FL - Doug Benefield, 58, shot and killed by estranged wife, Manatee County, 27 Sept 2020

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Yeah I agree the cross was very painful and I felt sorry for Ashley especially making her recreate what happened the night she shot Doug, seems like the pros was trying to re traumatise her. I wonder if she'll get not guilty or an acquittal.
It reminded me quite a lot of the end of Kim Potter's cross examination when the prosecutor was going in on her really hard while she was sobbing uncontrollably. Unlike AB I am certain that Potter's emotion was genuine remorse but I thought they really risked ruining the case by going in too hard on a potentially sympathetic defendant.

KP was found guilty. AB? We shall see.

JMO
 
Okay, now I get where you're coming from about her so-called Ninja threat on her life but since it's her self-defense for killing him I still think it was the right decision for the state.

btw: Peter.."The Laywer You know" also thinks it was a mistake for the state.
Argh! Spoiler alert! I'm watching his video now and haven't got that far yet!

JK ;)
 
Argh! Spoiler alert! I'm watching his video now and haven't got that far yet!

JK ;)
Enjoy! lol

IMO:
Peter's video from yesterday and today plus what he posts next week is all we need to get the fullest picture of the trial and what people following it are saying.
 
What was AB's reasoning for this?
I find it very concerning.
Concerning that the company that administered the oxygen therapy to a 3 month old when it's said that the child should be at least 15 months and AB subjecting her 3 month old daughter.

When Doug and Ashley Benefield Started a Ballet ...
Vanity Fair
https://www.vanityfair.com › Style › new york city ballet




Sep 2, 2021 — ... her three-month-old daughter for 26 sessions in an oxygen chamber. (Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is typically administered to scuba divers .

She subjected her child to that treatment when it was proved there was no Poisoning.

Article with information about the false poisoning allegations and more.
Snipped
But the judge was not persuaded by two days of testimony and the lab test results Ashley had submitted:
JUDGE DIANA MORELAND [Court audio]: There is not a single scintilla of credible evidence that Ms. Benefield has ever been poisoned or suffered from any illness of any poison.
That ruling cleared the way for Doug to finally see his daughter.Days later, he and Ashley met outside the sheriff's office to exchange the baby. To Stephanie's surprise, Ashley was suddenly very accommodating.

 
I think for me the false poisoning allegations against her husband and subjecting her baby to oxygen therapy really really told me all I needed to know about who she is and what she would do to get what she wanted. I hope she is found guilty-- but I am not counting on it. I still think she is evil.
 
I finally read the Vanity Fair article. Yesterday AB tesitified the fight in the kitchen where the gun was waved at her and DB shot a hole in the kitchen ceiling, was over a shadow box that EB took apart and placed a rose in. The article says that AB found EB’s diary and EB hated AB. So why was AB snooping around so much?
 

I finally read the Vanity Fair article. Yesterday AB tesitified the fight in the kitchen where the gun was waved at her and DB shot a hole in the kitchen ceiling, was over a shadow box that EB took apart and placed a rose in. The article says that AB found EB’s diary and EB hated AB. So why was AB snooping around so much?
BBM:
The fight over the shadowbox led to the gun being thrown and hitting the wall.
AB claims DB threw the gun at her and missed.
The shot in the ceiling was a different time

AB's testimony on the fight/shadowbox .

4:51:40 prosecutor.

 
I think the primary reason she wanted to get pregnant is because these two were living in some fantasy world of embodying “family values.” They were enamored with the identity not the actual values. It was a manic thing for both of them. I think they were both experiencing difficult transitions and this was supposed to be the balm. And the fantasy burst. JMO
 
BBM:
The fight over the shadowbox led to the gun being thrown and hitting the wall.
AB claims DB threw the gun at her and missed.
The shot in the ceiling was a different time

AB's testimony on the fight/shadowbox .

4:51:40 prosecutor.

Thank you. I didn’t realize it was 2 different incodents.
 
Enjoy! lol

IMO:
Peter's video from yesterday and today plus what he posts next week is all we need to get the fullest picture of the trial and what people following it are saying.
OK now I've watched it, I think Peter agrees with me more than I agree with myself!

I think she's guilty, but will probably be found innocent (of murder-2 at least, they might be able to get her on some sort of lesser included if they can get that jury instruction in), and I think they'll find her innocent because that "reconstruction" moment in cross examination was an attempt to impeach the defendant on the exact piece of evidence that I believe makes her guilty. And they failed to do so. Spectacularly!

I fully expected that cross examination to be a disaster for AB, instead it was a disaster for the State. She gave pretty good answers to many of the leading questions that O'Donnell put to her that I did not see coming at all. The only thing I can think of to compare it to was when Chris Darden asked OJ Simpson to try on the gloves. A practical demonstration in front of the jury borne out of sheer desperation, that backfired completely!

If she is acquitted, it will be because of that. moment.

MOO
 
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OK now I've watched it, I think Peter agrees with me more than I agree with myself!

I think she's guilty, but will probably be found innocent (of murder-2 at least, they might be able to get her on some sort of lesser included if they can get that jury instruction in), and I think they'll find her innocent because that "reconstruction" moment in cross examination was an attempt to impeach the defendant on the exact piece of evidence that I believe makes her guilty. And they failed to do so. Spectacularly!

I fully expected that cross examination to be a disaster for AB, instead it was a disaster for the State. She gave pretty good answers to many of the leading questions that O'Donnell put to her that I did not see it coming at all. The only thing I can think of to compare it to was when Chris Darden asked OJ Simpson to try on the gloves. A practical demonstration in front of the jury borne out of sheer desperation, that backfired completely!

If she is acquitted, it will be because of that. moment.

MOO
I don't know.
Peter did make a good point about the prosecutors.
Did they hold back under cross and are waiting for their closing arguments?

IMO:For closing and a jury discussion

There's the why did she ever go back with DB if she believed he physically and sexually abused their daughter?
Did she lie then in making the accusation about her daughter's father and if the jury believes she did lie over something so despicable then why would she not lie about the circumstances she killed him under?
That's become the false accusation some women use all too often now knowing it will at the very least put all visitation rights of the father on hold until it's investigated.

Another biggy for me is her description of what came down starting with her claimed shoulder
bumps by DB, a box into her side and her description of her running to her bedroom and having the time to retrieve her gun from a storage bin all before DB entered the room.
Doesn't look like a raging guy who hit her in the face (no marks left though) and ran after her in a way that she feared for her life.

So far I think the state and the defense put on cases that are lacking big time.
I see it as the state having their hands tied by the judge's rulings on evidence that can't come in and the defense conjuring up a self-defense trying to prove that AB was some innocent victim of an abuser when it's not difficult to see her cunning manipulations of DB, LE and the courts.

Facts vs emotions and what AB claims?
 
OK now I've watched it, I think Peter agrees with me more than I agree with myself!

I think she's guilty, but will probably be found innocent (of murder-2 at least, they might be able to get her on some sort of lesser included if they can get that jury instruction in), and I think they'll find her innocent because that "reconstruction" moment in cross examination was an attempt to impeach the defendant on the exact piece of evidence that I believe makes her guilty. And they failed to do so. Spectacularly!

I fully expected that cross examination to be a disaster for AB, instead it was a disaster for the State. She gave pretty good answers to many of the leading questions that O'Donnell put to her that I did not see coming at all. The only thing I can think of to compare it to was when Chris Darden asked OJ Simpson to try on the gloves. A practical demonstration in front of the jury borne out of sheer desperation, that backfired completely!

If she is acquitted, it will be because of that. moment.

MOO
I too thought of the OJ case and the glove!!
Demonstrations in front of a jury are very risky!!
 
I am so freaking confused on what's allowed in as evidence and what's not and what is and isn't being presented to the jury.
I was understanding that there was evidence DB abused their dog, hitting it and knocked it unconscious.

It does seem like the trial is filled with holes, yes?

This hearing is from a year ago,

Reading from the judge's oral ruling at the end of the hearing the court found no evidence of "animal cruelty" by Doug Benefield or any domestic violence,poisoning etc.
Interesting as the state is reading from the ruling it's mentioned that AB turned her tears on and off,
6:39 no animal cruelty

Judge Destroys Ballerina Over Poisoning, Domestic Abuse Claims Against Husband​


 
I too thought of the OJ case and the glove!!
Demonstrations in front of a jury are very risky!!
imo
She looked quite uncertain when she had tried to reenact the moves she claimed DB made that she felt endangered her life.
 
imo
She looked quite uncertain when she had tried to reenact the moves she claimed DB made that she felt endangered her life.

It is not surprising as
mentally shocking episodes may disrupt the lingering processing necessary for full storage of information in memory.
 

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