way she'd be able to travel and appear on talk shows. I think she probably looks better because she was taken off lots of meds and started eating, and getting some physical activity, even if it was other people moving her legs and physical therapy. Also, I've not seen one word of anything she might have learned while away while " locked up " with kids who'd been sexually abused or self harmed like it was some hideous condition that was intolerable to be around. Sorry, but exaggerating symptoms is along the same lines as self harm.

 

[sweetmom]

Self-awareness does not seem to be the strong suit of this family, IMO.

But Justina does appear healthier, certainly better than at the time of the famous Midnight Ride through the bllzzard via ambulance. And for that, we are all grateful.

Some of us posting here have said very frankly that we do not like or trust or believe Lou, with good reason IMO, but we have no ill will whatsoever for poor Justina, who through no fault of her own is caught up in a terrible situation.

But whether she has the mind of a 5-year-old, as Lou says, or that of a confused 16-y.o., she is never going to go against what the family has been telling her to think and say, IMO.

 

[i.b.nora]

But, I have been wrong about other assumptions, so who knows? She has accompanied him on many of the vigils and such. They seem to hang out a lot together.

Anyhow, I found this interesting, from Huckabee's interview with the family.
Part Four at
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/huckabee/index.html#/v/3649413682001

APPROX: 2:27

LINDA: Well she is starting school next week. Starting very baby steps. It almost has to be backward baby steps. Only an hour every day, that's all she can do. And of course, constantly, like I think she has grown so much spiritually, right now, and I do thank Pat, Reverand Mahoney for all that. He's been so much part of our life, and you have been so supportive too, but, Pat Mahoney has talked to her many times and he has said he has never seen such a spiritual child.

APPROX: 3:07
HUCKABEE: You know I hope people will help you. If they will go to your website, the one that we talked about before, free justina dot com. Thank goodness you don't have to free her but they can still help her, save her.

LINDA: Save justina.

HUCKABEE: Yeah, they are going to change it to save justina but if they go to either one they will be able to help ...

LINDA; Because we have a lot of bills coming forward and now we found out we might not be able to use her GI doctor. She has neuropathy of the colon, she also had a massive stroke when she was younger, so there's alot of complications that she has in her medical so we don't know where the future is going to bring us. There's other hospitals that we might have to go to, pay out of pocket, things like that, so whatever anybody can do would be greatly appreciated.

 

[jjenny]

I think it's rather obvious why she won't be able to see Dr. Flores again. Parents most likely don't want to take her back to BCH.
Which makes perfect sense to me.
If BCH had my child removed, I wouldn't take her back there either.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Looking at the company page, it sounds like he sells insurance, maybe the daughter #2 helps him in some way such as keeping the home office tidy or something. I doubt that she is employed by the same company. But, I have been wrong about other assumptions, so who knows? She has accompanied him on many of the vigils and such. They seem to hang out a lot together.

Anyhow, I found this interesting, from Huckabee's interview with the family.
Part Four at
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/huckabee/index.html#/v/3649413682001

APPROX: 2:27

LINDA: Well she is starting school next week. Starting very baby steps. It almost has to be backward baby steps. Only an hour every day, that's all she can do. And of course, constantly, like I think she has grown so much spiritually, right now, and I do thank Pat, Reverand Mahoney for all that. He's been so much part of our life, and you have been so supportive too, but, Pat Mahoney has talked to her many times and he has said he has never seen such a spiritual child.

APPROX: 3:07
HUCKABEE: You know I hope people will help you. If they will go to your website, the one that we talked about before, free justina dot com. Thank goodness you don't have to free her but they can still help her, save her.

LINDA: Save justina.

HUCKABEE: Yeah, they are going to change it to save justina but if they go to either one they will be able to help ...

LINDA; Because we have a lot of bills coming forward and now we found out we might not be able to use her GI doctor. She has neuropathy of the colon, she also had a massive stroke when she was younger, so there's alot of complications that she has in her medical so we don't know where the future is going to bring us. There's other hospitals that we might have to go to, pay out of pocket, things like that, so whatever anybody can do would be greatly appreciated.

Watch Justina's face when her mother is saying :

"She has neuropathy of the colon, she also had a massive stroke when she was younger, so there's alot of complications that she has in her medical so we don't know where the future is going to bring us. There's other hospitals that we might have to go to, pay out of pocket, things like that, so whatever anybody can do would be greatly appreciate"

I really wish someone would ask her parents, "So, how long until she can ice skate again, now that she's FREE and back in your care???


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[sweetmom]

I think it's rather obvious why she won't be able to see Dr. Flores again. Parents most likely don't want to take her back to BCH.
Which makes perfect sense to me.
If BCH had my child removed, I wouldn't take her back there either.

I'm thinking it's even more obvious that Dr. Flores wants nothing more to do with this toxic family....and probably resented Dr. Korson for sending them to BCH, evidently without a heads-up to him, and IMO, also didn't want to continue treating Justina when she was admitted to BCH. I'm betting he was not kept from seeing her by BCH, instead, IMO, he chose not to see her and used the excuse of "the hospital won't let me."

 

[sweetmom]

Watch Justina's face when her mother is saying :

"She has neuropathy of the colon, she also had a massive stroke when she was younger, so there's alot of complications that she has in her medical so we don't know where the future is going to bring us. There's other hospitals that we might have to go to, pay out of pocket, things like that, so whatever anybody can do would be greatly appreciate"

I really wish someone would ask her parents, "So, how long until she can ice skate again, now that she's FREE and back in your care???


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If they really are that broke, perhaps they would qualify for Obamacare. But no, I am sure that Lou and his Liberty Counsel minions would not approve of any "librul" program like that.
Just my opinion.

 

[Linda7NJ]

If I were a doctor and saw that family coming...I'd run the other way...unless the child was actually literally in crisis so severe it was a life or death emergency.

IMO


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[jaunty-girl]

I think it's rather obvious why she won't be able to see Dr. Flores again. Parents most likely don't want to take her back to BCH.
Which makes perfect sense to me.
If BCH had my child removed, I wouldn't take her back there either.

I was being facetious.
"now we found out we might not be able to use her GI doctor."
Sounds like they were told no more Dr Flores vs, deciding no Dr Flores, to me. Or course that's just my humble opinion.

That these grown people can't understand that there are ramifications for bad behavior is unsettling. Running around calling people names and threatening people is not how rational humans behave. It's stunning how they seem genuinely confused when things don't just fall at their feet when they act so deplorably.

 

[lawstudent]

If they really are that broke, perhaps they would qualify for Obamacare. But no, I am sure that Lou and his Liberty Counsel minions would not approve of any "librul" program like that.
Just my opinion.

Obamacare isn't really for people with no money - Medicaid already takes care of that. But it sounds like not having insurance isn't really the issue - saying 'out of pocket' seems to mean they are planning on going to providers that don't accept whatever insurance they have, or have exceeded the limitation on the insurance. Given their history, I think it's safe to say they've probably made things as difficult for themselves as possible in this arena. At the same time, with all her health issues, finding places that accept a family's health insurance can be a total nightmare. More and more doctors prefer to reject insurance and only accept out of pocket payments if they live in an area where they can get enough people who can afford it and they are good enough to justify it. CT probably has a lot of that.

 

[Donjeta]

She says they "might" have to pay out of pocket. So it "might" be just a theory to get people to donate more.

If this child has issues with exaggerating her medical issues and being overly anxious about them like BCH thought, having a website in her name that calls for saving her isn't going to help, it's going to make it worse. Even if she hadn't got anxiety issues about her health before she might have them soon enough if this goes on.

Didn't the DCF reunification plan specify that Tufts coordinates her care in the future? So I think that's probably part of Y NO Dr. Flores. But talking about other hospitals sounds like they're not real happy with what Tufts are saying Justina needs either.

 

[annahanna]

Tufts and BCH work together all the time and generally they coordinate care very well. I think that the Pelletiers have probably already violated the agreed upon plan of care and have received notice from Dr Flores' office that they have a specified period of time to find a new doctor. In those situations, patients are usually given 30 days but since motility specialists are difficult to find and may take months to get in to see, they may have been given more time.