FL-AMBER ALERT Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs. old - Putnam County #19

[john's mom]

I missed the presser, but I have first coast news up on the screen, I can't see anything but I have sound. Someone was praying, and then I heard someone crying. Might have been grandma. So sad, I wish they'd find her soon.

ETA: I hear someone talking now. TES had 170 searchers today, and after today they are leaving. They had water searches today, no results of significance.

Tomorrow, 2 more areas to look, that will conclude the ground search. Confident they searched the area well. Did more work at the residence, over 500 leads have come in, they are checking them in order of priority, interviewing today and tomorrow, not panning out. Not discussing with media or family anything they are working on. Ugh, sound went out. I think they were playing the presser over again.

 

[BeavisMom62]

I couldn't find it. The link,when I clicked on it said "not found". But there was a video of the candlelight vigil. Grrr...

 

[kiki the parrot]

"An air conditioner repair man who was at the home on Monday was questioned after police found out about his house call but cleared him of any wrongdoing."

http://www.zimbio.com/Haleigh+Cummings/articles/20/Florida+Sheriff+Girlfriend+Missing+5+Year

The only person that I have seen said that has been cleared.

Yes you are on to something with the Sapp connection. If we could somehow confirm that Guy Sapp is landlord/owner of Haleigh's home. Is Guy Sapp also landlord/owner of 116 Tyler Street and a relative of Donald Sapp who apparently lives there and is a sex offender. If this is the case then there is a good chance that Misty and Ron would call the landlord about the AC needing to be fixed. Could Donald of been the maintance person for Haleigh's home?

It is certainly worth exploring. Good theory.

Thanks Swag, Kat & Patience for "bumping" up this idea--have been asking repeatedly re this all day, w no response
:waitasec:
arrot:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Either I missed it or just buried it in my brain, but how long has LE been sitting on that house, since day one?

I think they have had for about 3 or 4 now. I would have to go back and see exactly.

 

[Leila]

I just posted the marriage record of Nancy Marie Griffis (maiden name Johns) to Bruce A. Griffis, in the "media and documents" thread on the main page of this forum.

Late last night I found the marriage record of the two witnesses to the above marriage, Virgil Johns junior and his wife, Marilyn C. Johns. I believe that Virgil Johns junior is the father of Nancy Marie Griffis. He was born in 1944 and would have been 21 years old in 1965 when Nancy Marie was born. Also in the records is a deed in which Virgil Johns gave property to Nancy M. Griffis for the sum of "love and affection" which almost always denotes a family relationship. Virgil's wife, Marilyn is almost 10 years younger and he married her in 1994, when his daughter was 29 years old, so she's a second wife and not blood related to Nancy M. Griffis.

There's a Virgil Johns, born in 1970, who is currently doing 8 years in Florida State Prison for robbery. The could be a son of Virgil Johns junior and brother of Nancy Marie Griffis. I don't know how Kyle Johns fits into the family yet.

 

[kellync]

Since when can LE take over a house and just "sit on it"?!

That says volumes.
I dont care who peed on what
who was on drugs
who baked biscuits in a dirty pan
whose teeth look rotted because of drugs
how many blankets you have
if you own a van or not
if you sleep through the night or wake up at 3 am
if you clean on a regular basis, or just when there is a mess
where the chimney stack is, if there is one
"making" a (ANY) father stay IN A TENT while you "process his house" while his girl is missing..hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[bogeygal]

contact with Haleigh in 30 days?
We know bio mom and gma had the kids 2 weeks ago.........
could something of happened over the next weekend and not on Mon?
Haleigh not in school much...........OH maybe the timing thing is way off!
Just MOO.........

At the presser, I thought he meant just taking another look at who had been around Kaleigh in the past 30 day timeline. Assume they'll be investigating that more now that the ground search yielded nothing?

 

[standing0]

TES is done after today? is this new?

 

[annettef49]

i'm thinking the GF got upset with the bed wetting. maybe she would punish her by putting her outside, knowing she is afraid of the dark. i hate to think or even say this but i get a feeling thats this 17 yr old would do this. she looks like she could loose it quickly and make bad choices and also bad word choices. just like what we see in the videos of her.
if the GF did this i believe she would of placed the brick there to hold the door open so the little girl could come back in when the GF told her too. maybe the GF fell asleep as the blanket n sheets were being washed and when she woke up she saw that she was gone.\im also thinking that the little girl put the kitchen light on being she was afraid of the dark and it gave her a little bit of light outside aposed to total darkness.
all this happening would explain and make sence as to the GF changeing her stories and just the way she SAYS things happened and what went on that night.
what do ya'll think about this? think it sounds about right?
i really believe this is what happened in my mind and in my heart.. AGAIN JMO tho

 

[CeeKer]

I missed the presser, but I have first coast news up on the screen, I can't see anything but I have sound. Someone was praying, and then I heard someone crying. Might have been grandma. So sad, I wish they'd find her soon.

The crying was BioMom at the vigil when she put her candle down with the others. Then She and Ron and Misty stood hugging.

I thought Misty looked... odd throughout the vigil.

Now presser has restarted.

 

[SuziQ]

contact with Haleigh in 30 days?
We know bio mom and gma had the kids 2 weeks ago.........
could something of happened over the next weekend and not on Mon?
Haleigh not in school much...........OH maybe the timing thing is way off!
Just MOO.........

Seriously, when was the last time someone other than family saw this child? Sometimes a missing person report is filed because time is running out and people are asking about them. People often are missing much longer, days or even years, before they are reported missing.

 

[ibyoungr]

Still watching raw video of last nigihts vigil.
Bio mom is broken down crying. She fell to the ground..Ron picked her up and held both Misty and her in a "group hug"

Presser is looping again.. after presser is the vigil
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=111540&catid=17

moved headquarters of search into EOC at Patluka. Talked to parents about move. Neighborhood was gracious. The facility is conducive to emergency operations.
Logistically it is a better location.
During the search, Equsearch had 170 volunteers. 30 LE officers in search today. Only LE in some areas. Nothing located today. 40 LE on the water. Nothing found relating to investigation. 2 more areas tomorrow and that will conclude ground search. Gone over Green LN. Searched area over and over. Went back into residence last night.
Search teams on standby. 500 leads... some are bogus but must be checked out.
Have interviews today and tomorrow.
see next post.....

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Since when can LE take over a house and just "sit on it"?!

Exactly! Something tells me we may have a possible crime scene of criminal activity other than someone just up and taking Haleigh out of the home. Their holding onto the house as the forensic test results trickle in one at the time until they have them all returned from the lab.

Interesting.

Yes interesting about the "Mother and Father" are fully cooperating. I'm like the poster who just posted and said, I'm talking it at face value. Oh yeah, LE knows the difference between mom and girlfriend. I think our Misty is being tight lipped.

I wonder what RJ has told mommy the past could of days?

You can bet he's talked, if not anything other than how Misty treated them. He may not be able to give a full account in one sitting or session of conversation, but children naturally tend to spill information along and along. It just freely comes out during interactions with them. Something like, "Misty got mad at Haleigh alot", something to that effect.

He is giving an accounting of everyday living with dad and gf, just not everything at one time, unless we luck up and he remembers alot at one time, which can be possible, but highly un-likely even when prodded.

 

[BeavisMom62]

That says volumes.
I dont care who peed on what
who was on drugs
who baked biscuits in a dirty pan
whose teeth look rotted because of drugs
how many blankets you have
if you own a van or not
if you sleep through the night or wake up at 3 am
if you clean on a regular basis, or just when there is a mess
where the chimney stack is, if there is one
"making" a (ANY) father stay IN A TENT while you "process his house" while his girl is missing..hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

You all are much better sleuthers than I, but I really have never heard of this before either. Something very strange it seems to me.

 

[LeLe1953]

Another scenario? Haleigh & Jr. in bed @ 8 pm. Misty getting ready to turn in @ 10pm, Haleigh wakes up wet & comes to Misty for help w/ wet bedding. (The bedwetting could have been just an occasional thing, supposedly never happened when she stayed w/ bio mom, but not there very often-) Misty, tired irritable,resentful, whacks or shoves Haleigh, somehow causing fractured skull or broken neck, goes unconscious but still breathing a little - "I covered her with a little sheet" too freaked out to know what to do - washes the blankets - in the meantime Haleigh dies - So if Jr. aware of anything might have thought she was just sleeping - But I sure can't think of how Misty could have had it together enough to dispose of a body real well -

I bet the kids were afraid of dads butt whooping, aren't most? What if like you said, Haleigh wet her bed that night, went into Misty, who maybe had washed the bedding for the umpteenth time that day due to an accident the night before & got pizzed. Knowing Haleigh is afraid of the dark, knowing Haleigh is probably afraid of her daddy's spankings, she made her sit outside, out back, with her bedding, telling her she could sit there till her daddy got home. That would account for Misty propping open the door & some bedding being outside. I don't think her real intention was to leave the child until daddy got home as daddy would be real pee'd at gf, but I think she told Haleigh she was going to sit there till daddy got home & then tell him she wet her bed ONCE AGAIN. Does this make sense to anyone?

 

[Shutterfly]

Correct me if I'm wrong.....

RC moved into this house Oct 08?
RC has "been with" MC for 4-5 months.
MC's brother lives around the corner.


Did RC meet MC when he moved into this house or sometime immediately thereafter?

Has MC been living with RC for 30 days? Could that be the reason for the interest in the entire 30 day period leading up to Haleigh being gone?

Just a thought.........

 

[panthera]

At press conference, officer stated that they were classifying this an abduction because they get more help that way...."We get more bang for our buck" he said.

At least he's honest!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Today, I am getting such a rude awakening. Again...I have to stop and evaluate what we know. It is not much, but it does point back at the father and the gf with what they are not saying and with what they are saying. I want to believe the father...but I went back to see what I thought initially and I didn't buy it then. Maybe I should have stayed with my first impressions of this case. Like I said...going back to square one.

 

[kiki the parrot]

She is 5, we can assume she is either in kindergarten or pre-K, right? Is she in A.M. or P.M. kindergarten? Some districts go all day now for kindergarten but just a couple of days a week. Did she attend a child program after school (daycare) so her father could sleep b/f he picked her up?

We know she was enrolled in Browning-Pearce Elem.... as to how often Haleigh attended, or whether she went to school Monday, remains unknown. Bio mom states Haleigh frequently missed school and dad told her if Haleigh missed any more, "they'd be taking him to jail." ETA Sorry if anyone else has already answered you! JMO

arrot:

 

[ibyoungr]

not going to discuss with family all the leads. Have not talked to Chad Reynolds. They are aware of the missing SO. Do not believe he has any relation to Hayleigh.
Just as positive today as the first day. FBI is sticking with them to the end.

Just not sending searchers out to make a show.. They knew that they would have to scale back if they did not find anything.


***The above notes were taken from the presser****