FL - 17 killed in Stoneman Douglas H.S. shooting, Parkland, 14 Feb 2018 #2 *Arrest*

[Ibiz]

Dear Ibiz!

No $!!

What do mean no? I thought of this idea when I saw the Columbine videos. With the tech we have today, we could build these cameras completely computerized with microprosesers and the whole nine yards. Fully controllably with high tech apps.

 

[Inthedetails]

What do mean no? I thought of this idea when I saw the Columbine videos. With the tech we have today, we could build these cameras completely computerized with microprosesers and the whole nine yards. Fully controllably with high tech apps.

With what money?

Teachers have to buy their own supplies for the classrooms - where would the money for the high-tech stuff come from? Federal? Local?

jmo

 

[Gardenista]

With what money?

Teachers have to buy their own supplies for the classrooms - where would the money for the high-tech stuff come from? Federal? Local?

jmo

We spend more money per pupil than most developed countries. Our schools are a disaster for more than just shootings

 

[CARIIS]

Ask Me Anything ... question & answer sessions with verified guests. This one was with a student in the third classroom NK shot into. A harrowing account!

Whew!

To me it means Against Medical Advice!

could not figure it out TY!

What do mean no? I thought of this idea when I saw the Columbine videos. With the tech we have today, we could build these cameras completely computerized with microprosesers and the whole nine yards. Fully controllably with high tech apps.

Were broke!

 

[WichitaFalls]

I am so impressed with this young woman. Her name is Emma Gonzalez, a student at Stoneman Douglas. I pray her passion can fuel common sense change. I'm in awe of her for how she speaks and her lack of fear. I would feel as if I'd won the lottery if she was my daughter.

https://youtu.be/ZxD3o-9H1lY

 

[Ibiz]

With what money?

Teachers have to buy their own supplies for the classrooms - where would the money for the high-tech stuff come from? Federal? Local?

jmo

These cameras would run about $500.00 bucks a piece. They will pay out several hundred million dollars in settlement money to the family's of students that were killed by the perp.

 

[Safeguard]

I am so impressed with this young woman. Her name is Emma Gonzalez, a student at Stoneman Douglas. I pray her passion can fuel common sense change. I'm in awe of her for how she speaks and her lack of fear. I would feel as if I'd won the lottery if she was my daughter.

https://youtu.be/ZxD3o-9H1lY

bbm
That's exactly how I do feel about my daughter! (She's thirteen. I call her Pirate. I've always secretly wanted a Pirate!).

 

[kaen]

We spend more money per pupil than most developed countries. Our schools are a disaster for more than just shootings

Much of the money that is spent in schools goes toward instruction and support of a rising student body who have varied disabilities. A student with disabilities with an IEP that mandates specific services may ( I work with them. I love them and want them at school but the cost is phenomenal.) require special busing including a rider who sees to the students needs in transit and a bus that can carry only two or three wheelchairs regardless of the need for a wheelchair accessible access, has a paraprofessional/aide who may be for instructional support or personal care support or both, a special education trained teacher or two depending on the setting (12:1:1, 8:1:1, 6:1:1, inclusion with special education modifications), gym options for inclusion, access to services required in the IEP (speech/language, OT, PT, counseling, nursing), lunch paraprofessionals, technology, career and post-secondary counseling. The building must be maintained accessible. Districts that are "disasters" are often filled with less affluent kids who need these services. For example, my town has a great school system- top notch--- there are few rental properties and the homes are expensive with a very high tax base. WE happen to have fewer student who require high cost services. The resources are less utilized so IEP service providers can actual be split between schools (making for fewer costs). Where I work is an urban setting with a wide income base. The percentage of students with disabilities is high with even higher rates of severe disabilities because families can afford to live there. The need for special services is astronomical as are all of the other costs. These students deserve to have the services that are going to help them to find a career path and be productive in the community.

In the stretched districts school infrastructure has been delayed/deferred/prioritized beyond repair which means that when things do go there is emergency repair costs that are additional. In my home district, the plans for replacing and repairing is not often deferred. The buildings are in decent shape.

Yes, we do spend more money but the bulk of it is in services for students who need it. And, of course, sports!

 

[CARIIS]

bbm
That's exactly how I do feel about my daughter! (She's thirteen. I call her Pirate. I've always secretly wanted a Pirate!).

something tells me where she might have gotten that pirate from !!!!!!!!!!!

they all have been terrific

i think everything is on hold until midterms are over tho

or they will do that bumpstock thing that is meaningless

 

[Betty P]

With what money?

Teachers have to buy their own supplies for the classrooms - where would the money for the high-tech stuff come from? Federal? Local?

jmo

Teachers in our well to do community haven't had a pay raise in 6 years. No, there's no money in our state for that kind of extravagance. There are better ways to make our schools and communities safe from deadly assault weapons.

 

[Gardenista]

Much of the money that is spent in schools goes toward instruction and support of a rising student body who have varied disabilities. A student with disabilities with an IEP that mandates specific services may ( I work with them. I love them and want them at school but the cost is phenomenal.) require special busing including a rider who sees to the students needs in transit and a bus that can carry only two or three wheelchairs regardless of the need for a wheelchair accessible access, has a paraprofessional/aide who may be for instructional support or personal care support or both, a special education trained teacher or two depending on the setting (12:1:1, 8:1:1, 6:1:1, inclusion with special education modifications), gym options for inclusion, access to services required in the IEP (speech/language, OT, PT, counseling, nursing), lunch paraprofessionals, technology, career and post-secondary counseling. The building must be maintained accessible. Districts that are "disasters" are often filled with less affluent kids who need these services. For example, my town has a great school system- top notch--- there are few rental properties and the homes are expensive with a very high tax base. WE happen to have fewer student who require high cost services. The resources are less utilized so IEP service providers can actual be split between schools (making for fewer costs). Where I work is an urban setting. The percentage of students with disabilities is high with even higher rates of severe disabilities. The need for special services is astronomical as are all of the other costs. These students deserve to have the services that are going to help them to find a career path and be productive in the community.

In the stretched districts school infrastructure has been delayed/deferred/prioritized beyond repair which means that when things do go there is emergency repair costs that are additional. In my home district, the plans for replacing and repairing is not often deferred. The buildings are in decent shape.

Yes, we do spend more money but the bulk of it is in services for students who need it. And, of course, sports!

Other countries do not spend on kids w/ disabilities?

 

[Betty P]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/16/...am-group/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

 

[Gardenista]

Teachers in our well to do community haven't had a pay raise in 6 years. No, there's no money in our state for that kind of extravagance. There are better ways to make our schools and communities safe from deadly assault weapons.

We already pay people who would have stopped this, No need to spend more money

 

[kaen]

Other countries do not spend on kids w/ disabilities?

Not nearly to the same degree.

Education

Historically, children and adults with disabilities have been excluded from mainstream education institutions and were educated in targeted institutions, a practice that did not reach the majority of disabled and was not cost-effective. In general, children with disabilities are less likely to be enrolled in or stay in school; this trend is even more pronounced in poor countries.

The CRPD recognizes the right of children with disabilities to be educated in the general education system. Schools in Europe and in much of the developed world are moving toward an inclusive model. Developing countries are just starting to take this approach. Flexibility is needed as mainstreaming is not always the best approach and sometimes segregated classes work better, especially for certain types of disabilities.

There are many barriers to reaching educational attainment Only 10 of 28 countries participating in the Education for All Fast Track Initiative had specific policy commitments for children with disabilities. Funding is problematic since it costs more to educate a disabled child and enough funds are not usually set aside for this purpose. Physical barriers at schools and lack of training in sign language are problems as well. Negative attitudes by students are another obstacle.

Overcoming these barriers require a national policy that addresses the inclusion of children with disabilities in education, supported by a legal framework, institutions, and resources. When possible, students should be mainstreamed, schools should be flexible in their curriculum and assessments, classroom specialists should be provided, and education and rehabilitation services should be linked.

While most developed countries have university rehabilitation programs, most developing countries cannot afford to establish them. Low and middle income countries, such as China, Lebanon, and Thailand have established mid-level training programs instead. India has established a regional training center servicing Bangladesh, Nepal, and Sri Lanka as well. (from http://www.globalization101.org/world-report-on-disability-3/)

 

[Betty P]

Quote from link above...

During one of the anti-Semitic rants in the chat, Cruz spoke of his birth mother, saying, "My real mom was a Jew. I am glad I never met her."

 

[Gardenista]

Not nearly to the same degree.

Education

Historically, children and adults with disabilities have been excluded from mainstream education institutions and were educated in targeted institutions, a practice that did not reach the majority of disabled and was not cost-effective. In general, children with disabilities are less likely to be enrolled in or stay in school; this trend is even more pronounced in poor countries.

The CRPD recognizes the right of children with disabilities to be educated in the general education system. Schools in Europe and in much of the developed world are moving toward an inclusive model. Developing countries are just starting to take this approach. Flexibility is needed as mainstreaming is not always the best approach and sometimes segregated classes work better, especially for certain types of disabilities.

There are many barriers to reaching educational attainment Only 10 of 28 countries participating in the Education for All Fast Track Initiative had specific policy commitments for children with disabilities. Funding is problematic since it costs more to educate a disabled child and enough funds are not usually set aside for this purpose. Physical barriers at schools and lack of training in sign language are problems as well. Negative attitudes by students are another obstacle.

Overcoming these barriers require a national policy that addresses the inclusion of children with disabilities in education, supported by a legal framework, institutions, and resources. When possible, students should be mainstreamed, schools should be flexible in their curriculum and assessments, classroom specialists should be provided, and education and rehabilitation services should be linked.

While most developed countries have university rehabilitation programs, most developing countries cannot afford to establish them. Low and middle income countries, such as China, Lebanon, and Thailand have established mid-level training programs instead. India has established a regional training center servicing Bangladesh, Nepal, and Sri Lanka as well. (from http://www.globalization101.org/world-report-on-disability-3/)

Nothing there proves your point. Here's the only mention of The US I saw

Non-compliance is also a problem, even among developed countries such as Australia, Brazil, Denmark, India, and the United States.

 

[CARIIS]

Isn't it AMAZING how the government got the TSA to protect airline passengers.

Guess the body count for school shootings hasn't met that degree of security.:thinking:


Nothing is being done because there's no monetary or political gain for the idiots in Washington. They'll just play the blame game and absolutely nothing will be done.

When terrorists hit some towers, places of *business*, the government sent us to war. When children/young adults slaughter our children, *innocents*, in places of education, the government sits on their hands while we bury our children.

What a marvelous set of priorities. NOT.

I agree if sandy hook did nothing its pretty
much just about money and lobbying

we will be here on another thread shortly

 

[kaen]

I agree if sandy hook did nothing its pretty
much just about money and lobbying

we will be here on another thread shortly

I sadly concur. The question is how many people have to die before legislators will act.

 

[Gardenista]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/16/...am-group/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

So sad those are the only people who would talk to him. I hope they can match up his medicated days with his SM to see if there was any difference.

 

[CARIIS]

They do. Some schools are older so the windows vary. Some teachers put creative coverings over the door windows as I have observed. Just depends on the school, county, state, etc.

I think pulling the fire alarm will become the next fad--- I know it sounds dumb but for
a little while at least I think they should quietly be killed

no more fire drills for a while anywhere next time one goes off anywhere there is gonna be total mayhem

i remember the one in the collage where a profressor or staff member pulled one and was called a hero I thought that was the stupidest idea I ever heard of - get everyone out in the open

you guys remember him being hailed as hero?


I dont even know if students or kids will move so why give a prankster the joy of causes a total zoo

its really pathetic actually\\

then i thought well there probably are a lot of folks that don't even know about this so many don't keep up with news but maybe with these young kids it will go viral which would be so cool

I have CNN on in background they are doing patty Hurst to listen to the narrative and the utter outrage at the big machine guns that were used is sooo ironic at how unbelievable it was that machine guns are firing in the background

progress huh?

I am pretty certain we all agree on the concept.

Happened a lot in Pulse too