FL - Dr Teresa Sievers, 46, murdered in home, Bonita Springs, June 2015 *ARRESTS* #8

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Given how much CWW and MS look alike, I feel its possible that the neighbor saw CWW going into JR's place.
I understand there is a height difference but unless standing together, she may not take that into consideration

JMO
 
What if this crime was not supposed to go the way it did.
IMO if this guy was hired to kill TS there was really not much thought put into it.
I think CWW would have been a little more careful so this would not all come back to bite him in the butt. All roads led back to them. and it seems quickly!

I don't think they would have been taking pictures together and hanging out together.
The guy spoke to his boss and told him he was in Fla.
He went into Walmart!

Something does not fit.
So why was <modsnip>in a protective suit when the murder occurred? Seems like premeditated to me. IMO.
 
So why was Hammer in a protective suit when the murder occurred? Seems like premeditated to me. IMO.

Was he?
he had the suit but I don't recall anyone seeing him in it.

Am I incorrect?
Is there video of him wearing it?
 
In one of the links posted yesterday it said that Rodgers asked his attorney about Florida's three strike rule. I find that very odd. Does anyone have a link of that article?
 
So why was Hammer in a protective suit when the murder occurred? Seems like premeditated to me. IMO.

Seems like first degree murder to me too, but as someone posted previously they can always change that charge later etc...
 
Right? I don't think I would be functioning well enough to do anything, let alone keep a practice running and be the point person for patients calls. It's odd that he could do all that, and even have it together enough to take out the trash, but he can't even call his wife's family after the arrest was made of two of her killers. I was wondering what he was doing during this time while waiting to see if and when he will be arrested. Watching old movies? Working out? Madden 16? Nope! Cleaning!

Absolutely! This guys personality is a carbon copy of Scott Peterson. Tbh I do not see anything attractive about this guy looks or personality .. My point is TS was a shining star beauty radiated from inside and outside her love is seen in photos not just for her family but for her patients too. I'm guessing ms woo'd and con'd her and locked her into a marriage seriously look at the photo that made it into the magazine of the family .. It looks like TS is so uneasy pulling away from ms.. She took stunning photos and that one .. One with her husband and children to me screams uneasy
 
Was he?
he had the suit but I don't recall anyone seeing him in it.

Am I incorrect?
Is there video of him wearing it?

You are correct. We assumed it was him but that hasn't been verified. Someone else could have "borrowed" it.
 
To me it looked like he barely hanging on by a thread emotionally. Holding it in and trying not to explode. Almost like he's going through the motions of life only because he has to? It's hard to read since people are so very different

Regardless of his guilt or innocence (I am definitely leaning the way most people are) he is being tailed by reporters and certainly LE and he is basically a sitting duck, probably terrified of the next knock on the door. He's all over the media and people are speculating that he hired his best friend and JR to kill his wife. And the sheriff is far from denying it, and in fact, won't even say that the guy is cooperating. That's got to be pretty stressful. He really did look like he might explode. Or implode.
 
This was posted yesterday, and there were discussions about when MS was there... I found below written article for follow up. (wish that reporter would follow-up on our discussions of WHEN :giggle:)


OP was Riversinthedesert


Breaking on WINK re: JR

Breaking on WINK...JR sentenced to 6 months for probation violation. He stated in court he does not know the Sievers or anyone else in FL. But neighbor said he saw Mark Sievers at JR's trailer!

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Update:

Suspect in Sievers murder will serve 6 months in federal prison By Sam Smink/ AP &#8226; September 2, 2015 Video and article

http://www.winknews.com/2015/09/02/missouri-man-accused-in-florida-doctors-death-in-court/

"Rodgers told his attorney Wednesday, he didn&#8217;t know &#8220;those people in Florida,&#8221; referring to Mark and Teresa Sievers.

Deputies have not said whether Rodgers and Teresa&#8217;s husband Mark knew each other. But Rodgers&#8217; neighbor in Missouri says she&#8217;s seen Mark Sievers at Rodgers&#8217; trailer before."

Well, well, well.....
 
Stltoday.com has the story about JR asking his attny about the three strike law in Florida. Sorry I can't figure out how to link from my phone. I'm curious why he would ask because common sense would tell you that doesn't apply to a murder
 
Regardless of his guilt or innocence (I am definitely leaning the way most people are) he is being tailed by reporters and certainly LE and he is basically a sitting duck, probably terrified of the next knock on the door. He's all over the media and people are speculating that he hired his best friend and Hammer to kill his wife. And the sheriff is far from denying it, and in fact, won't even say that the guy is cooperating. That's got to be pretty stressful. He really did look like he might explode. Or implode.

And knowing any words out of his mouth would be dissected and interpreted at least 20 different ways. No win situation. Hell, we even dissect the "no comment".
 
Right? I don't think I would be functioning well enough to do anything, let alone keep a practice running and be the point person for patients calls. It's odd that he could do all that, and even have it together enough to take out the trash, but he can't even call his wife's family after the arrest was made of two of her killers. I was wondering what he was doing during this time while waiting to see if and when he will be arrested. Watching old movies? Working out? Madden 16? Nope! Cleaning!

Not to mention what practice is he running when he directs the patients to contact his personal cell, which he has now shut off following the arrests of his buddy and the sidekick
 
Given how much CWW and MS look alike, I feel its possible that the neighbor saw CWW going into JR's place.
I understand there is a height difference but unless standing together, she may not take that into consideration

JMO

Unless the neighbor also saw WW there on one or more occasions. I read somewhere that JR and WW were pretty close and the pics make it seem like he spent at least some time with JR. And the girlfriend. Seems reasonable that they they might visit each other's trailers. Didn't a neighbor say JR had bbq's? Seems like the neighbors could be familiar with WW and so able to see that MS is a different person. Just s thought!
 
Seems like first degree murder to me too, but as someone posted previously they can always change that charge later etc...

The reason for the 2nd degree charges have been explained. In FL only a grand jury can bring forth 1st degree charges, the case hasn't gone to a GJ yet but it will and I'd expect the charges to then change accordingky
 
Unless the neighbor also saw WW there on one or more occasions. I read somewhere that JR and WW were pretty close and the pics make it seem like he spent at least some time with JR. And the girlfriend. Seems reasonable that they they might visit each other's trailers. Didn't a neighbor say JR had bbq's? Seems like the neighbors could be familiar with WW and so able to see that MS is a different person. Just s thought!

Its been mentioned here numerous times how much MS and CWW look alike
I tend to agree with the comments. i think the resemblance is uncanny.
So I can see how someone who was not close with either of them(I am assuming that the neighbor was not)could now, after all the media, be confused as to which one had been there

And for all i know, Mark could have visited regularly
JMO
 
And knowing any words out of his mouth would be dissected and interpreted at least 20 different ways. No win situation. Hell, we even dissect the "no comment".

He has had plenty of time to say something thoughtful to the media. Or even to TS's family. He could speak through them, or through his lawyer. He is clamming up for a reason and I kind of doubt it's only because he's been demonized. He could SO easily clear his name, or at least give it the old college try. He knows it's coming.
 
....OP was Riversinthedesert

Breaking on WINK re: JR

Breaking on WINK...JR sentenced to 6 months for probation violation. He stated in court he does not know the Sievers or anyone else in FL. But neighbor said he saw Mark Sievers at JR's trailer! ....

sbm bbm Just going by ^ this post, without having read link.

In saying 'anyone else' did JR ack. having told his work supervisor/manager that he knew his bro in FL, the bro whose law school graduation event he attended? thx in adv.
 
The reason for the 2nd degree charges have been explained. In FL only a grand jury can bring forth 1st degree charges, the case hasn't gone to a GJ yet but it will and I'd expect the charges to then change accordingky

Thanks I try to keep up but can't possibly without being on here 24/7. So maybe you can answer if you know..who took Dr Sievers place at her practice? I read that they re-opened right away but did they hire a new person or someone else to take her place? TIA
 
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He has had plenty of time to say something thoughtful to the media. Or even to TS's family. He could speak through them, or through his lawyer. He is clamming up for a reason and I kind of doubt it's because he's been demonized. He could SO easily clear his name, or at least give it the old college try.

Agree. LE could also, so easily, say how cooperative he is being and how he is not a POI. But they aren't.
 
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