FL-AMBER ALERT Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs. old - Putnam County #19

[Kat]

Still watching raw video of last nigihts vigil.
Bio mom is broken down crying. She fell to the ground..Ron picked her up and held both Misty and her in a "group hug"

Presser is looping again.. after presser is the vigil
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=111540&catid=17

moved headquarters of search into EOC at Patluka. Talked to parents about move. Neighborhood was gracious. The facility is conducive to emergency operations.
Logistically it is a better location.
During the search, Equsearch had 170 volunteers. 30 LE officers in search today. Only LE in some areas. Nothing located today. 40 LE on the water. Nothing found relating to investigation. 2 more areas tomorrow and that will conclude ground search. Gone over Green LN. Searched area over and over. Went back into residence last night.
Search teams on standby. 500 leads... some are bogus but must be checked out.
Have interviews today and tomorrow.
see next post.....

TY Ibyoungr :blowkiss:

I hope you don't mind I bolded one sentence.

 

[yolorado]

Seriously, when was the last time someone other than family saw this child? Sometimes a missing person report is filed because time is running out and people are asking about them. People often are missing much longer, days or even years, before they are reported missing.

Have we heard when BioMom's next visitation was to be?

 

[Cubby]

Where is the landfill for this area? I'm sorry everyone, but someone should get there fast. Seems like a 17 yr old would "trash" evidence if she had little time, or even ample time, and didn't want anyone finding out. If ahe isnt in the h2o, or septic, or woods, or home, she is in......

I agree. I also have a little part of me nagging wondering if this could have possibly been staged between dad and Misty to avoid an upcoming custody issue, or the possiblity of an upcoming custody issue. Especially with the talk about Haleigh missing so much school, if she missed anymore dad was going to jail. Perhaps Misty had problems waking in time to get Haleigh to school ontime? Though, if that were the case, why wouldn't dad interupt his sleep or sleep after he got Haleigh to school. We don't even know which if the two takes Haleigh to school in the am. argh!

 

[not_my_kids]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=131322#comments

I'm on my way to see if this is in the media forum too, but up until now I hadn't actually seen where LE said they thought she was in the state of FL still. And I also heard that the FBI had been called in ....why are the Fibbies there if she is still thought to be in the state?

 

[catch_22]

This makes more sense to me than any explanation of an intruder using the cinder block. Nice one! :clap:

i think this is one of several valid explanations of the cinder block.

i think misty could have used it to stage the scene. she could have just unlocked the door but this is much more signifigant and couldn't be dismissed. LE could say "just because the door was unlocked doesn't mean someone came in and took the child" but with the doors wide open......someone had to be there. i'm not sure if misty is devious enough to think of doing this, though.

the intruder using it makes a lot of sense to me even though i'm currently leaning towards misty being responsible right now. an intruder would want a quiet escape and he couldn't be fumbling around with a storm door and keep it from slamming (it probably made noise opening and closing too) while he had his hands full with the child. i'm sure he would have had to carry her while holding her mouth so she couldn't scream. assuming an intruder would have some inside info and know ron wouldn't be there, then it was actually not that risky. if misty wakes up, then he runs out the door and is long gone by the time the cops get there........

 

[BeavisMom62]

Seriously, when was the last time someone other than family saw this child? Sometimes a missing person report is filed because time is running out and people are asking about them. People often are missing much longer, days or even years, before they are reported missing.

Very very true, SuzieQ. Very good point, IMO. Maybe if she really has been missing longer, the reasoning for the timing of the 911 call could be because this is the biomom's visitation weekend? Possible?

 

[LancelotLink]

I just called Crimestoppers and gave them the info on the properties.

 

[Anita Richman]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=131322#comments

I'm on my way to see if this is in the media forum too, but up until now I hadn't actually seen where LE said they thought she was in the state of FL still. And I also heard that the FBI had been called in ....why are the Fibbies there if she is still thought to be in the state?

I think it's because kidnapping is a Federal offense.

 

[cajun]

That's the thing, if one blanket is dirty and another is hanging somewhere and you wash both of them, and there is one in the van, why not get the one out of the van and use it for the kids? Why is her blanket in the van?

The door not being broken into or the lock is bigger issue in my mind. LE will have to go over the entire trailer to see is someone came in and left any dirt hair any prints, DNA, behind. But Ron said it was locked and so did GF, so how is it open but the lock isn't broken or the door damaged? See it doesn't add up, unless she wasn't home or was outside and left the door open herself.

I think the van belonged to someone else. Only vehicle I saw in front of the place was like a Bronco or something. Don't know why blanket was in the van, LE is so tight lipped about this case.

 

[CeeKer]

I still had the player open that the presser was on and they're playing the raw video from the vigil again.

 

[sega-sleuth]

i also think this all happened way earlier than 3am. this is why she didnt call 911 or the Dad when she FIRST noticed she was missing.
also i think she left the brick holding the door open in HOPES that the little girl would show up and come back in the house. when this didnt happen she had all that time to come up with a story for when the Dad got home. make it look like someone took her.i believe in my mind and heart this is what happened. i dont think anyone took the child out of the house. the GF put her outside, i think... and the little girl wandered off OR someone snatched her when she was lost.AGAIN,,JMO

I agree with you. It would be interesting to know if Misty was in her night clothes or fully dressed when Dad got home.

 

[Tonia]

If you believe in this kind of stuff

Internet Physics believe Haleigh is gone

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m2d15-Internet-psychics-believe-Haleigh-is-gone

 

[LancelotLink]

I think this sleuthing of names, comparable and relative need to either be called in, e-mailed because they are important enough to bring to Le attention. These are good solid leads, for their is connections. This family only recently moved into this rental property, thus causing them to come into contact, meet, new people which could have placed them on someone's radar screen like a SO, and now we can confirm and connect this being so.

Once you start having alot of coincidences, it changes to not being so coincidental. Good supereme job of sleuthing, these warrant a mention to LE.

Thank you!
True. And I have to wonder, what does a SO do for a living? Has to be hard finding gainful employment with a record like his. So, maybe he does work for the landlord to help pay for his rent.

 

[cajun]

Have we heard when BioMom's next visitation was to be?

now, this weekend.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

And why want they respond to the publics questioning this? Why? What possible motive or reason could they have in not revealing that publically? Do they want the father and gf to think LE has taken their word on her school day on Monday and not reveal to them that they are aware she wasn't in school as to not upset the apple cart? The less knowledge LE has, the more the person feels safe and secure in their alibis and stories given to them.

Pressuring them too early on could backfire, meaning lawyering up, not cooperating, plus they tend to get cocky, start believing their own lies and mistakes soon follow.

Exactly...yes. The fact remains they didn't lawyer up immediately which gave LE a distinct advantage on this case. (They could have in the past 24 hours.)

 

[curiositycat]

I just called Crimestoppers and gave them the info on the properties.

Several others did last night also, when Shadow first found the information. I hope they pay attention to it. However, they probably already have put that together. We hope

 

[BeavisMom62]

Welcome to WS annettef49! Great 1st post!!!

I think that could be very possible! That is the reason she made stories up as she went along! JMO

Makes sense to me cheko! Welcome annette!

 

[babycat]

This may have been posted before, this thread is moving way too fast for me to keep up, but...

Disclaimer: I don't want this to come off as me being accusatory, because I am in NO WAY suggesting this happened- just a hypothetical scenario.


What if...(BIG IF) Misty was, herself, previously molested by, (or knew of rumors of someone being molested by) say, a close family member...a brother, etc, and she had an idea that he might be responsible for Haleigh's disappearance. She might be too afraid to come forward, or feel guilty for not telling the father about this person's history, if she had prior knowledge, especially if she had introduced this person to Haleigh, or let Haleigh spend time around him.

What if THIS is why the person wasn't shy about coming into the house. Maybe the person knew Misty very well and wasn't too apprehensive about having to explain his presence in the house, or didn't think (if he/she were caught) that Misty would tell. Maybe this person could have said, if they were caught in the house, that the left a cell phone there earlier, etc, and had to retrieve it. This person knew, maybe, how the door worked. This person would have known the father's work routine. This person would have known whether they were inclined to use a gun. This person would have known the lay out of the house, etc. This person probably would not have alarmed Haleigh as suspicious, especially if she had seen this person earlier, and spent time at their house earlier that day.

I really don't want to sound accusatory- make of it what you will. Could be a friend, relative, anything. I'm just saying...this is starting to make the most sense to me. I mean, what if, IF Misty had someone like this (not naming names) over earlier, and Haleigh had a great time playing with some kids, and the person snuck back in at night, asked Haleigh if she wanted to go play video games, or with their kids at his house, etc. Wouldn't be too apprehensive about turning on a light, since they could have used an excuse like left my keys, wallet, phone, etc if Misty caught them in the house.

I don't know. Just thinking.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Volume was very low from station:
going with a 30 day timeline(interviewing everyone within the past 30 days that may have had contact with Haleigh)
several more days until home is released to family, and whatever they have found or find is being released to FL crime lab
has search teams on "a short leash" "there is no reason to have searchers out there just to put on a show"

Sounds like they learned a thing or two from the Orlando situation.


Originally Posted by KOOL LOOK

And why want they respond to the publics questioning this? Why? What possible motive or reason could they have in not revealing that publically? Do they want the father and gf to think LE has taken their word on her school day on Monday and not reveal to them that they are aware she wasn't in school as to not upset the apple cart? The less knowledge LE has, the more the person feels safe and secure in their alibis and stories given to them.

Pressuring them too early on could backfire, meaning lawyering up, not cooperating, plus they tend to get cocky, start believing their own lies and mistakes soon follow.

Again, sounds like they've learned something, doesn't it? Give folks enough rope to hang themselves...sit back and watch their movements.

 

[Anita Richman]

Don't we have any Websleuthers in the area who can go down and take some pictures for us? I'd personally like to see all of the vehicles owned by Ron, Misty and family (and neighbors). I'd also like a video walking from the trailer, to the train tracks. (And one from Ron's home to Misty's brother's.) That's all for my wish-list for now. OH! One more picture I'd like...a close-up shot of each of the windows in Ron's home to see what is covering them.