FL-AMBER ALERT Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs. old - Putnam County #13

[not_my_kids]

What disturbs me is the gf saying in the 911 call "my daughter is missing". Just has the playing house feel to it.

That and now I am confused because the news reports are saying "believed to have been abducted" and "no indication of foul play" in the same articles.

 

[mydailyopinions]

Oh boy....I read on a local's MySpace about her being at school on Monday and sitting next to her little boy. I'm sorry, I did not save the link. Had no idea I might want to reference it someday! :bang:

I found the myspace page finally in thread #8 from last night
http://www.myspace.com/daisygirl77

 

[RR0004]

The same grandma that only sees her twice a month if that much? The same one that has ripped her father a new one because she is angry and bitter over the custody dispute? How well does she really know this child?

I imagine that she probably sees her as often as Hayleigh's mother...but perhaps I'm wrong. As far as her ripping her ex son-in-law a new one, well unless you've had your child taken away from you (as her daughter has), I can understand her feeling the way she does.

 

[PattyCake]

What disturbs me is the gf saying in the 911 call "my daughter is missing". Just has the playing house feel to it.

It bothers me a lot. Bothers me more that the father immediately jumps to the conclusion that some 'man' has her that he has to kill.... basically.

Never would it be a parents 1st assumption in their brains for a kidnapping. I believe that we would be in survival mode thinking of all other possibilities but this. Rehersed. LE Knows something, more than something and they're waiting. That I'm convinced of.

 

[mydailyopinions]

SS, I am fading quickly...been working on a HUGE multi-family garage sale! I can't sleuth any longer!

I do know I saw it through one of these people...starting with this person. I was pulling them up one by one and then realized they all have kids who go to school with Haleigh. And now I'm second guessing myself if I saw specifically that the student's mom said she sat next to her son on Monday or not, but that's what I remember. Again, I'm really tired and going to bed now, but here is the link to start with! (my history only had this one and a history link to my own space and a couple of others that were dead ends, but I did look at all the friends on this page, I know). Hope this helps! :blowkiss:

http://www.myspace.com/daisygirl77

:bedtime:

LOL, If I had known you went back to search..I sure wouldn't have..lol
Yeah, I am second guessing myself now, but it is the same post.. I think it was a general reference to her and not from Monday..
I am sure LE knows, and the school, they are just holding it close..

 

[mydailyopinions]

Yesterday the bio-mum said in a interview that she hasnt met the gf BUT the kids really seem to love her (gf).

It seemed that she was actually praising the gf. Then the gm said something about the kids being hit.

I think it was in a GVS interview. I thought it strange that the gm seems to constantly bad mouth him.

OH also the bio-mum said there is no probs/anger between her and the X.

I think this was talked about in the threads #4-#5

Does anyone alse remember this??????

(remember my days your nights ummmmmmm so im probably confusing people about when this was on)

They are both very vague about the custody issues. I think that bio mom and dad are going to be nice to one another no matter what because the last thing they want is for anyone to dissect their past..(I am sure they are unaware of forums such as this where that is what we do ) Grandmother on the other hand, not so sure about..
Too, maybe mom praises gf because she is the last one who seen her daughter, and if she ticks her off, who knows if they will ever get the right answers?

 

[not_my_kids]

It bothers me a lot. Bothers me more that the father immediately jumps to the conclusion that some 'man' has her that he has to kill.... basically.

Never would it be a parents 1st assumption in their brains for a kidnapping. I believe that we would be in survival mode thinking of all other possibilities but this. Rehersed. LE Knows something, more than something and they're waiting. That I'm convinced of.

I don't know, I lost my son in Toys R Us once and my first thought was kidnapping.
But maybe that's just me.
My first thought should have been: autistic 2 year old + distracted mommy= big electronic dinosaur in the corner one aisle over.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I imagine that she probably sees her as often as Hayleigh's mother...but perhaps I'm wrong. As far as her ripping her ex son-in-law a new one, well unless you've had your child taken away from you (as her daughter has), I can understand her feeling the way she does.

Perhaps she should blame her daughter for not being the parent she should have been to keep her children. A Judge didn't just decide the father was a Saint and take her children without reasons. Custody doesn't go with the father unless there are truly issues with the mother, imo.

The mother should have been concentrating on becoming a model parent and winning back custody if she wanted her children. Instead, she has had another one without being married, is engaged to her step brother, and isn't making her payments to the court. This doesn't speak well for her.

 

[txsvicki]

I imagine that she probably sees her as often as Hayleigh's mother...but perhaps I'm wrong. As far as her ripping her ex son-in-law a new one, well unless you've had your child taken away from you (as her daughter has), I can understand her feeling the way she does.

Oh, I can understand, too. The grandmother probably helped raised Hayleigh for a couple of years and knew very well when she was potty trained. I don't care though if these people bad mouth each other on those silly gossipy Greta and NG programs. They probably egg people on to do it for ratings. Big Deal, every family has issues and anger at someone.

 

[Leila]

Are you serious ? I went to the link but am having trouble finding it...I put in first and last name for the Official Records and Criminal Records. This is unbelievable, how did this not come out before or have I just missed this ?

I posted the court case docket in the first thread on the main page of this forum under media and documents. Link below.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79668

 

[Wise Old Owl]

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bump - I'm done for the night. I have one more thread #11 to do - but I'll do that tomorrow. Don't forgot to post your links in the media thread and not just on the discussion thread.

 

[mydailyopinions]

What disturbs me is the gf saying in the 911 call "my daughter is missing". Just has the playing house feel to it.

That and now I am confused because the news reports are saying "believed to have been abducted" and "no indication of foul play" in the same articles.

This part doesn't bother me..I guess because at the age of 17, I became full time mom to a 3 year old and 1 year old, except every other weekend..and that only lasted for 1 month before bio mom signed over all her rights like they were nothing to her. I know how easy it is to become attatched to children who don't belong to you..and yes, if something would have happened even after 5 months, my 911 call, I would have said "our" daughter too..

 

[faefrost]

Do not know that grandma would have a clue how long Haleigh has not wet the bed. She doesnt spend much time with her, I find it hard to believe she would know this fact, but not know why the child has missed alot of school.

I keep thinking that a better question to ask would not be "when did Hayleigh last wet the bed?", but rather "What happened to her the last time she did wet the bed?"

What I am getting at, is did the child simply flee on her own, fearful of the repurcussions for wetting the bed. The open back door may have simply been left for the gf's brother or party friends.

While dad may not be directly involved in the girls disapearence this week. Was their some past patern of behavior that would prompt a child of that age to flee rather than face his wrath for a percieved unpardonable event such as bed wetting.

Just speculation on my part. But it stems in large part from the cowed appearence of the gf, the outrageous threats of violence and the nasty statements by the father, and that really grim report from bio mom concerning problems in the house... "just the hitting".

As far as LE warning the locals to lock their doors and batten down the hatches to fend off the predaory pedophile stranger stalking the neighborhood. I'm gonna hazzard a guess that they are not seeing signs of a random or unknown party being responsible for this one.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Is it really true that dad and gf are sleeping in a tent? Or does it mean there is a tent set-up where they are hanging out - and probably hanging out all day and all night.

Why wouldn't they stay at one of the parents' homes?

 

[mydailyopinions]

Is it really true that dad and gf are sleeping in a tent? Or does it mean there is a tent set-up where they are hanging out - and probably hanging out all day and all night.

Why wouldn't they stay at one of the parents' homes?

Swag, my understanding is that LE stated that is where they chose to stay even though the offer was there for them to go to relatives homes..
Not sure, I guess you can look at it two ways..Either they just want to be close in case of developments, or they want to be alone out of the watchful eye of family members..

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Swag, my understanding is that LE stated that is where they chose to stay even though the offer was there for them to go to relatives homes..
Not sure, I guess you can look at it two ways..Either they just want to be close in case of developments, or they want to be alone out of the watchful eye of family members..

Well MDO - you know what that tells ya dontcha?

 

[RR0004]

Perhaps she should blame her daughter for not being the parent she should have been to keep her children. A Judge didn't just decide the father was a Saint and take her children without reasons. Custody doesn't go with the father unless there are truly issues with the mother, imo.

The mother should have been concentrating on becoming a model parent and winning back custody if she wanted her children. Instead, she has had another one without being married, is engaged to her step brother, and isn't making her payments to the court. This doesn't speak well for her.

But, I bet she knows her daughter's birthday.
Custody battles involve money. Sometimes it rests on the judge you draw. If she hadn't gotten the notice to appear then custody would have immediately gone to the father. I've seen "upstanding" women lose custody based on bald-faced lies. All I can say is that I can understand anger in this situation.

 

[Insomnia Momma]

This is getting interesting, wonder why the dad had to turn over the son to the police? Is the mom that po'ed with him?

http://twitter.com/GSReporters

 

[Storm]

Whoa! That thought would never have occurred to me.
Sick!
^i^

Can someone explain something to me? This is something I would love to ask Nancy Grace or Jane Valez Mitchell about and it is something that I havn't understood since day one b/c it hasn't made sense to me. Hopefully someone can help me understand the confusion:

OK if a child preditor took and abducted Haleigh then why would they leave the brother there? It just doesn't make sense to me that they'd take one kid and not the other.

Do you think if it was CP that they only wanted just the girl? I mean that is just odd to me is all. Especially since in some cases you hear of two kids being involved in a sexual preditor type of thing where the CP makes them perform on each other.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

This is getting interesting, wonder why the dad had to turn over the son to the police? Is the mom that po'ed with him?

http://twitter.com/GSReporters

I don't have twitter - what does it say? It was said tonight that the son is with the bio-mom back at her house in St. Glen Mary. It was her visitation weekend anyway.