OMG! I almost posted this same scenario this morning. I even went as far as thinking her b/f has a SO past, so even more the reason why she must lie.
ummmm great sleuthing minds think alike. :woohoo:
OMG! I almost posted this same scenario this morning. I even went as far as thinking her b/f has a SO past, so even more the reason why she must lie.
I was wondering...being new here and all..is there a prize for the person who guesses right?!
J/K!!!! Thought ya'll might need a laugh..
I agree with these scenarios to an extent but the cinder block propping the door open, to me, seems staged and nothing else. I can't shake that feeling.
Here ya go. I think they live down here full time now - maybe they retired.
SATSUMA, FL -- Donald Bard remembers the phone call early last Tuesday morning that woke him up.
His wife Phyllis answered the call.
"We were sleeping and then we received a phone call, the automated phone call that Haleigh Cummings was missing in our neighborhood," said Phyllis Bard.
The Bard's recognized the name right away.
"The home where Haleigh was taken from belonged to my parents," said Phyllis.
It sits right next door to her own home, and Phyllis began renting it out a few years ago after her father died of diabetes complications and her mother died in a car crash 80 days later.
The Bard's first met Haleigh's father, Ron Cummings, last August.
Phyllis says, "They first moved next door to us, and then they needed a bedroom for each of the children he said, and so he asked to rent that house and we rented that to him in November."
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/...=up6+XPFOo7ImOdaS+0IMC5QenDlmYjDlr3s8uCtxkiE=
((((feeling invisible here)))) so I'll ask again...was Jr. home during the day everyday?? He didn't go to PreK or anything did he??
(bold mine) Have posted, and find plausible, ideas bolded. Am vascillating between wandering off/SO abduction scenario, and acquaintance intruder scenario (possibly also SO). But I do believe she knew at least casually any intruder. It is difficult (tho not impossible) to otherwise explain the silence, swiftness and seeming ease w which she was removed. And have always believed that IF it was second (home invasion) that they entered the front door. (So much attention being focused upon back door, simply because it appears point of exit!) Don't think any abductor would have presence of mind or risk wasting time leaving false trails all over, w a kidnapped child. Also don't believe adult's prints were found w Haleigh's tho IIRC, and think those may be prints from after other kids left and she was outside--by herself. JMO
arrot:
Hi,
.Still trying to catch up. No real new news yet today.
According to the tax records a Donald Bard owns the home that Haleigh lived in as well as others and he has his tax bills sent to an address in PA but also shows a phone number at 201 Monroe Ave as well. Landlady who lives next door could be the person who is the 'agent' for the owner. Do you happen to know what the address was or what her name was? Anybody who has ties to that house would have the potential to have keys or know the layout. There appears to be only 3 homes on Green Lane and Green connects to Monroe Ave. but 201 is further up and is on the corner of Monroe and Buchanan Cir not in eye view of Haleighs home but may be considered next door so that makes me wonder if the owners are snowbirds and live down there and come back up north in the hot season.
Just a reminder about how little ones can remember and tell of events.
Jessie Davis' case. Her little 2 year old son was the one who gave the details of her death. Mommy was crying,” Blake told deputies. “Mommy broke the table… Mommy’s in rug.”
I really believe if something happened earlier in the day the young boy would be talking.
It would raise too much suspicion, If this is the case... It's playing out beautifully. She's safe and right now everyone is looking at dad and his girlfriend.. LE isn't even pressuring for a poly-graph from bio-mom or her family they have signed to take one supposedly and LE just hasn't acted upon it.
Maybe she felt first the daughter, as she was more at risk in that household? I don't know.
I'm sure that LE is pulled in multiple directions on this one.
I'm just guessing here, but the fact that Ron was living with and sleeping with an underage girl might have been enough in court to regain custody?? Not to mention the child not attending school. Both together - so long as mom is clean and not using - she would have both kids without having to steal them.
as for an accident inside the house (child ingesting alcohol or drugs or accidentally drowning or choking or the other million ways kids can hurt themselves) that would be a reason to lie - to not lose custody of the remaining child. jmho
ITA...I also think Ron has some of the answers we are looking for!
Since he just turned 4 would he be in pre school? We don't have a free preschool here unless you are on assistance(welfare) and then you get on the Headstart program. Not sure how FL is
I wonder if the landlord is the one who sent the ac guy over to the cummings home?
I am convinced that whoever took and did something to Haleigh that it was someone she knew. I think she was alive and walked to the pond and to the end of those tracks hence the reason why her scent stopped at the end of them. I think whoever it was that had her made her walk there and the fact that she KNEW them explains why she would have willingly went with them and didn't make a noise. They could have easily lied to her to get her to go with them if it was someone she knew and I have though since the day this news broke Haleigh knew whoever it was that took her and that this person knew their way around that house. It also explains why they knew exactly what room to go to and why they got out of that place with no one in the house knowing.
We really have no info about that evening/night except from Misty. After 5:30-5:45 pm....if her story about brother and nephews and ac guy is true...she's the only person, besides Jr., that saw Haleigh. For all we know, she could have taken Haleigh somewhere and bashed her head in...or gave her to someone....and came back and staged a break in.
The door would need to be propped open regardless of WHO took her out. So it does not necessarily point to an abductor of even an alive child. But yeah the way they harp on it does seem strange.