FL - Dr Teresa Sievers, 46, murdered in home, Bonita Springs, June 2015 #2

[TTF14]

Has anyone considered her work with the Transgender community as a motive? Maybe an angry ex spouse or someone who didn't share her accepting views on this issue? For those who aren't familiar with the area, it is mostly right leaning.

Yes, this has been brought up here.

 

[Orgona]

Yes, of course it's possible for someone to forget to set the alarm when they leave or even when they go to sleep. The logbook would show when it was armed and disarmed. You can go way back in time too.
It can be read on the screen of the device, they just need a valid code to enter the menu. The alarm company has an engineer code which they can use to log in if the engineer mode is turned on. If it isn't, then a code from the family(a code with high permissions) is needed to log into the menu. Then every log you need to find will become available.

Quoting myself to add something important:
The above is not my opinion, this is my experience with every alarm I personally encountered to this day. This doesn't mean that there couldn't be other type of systems. I have no idea of the alarm in TS's house was working this way too. I'm just assuming it.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Not being familiar with reiki, I read a few articles about it.

This one at Quack Watch pretty much sums it up:

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/reiki.html


About thirty years ago I had a neighbor who was in "alternative medicine". It was related to "supplements". She was charging people what I considered "an arm and a leg" for hair testing, the supplements themselves - because they could only get the "pure ones" from her. In addition, she provided paid "counseling" to her "patients", either in person or by telephone.

This woman totally believed in the value of this and was dismissive of "traditional medicine". She got into this through her chiropractor. To me it sounded like she a attracted people who were of the hypochondriac type of personality. But they paid.

Despite having NO medical background other than "seminars" she had paid to attend, she had a business card that had a ton of "initials" behind her name. At one point she proudly told me she had "earned her doctorate" and could now be called "Doctor". She actually began advertising her services in the local weekly newspaper as "Dr. So-and-so". Shortly thereafter, she was contacted by the state regulatory agency and had to stop advertising herself as "Doctor".

I think sometimes people become desperate for help when traditional medicine can not help them. And they are then vulnerable to "alternative" things. If these alternatives provide attention and assurance that "this will help you", that in itself may indeed help. Yes, it is likely the "placebo effect". But the placebo effect has been well studied and has been shown to be effective. It kind of boils down to how much do you want to pay to achieve the placebo effect.

 

[RedHeadLouLou]

what is the naem of the security company again???

ie found it.

if it is a wireless system it couldn't be cut from the outside. that's one of the benefits of the wireless systems.

 

[Leomoon80]

And pre-procedure bargaining can really cut down on the cost, if the MD knows the payment is on its way and he does not have to argue with an insurance company to get paid less than what his services are worth. Hospitals, too.

I'd see it as being "what he or she BELIEVES they are worth, or think they are worth" which is always insane, imo for the greed. Who is going to say their services are priced to enhance health only and the more who can afford the costs involved, the healthier the local population? Not many, imo.

 

[Leomoon80]

The reason to not accept insurance for most regular doctors is simply put, more money. I have an ongoing normal medical issue, including diagnosis, surgery and follow up treatments. I monitor all the bills sent to my insurance company and what is getting paid out. I have a good, company paid for insurance plan. So my situation is pretty average all around.
My point is that if an office visit charge is 250, my insurance pays out around 20 dollars, plus my co-payment.
If a surgery runs 17,000, my insurance pays out around 7000. And so on.

If no insurance is accepted, I would have to pay the billing rate, not the "insurance payment negotiated rate". Thus, if my Dr bills 250 for an office visit, and does not accept insurance - he would get 250 for my visit, and i would get 20 or so from the insurance company if I filed. Very different from accepting the rate the insurance company dictates.
I sincerely hope that people only go to a Dr that does not accept insurance when they really understand the financial realities of the difference. And I strongly hope that this does not become a trend, as it would be ruinous to our already fragile healthcare in this country. We already pay way more than other countries that have much better coverage, and better outcomes.
And please knock off the pharma bashing. It's a for-profit industry, like any other. If people want to see them act in the interest of patients first, then socialize medical care. Otherwise, profits are the only thing that should matter to a drug company. It's the law regulating all publicly traded companies that their only obligation is to the shareholders.

You said what I feel, very well. To the point of what is wrong with this country's so-called health care system.

On Medicare unless one pays for the super-duper expensive HMO fees, one (and their spouses) will suffer the added indignity of McHealth care. A one-size 5minute fits all. But I do think this case was about greed/lust as speculated earlier and on the past posts.

The fact the husband was seen breaking down in the street outside of the home a few times now, seems unlikely he knows who this was either, except "by chance"...meaning, a patient, ex patient, someone who TS knew. Perhaps a disgruntled patient holding her at fault for his / her unhappiness now thereby justifying the hammer death.

 

[human]

I believe in alternative medicine. Lots of the world uses it. My understanding is Prince Charles uses homeopathy. I have seen alternatives work, but then again, the person may have been on the verge of healing anyway.

Because I have been into alternatives for years but going to a traditional doctor, I have seen the claims of totally unqualified people.

There is a lot of money to be made in alternatives because there are really no regulations, are there?

I have seen this in resorts in foreign countries. I wonder how many really have training in massage, for instance,

 

[oceanblueeyes]

When the Sheriff gave his overly dramatic PC by the way he acted then I thought for sure he already knew who the suspect was going to be. Since so much time has past since then I am not sure I believe that anymore.

So I am putting back in a home invasion as one of the possibilities.

Home invaders have targeted homes before where they believed the occupants were on vacation leaving the home unoccupied at the time. I just think it is a possibility. They could have planned to use the claw end of the hammer to gain entry through the door by jimmying it open. It would be a perfect tool to pry the door open. Once inside he may not have known Dr. Teresa was inside of the home and when she saw him she screamed for him to get out and instead of retreating he hit her with the hammer killing her. After killing her he could have gotten spooked and left without taking anything.

The Husted parents were murdered and also found in their kitchen. They did not know the invader was inside the home until they saw him already inside. They did not know him. He was a total stranger to them. Once he knew they could ID him he killed them both.

Also in that case LE came out quickly like this Sheriff did and said the murders weren't random implying they were murdered by someone they knew. In fact over the years LE is several jurisdictions have told the communities a certain murder/s weren't random when that turned out not to be the truth.

If the Sheriff really had evidence of who was involved there would have been an arrest by now. Bludgeoning crime scenes are very brutal but they often yield the most evidence due to the bloody nature of the crime.

It would almost be impossible for him to not leave something of himself behind whether it was a bloody fingerprint, hairs, fibers, DNA or bloody shoeprints. Either the hammer was left at the scene or the ME thinks the wounds sustained are the exact pattern of the head of a hammer which will make round depression crush injuries to the skull.

IMO

 

[SuzDuJour]

IF the killer entered the house with the dr, it would mean that:

• he probably stayed the night, but waited until early morning (when she was getting ready for work) to kill her
• he staged the break-in (the jimmied side door) as no need to break in, if he was already in the house
• OR, he didn't stay the night, but left, only to return and break into the house

It is in the realm of possibility that she could've intentionally picked up someone on her way home from the airport and the argument didn't happen until early morning (could also explain why LE is processing her van).

 

[Falcon500]

When the Sheriff gave his overly dramatic PC by the way he acted then I thought for sure he already knew who the suspect was going to be. Since so much time has past since then I am not sure I believe that anymore.

So I am putting back in a home invasion as one of the possibilities.

Home invaders have targeted homes before where they believed the occupants were on vacation leaving the home unoccupied at the time. I just think it is a possibility. They could have planned to use the claw end of the hammer to gain entry through the door by jimmying it open. It would be a perfect tool to pry the door open. Once inside he may not have known Dr. Teresa was inside of the home and when she saw him she screamed for him to get out and instead of retreating he hit her with the hammer killing her. After killing her he could have gotten spooked and left without taking anything.

The Husted parents were murdered and also found in their kitchen. They did not know the invader was inside the home until they saw him already inside. They did not know him. He was a total stranger to them. Once he knew they could ID him he killed them both.

Also in that case LE came out quickly like this Sheriff did and said the murders weren't random implying they were murdered by someone they knew. In fact over the years LE is several jurisdictions have told the communities a certain murder/s weren't random when that turned out not to be the truth.

If the Sheriff really had evidence of who was involved there would have been an arrest by now. Bludgeoning crime scenes are very brutal but they often yield the most evidence due to the bloody nature of the crime.

It would almost be impossible for him to not leave something of himself behind whether it was a bloody fingerprint, hairs, fibers, DNA or bloody shoeprints. Either the hammer was left at the scene or the ME thinks the wounds sustained are the exact pattern of the head of a hammer which will make round depression crush injuries to the skull.

IMO

A "home invasion", in law enforcement parlance, is an event where one or more people enter an occupied home by force. The victims are usually businessmen who are known to keep large amounts of cash at home, drug dealers who may or may not call the police, or others who are known to keep expensive items in their homes,

What you are describing is a common burglary that turned violent and ended up with a murder.

 

[MyBelle]

A "home invasion", in law enforcement parlance, is an event where one or more people enter an occupied home by force. The victims are usually businessmen who are known to keep large amounts of cash at home, drug dealers who may or may not call the police, or others who are known to keep expensive items in their homes,

What you are describing is a common burglary that turned violent and ended up with a murder.

I'm also not aware that LE has said anything is missing from the home as would be expected if it were a burglary.

This crime strikes me as being one of retaliation similar to the Creighton murders, where Dr. Anthony Garcia waited years and then targeted the Creighton faculty in retaliation for terminating his residency.

JMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

A "home invasion", in law enforcement parlance, is an event where one or more people enter an occupied home by force. The victims are usually businessmen who are known to keep large amounts of cash at home, drug dealers who may or may not call the police, or others who are known to keep expensive items in their homes,

What you are describing is a common burglary that turned violent and ended up with a murder.

I respectfully disagree. Anyone, no matter their social status can be a victim of a home invasion and have been... from the very rich to the very poor.

Dr. Teresa's home was invaded by force, was it not? And home invasions affecting all people and all races are on the rise. Over the last year or so in the surrounding counties around where I live there have been numerous people who have been victims of home invasions. Some killed, some raped, some seriously injured, and almost beaten to death before the invaders robbed them, and left.

IMO

 

[human]

The early hour makes no sense as people are waking up.

Like everyone has said, a middle of the night makes more sense,

 

[Luvrosco]

I agree, human.

 

[makayla]

The early hour makes no sense as people are waking up.

Like everyone has said, a middle of the night makes more sense,

This is what doesn't make sense to me either, assuming that the neighbors really did here a shrill scream and arguing in the hour or so before daylight. We are basing a lot of assumptions on their reports.

If someone was going to rob your house in the dark, it makes more sense to do it towards the middle of the night so they have time to make a getaway while still dark.

As far as the jimmied door goes, if this was done between the time when TS arrived home to the time of her murder, I wonder why the dogs didn't bark? Of course, my dogs as they got older lost their hearing and I often said they would never hear anyone come in!

Assuming that nothing was taken from the home, either the robber entered not expecting anyone to be there and fled right after the murder or it was not a robbery in the first place. I am still leaning towards a planned, targeted murder, even though a hammer is not a very common way of killing someone - I know there have been a few cases where a hammer was used, so maybe it was because someone didn't have a gun, or they didn't want the sound of the gun to be heard, or didn't like the thought of stabbing someone multiple times. A hammer does, however, seem like a rage and personal killing like a knife.

I'm still puzzled by not hearing any pleas whatsoever from the doctor's husband about finding who murdered his wife.

Just my personal opinions and thoughts ...

ETA: I don't know if it's been confirmed that the weapon was a hammer, it could have been just something that the neighbors reported from sources (???)

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The early hour makes no sense as people are waking up.

Like everyone has said, a middle of the night makes more sense,

It doesn't make more sense that is for sure. But a lot of crimes don't make sense.

But I have seen a shift when crimes are happening. If it was robbery or burglary even of a bank/store/home it use to happen during the night with no one around. But now criminals are robbing in the very early morning hours and plenty of them even in broad daylight now all through the day.

Even home invasions are happening at various times of the day. Some are still targeting victims around midnight to 3 am or so. In the counties around mine they seem to be targeting the elderly and young people and show up at their door all times of day and night pretending to need help of some kind. Most of those though use a female as bait to get the homeowner to open up the door.

There doesn't seem to be a set time anymore when they will strike It is startling just how many people are too trusting (young and old) and will open their door to someone they don't know. And, yes, I am considered elderly myself, and live in a very safe neighborhood but even I know it isn't wise to open my door to anyone who is a stranger. Sometimes I do feel bad about it because I am sure some really do need help of some kind.. Nowadays though just about everyone has a cell phone and has a way to seek help.

Did the side door lead into her kitchen area since they said she was supposedly murdered in her kitchen? If it didn't lead into her kitchen it tends to make me think she may not have known he was inside until it was too late and she was up and in her kitchen maybe making coffee to start the day. I think he could have quietly jimmied the door open where she may not have heard it.

IMO

 

[CoolJ]

Not being familiar with reiki, I read a few articles about it.

This one at Quack Watch pretty much sums it up:

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/reiki.html


About thirty years ago I had a neighbor who was in "alternative medicine". It was related to "supplements". She was charging people what I considered "an arm and a leg" for hair testing, the supplements themselves - because they could only get the "pure ones" from her. In addition, she provided paid "counseling" to her "patients", either in person or by telephone.

This woman totally believed in the value of this and was dismissive of "traditional medicine". She got into this through her chiropractor. To me it sounded like she a attracted people who were of the hypochondriac type of personality. But they paid.

Despite having NO medical background other than "seminars" she had paid to attend, she had a business card that had a ton of "initials" behind her name. At one point she proudly told me she had "earned her doctorate" and could now be called "Doctor". She actually began advertising her services in the local weekly newspaper as "Dr. So-and-so". Shortly thereafter, she was contacted by the state regulatory agency and had to stop advertising herself as "Doctor".

I think sometimes people become desperate for help when traditional medicine can not help them. And they are then vulnerable to "alternative" things. If these alternatives provide attention and assurance that "this will help you", that in itself may indeed help. Yes, it is likely the "placebo effect". But the placebo effect has been well studied and has been shown to be effective. It kind of boils down to how much do you want to pay to achieve the placebo effect.

Everyone who uses "alternative medicine" is not desperate.
I find it funny when folks talk about allopathic medicine as being "traditional". Umm nope, it is the traditional medicines that we now call alternative.
Also, not sure at all what that post has to do with reiki

 

[Keefer]

Your deepest sleep is in the later stages of your sleep cycle. The authorities often serve warrants at this time (5 am or so )because people are likely to be disoriented when roused from a deep sleep.
Home invasions do typically involve more than one perp and they are after something they know is in the home.
This appears to be something else. There are burglars who like it "hot", but this is rare and they are often rapists. Home invasions are rare too. I've known plenty of folks who have been burgled including myself. All of them were "cold" daytime burglaries when no one was home.

 

[kammiemc]

Your deepest sleep is in the later stages of your sleep cycle. The authorities often serve warrants at this time (5 am or so )because people are likely to be disoriented when roused from a deep sleep.
Home invasions do typically involve more than one perp and they are after something they know is in the home.
This appears to be something else. There are burglars who like it "hot", but this is rare and they are often rapists. Home invasions are rare too. I've known plenty of folks who have been burgled including myself. All of them were "cold" daytime burglaries when no one was home.

I read once that break ins for the purpose of sexual attacks happen in early morning. Like from 4-7. (I think?) I was surprised. Assuming that most attackers aren't aware of the sleep cycle, is it just that they get riled up all night and finally get their nerve up? This is an open question. (IMO burglary is wildly different from an attack, especially a planned one!)

 

[No it's not]

Why did the perp leave the hammer?

I have to assume LE is in possession of such hammer, if this was indeed the murder weapon. How else would they know the victim had been attacked with a hammer? They must be sure about the murder weapon and the way it happened. Otherwise the body of Dr Sievers would not have been cremated, right?

So, why did the unsub leave the hammer?

-No it's not