GUILTY FL - Cherish Perrywinkle, 8, Jacksonville, 21 June 2013 #3

[Cybermom]

Swamp mamma
From all the articles I have read this is my understanding
*RP had money to cover taxi ride to and from airport and a little extra
*ticket both ways was covered by BJ. She was flying to San Diego to visit him per custody arrangement since he moved across the country away from her residence.
* moo RP had not completed packing if she was out shopping.

I have not read anything to state that RP had ever NOT sent Cherish to visit. I personally think,with all the mudslinging; BJ would have aired that grievance if it was typical.

 

[sreshowtime]

Depending on the carrier Cherish would have flown- the unaccompanied minor fee would have to have been paid upon check-in before departure. A form is also filled out at that time stating who is picking the child up upon arrival. I am not aware that it can be paid ahead of time.
Fees vary, but Delta, for example, charges $100...each way.

 

[YidArmyRach]

This is why I made my last comment. Msm mentioned their court case so i searched for both of them, then cross checked other names that popped up. I don't think cherish or her sisters stood much of a chance because in reading the bashing back and forth the only one who has refrained from bashing is rayne. I have not read one single article where mom bashed fiance or Bio dad. But we do see dad complaining about mom, fiance complaining about Bio dad. These things are horrible for children All I saw saw was back and forth. Jmo I hope the two little girls can be made whole again, or as whole as possible. I don't see it though.

Just catching up here. I'm almost speechless..... why on earth should mom bash bio dad. He paid for that little girl by working hard, he gave her wonderful holidays and spent an awful lot of money trying to offer her a better life. He has done absolutely nothing wrong. And he has every right to say what he wants about her "parenting".

As for Raine being the only one who has refrained from bashing, lets face it, she has no right to criticise anyone after the decisions she made that night.

 

[Cybermom]

Depending on the carrier Cherish would have flown- the unaccompanied minor fee would have to have been paid upon check-in before departure. A form is also filled out at that time stating who is picking the child up upon arrival. I am not aware that it can be paid ahead of time.
Fees vary, but Delta, for example, charges $100...each way.

Deltas unaccompanied minor fee can be paid at reservations, as well as JetBlue, AirTran, united, frontier, and us airways. I think Southwest used to collect at gate pre boarding but you can imagine the issues involved and I believe it's now included in reservations.
All airlines require the parent or guardian to arrive well in advance, stay with the child and fill out forms/releases.

 

[neenna66]

Just catching up here. I'm almost speechless..... why on earth should mom bash bio dad. He paid for that little girl by working hard, he gave her wonderful holidays and spent an awful lot of money trying to offer her a better life. He has done absolutely nothing wrong. And he has every right to say what he wants about her "parenting".

As for Raine being the only one who has refrained from bashing, lets face it, she has no right to criticise anyone after the decisions she made that night.

There are always two sides to every story and IMO when Bio dad opened the door by speaking about the paternity case, it also opened the door into his actions during that time period. And she could have retaliated about his actions during that time and before but I have yet to read anything from her about him. I see allegations from him and from AP, but not RP. If she has said something bad in the news or to a reporter please, I was just asking to be shown where. I haven't seen it yet. Every night I do a Google news search for RP, BJ, and CP. I read every article. I read every blog that shows up for all three of them. I do a Google news search for all three and read all new articles. It is pretty easy to keep up with it because Google tracks sites and pages I have visited.

And in all of this I have not seen RP say one bad thing about BJ. I have seen bj's side say tat she said this or that but it has not been corroborated by her. She has said nothing except about CP and how bad he feels. How sad she is.

So if there is an article where RP directly herself bashes the father please show me. I don't think it is there. And this could turn into an ugly war if the press had half of what i have found and had the willing participants (RP, AP, BJ). They don't have all of that so it will fade away, except for DS court hearings and eventual trial.

I feel for all parties involved. This is beyond tragic. There were issues before DS appeared on scene. This is my opinion based on my life and those around me. Thanks for listening.

 

[vasportsmom]

What in the world could Rayne possibly say about anyone that would compare to her own abysmal parenting skills? SHE put her children in a vehicle with a stranger! SHE allowed a strange man to accompany her child to the dressing room! SHE sent Cherish off with a stranger to get HER a cheeseburger! Relating to RP is one thing. Expecting anyone to pat her on the back for having enough sense to not point out that she was the person that failed her child the most is laughable.

 

[twopalms]

The fact that she did not even mention bio dad in obit, yet listed baby daddy of other kids, bashes real dad more than any words ever could.

 

[SouthAussie]

Unless I’ve missed something, I haven’t heard RP bash anyone at all … not even the monster who murdered her daughter.

Oh wait, she did say that Cherish knew that she shouldn’t go with strangers. Is that bashing?

 

[Donjeta]

The day before Christmas in 2004, Rayne Perrywinkle went into labor. It was 43 degrees outside, and Rayne didn’t have a home.

Rayne and Cherish stayed with the Salvation Army.

One month later, a woman at the shelter would document that a Billy Jarreau had arrived. The woman said he told her he’d return. He never did.

When Rayne would ask for child support two years later, Billy told the court it was the first he’d heard of Cherish. Two months after a DNA test, the father’s attorney would say Billy should have custody.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/2013-0...-old-cherish-perrywinkles-death#ixzz2ZRGKhnDM

This is from the RP special by the reporter who spent a week with her. To me it looks like she may have gotten in a few subtle digs at BJ there although she's not directly quoted in this part. JMO

I think it's just as well that she didn't say more because I think RP would have gained absolutely nothing from bashing her ex to the press. People were already angry enough for putting her children in danger for a hundred dollars and I think if she'd at that point given an in-depth interview about how her deceased child's grieving father sucks in every way it would just have made people angrier at her. It usually does not go down well if people think that someone is trying to deflect their own guilt by bashing an innocent party. The reaction would most likely have been, your child is dead, you hnded her over to a murderer and this is what you care about, complaining about your ex and how he's treated you wrong. What about how you treated Cherish? Whatever his faults may be at least he didn't allw his daughter be raped and murdered. Several people would probably have noted how much their ex sucks too but they still don't let their daughters walk off with creepy strangers in the middle of the night.

 

[vasportsmom]

The fact that she did not even mention bio dad in obit, yet listed baby daddy of other kids, bashes real dad more than any words ever could.

This is so true! BJ's child is dead because RP couldn't be bothered to parent and omitting him from the obit was unforgivable. It was such a petty, childish, vindictive move. Once a child dies because of your failings you should not have the right to cause the other parent more pain in any way.

*I am usually all for supporting mothers but there has to be a line in the sand and for me a child dying crosses that line. I was poor, sad, mad, depressed, drunk ... whatever is just an excuse, a horrible cop out of an excuse. No child should be dead because mommy can't deal but refuses to let the other parent take over.

 

[vasportsmom]

Unless I’ve missed something, I haven’t heard RP bash anyone at all … not even the monster who murdered her daughter.

Oh wait, she did say that Cherish knew that she shouldn’t go with strangers. Is that bashing?

No, we call that deflection and victim blaming!

 

[Donjeta]

The fact that she did not even mention bio dad in obit, yet listed baby daddy of other kids, bashes real dad more than any words ever could.

And the funeral or viewing debacle about who could attend.

 

[neenna66]

Unless I’ve missed something, I haven’t heard RP bash anyone at all … not even the monster who murdered her daughter.

Oh wait, she did say that Cherish knew that she shouldn’t go with strangers. Is that bashing?

DS was no longer a stranger at that point. That was RP fault and she has even said as much. I just want one link where RP said to any reporter that BJ was bad or any other negative about BJ. It is not there. And this is my opinion but her statement about what happened, cherish going with DS, can be taken as blaming cherish or could be taken as trying to understand that which can never be understood.

 

[floridamomma]

neenna, with all due respect, why are you soooo protective of rp? do you know her?

 

[vasportsmom]

DS was no longer a stranger at that point. That was RP fault and she has even said as much. I just want one link where RP said to any reporter that BJ was bad or any other negative about BJ. It is not there. And this is my opinion but her statement about what happened, cherish going with DS, can be taken as blaming cherish or could be taken as trying to understand that which can never be understood.

No longer a stranger? Really? What moved him from creepy old man to perfectly fine gentleman to go off on a fast food run with? Was it the 2 hours he spent trying to buy Cherish inappropriate items or was it the being allowed in the dressing room that did it? Holy hell, I get that you relate to RP due to the death of your own child and the circumstances surrounding that death but FFS this is nuts.

FTR, nobody here has accused RP of saying anything bad about BJ. You're attempting to defend her against ... Well, that part beats me but it wasn't said here. There are enough real issues that we have no need to manufacture any.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

No longer a stranger? Really? What moved him from creepy old man to perfectly fine gentleman to go off on a fast food run with? Was it the 2 hours he spent trying to buy Cherish inappropriate items or was it the being allowed in the dressing room that did it? Holy hell, I get that you relate to RP due to the death of your own child and the circumstances surrounding that death but FFS this is nuts.

FTR, nobody here has accused RP of saying anything bad about BJ. You're attempting to defend her against ... Well, that part beats me but it wasn't said here. There are enough real issues that we have no need to manufacture any.

Ain't it the truth.

 

[Donjeta]

DS was no longer a stranger at that point. That was RP fault and she has even said as much. I just want one link where RP said to any reporter that BJ was bad or any other negative about BJ. It is not there. And this is my opinion but her statement about what happened, cherish going with DS, can be taken as blaming cherish or could be taken as trying to understand that which can never be understood.

I think there was really little that she could have said that would not have made it worse for her. I mean, whichever things may have annoyed her about BJ , such as not paying enough child support or wanting Cherish to visit too often or too seldom or criticizing her parenting or whatever, none of that got Cherish murdered.
And as the custody dispute apparently was the main point of contention between them she would only have been digging blood from her own nose if she'd brought that up and been too angry about BJ having the nerve to want custody and say that she wasn't a safe parent because, well, see what happened to Cherish in her care.

 

[neenna66]

neenna, with all due respect, why are you soooo protective of rp? do you know her?

No I do not know her. I just want to understand. And i vocalize that when I don't understand things. DS can never be understood. He is a monster. Rayne has her own issues I am sure. So does everyone in this case. Maybe I shouldn't have done as much research on this case. Maybe then I wouldn't see things. But I feel forall of these people. Is that so wrong? Would I do what she did? No. But I am not her, none of us are. So how can we judge her? MOO...

 

[neenna66]

No, we call that deflection and victim blaming!

If a parent lost a child in a fire would we say she is blaming the victim if the child was not where the parent thought that child was (child ran from one room to another) if that parent made a statement, I don't know why she left her room.

Spellcheck utilized so I do not miss any vowels, and making sure auto correct does not change any words either.

 

[floridamomma]

we have allll read everything, we have all researched, we allll tried to understand... i guess what i am now trying to understand is why you read what the rest of us read, yet you defend rp, and nobody else has come to that point.

just...curiousor and curiousor, to quote my favorite movie.