My husband as I mentioned flies commercially. He has been overnighting this week in FLL. A sheriff at the airport said the shooter emptied two clips and laid on the ground. Cops arrived at 80 seconds. 20 shots total. I havent followed ever post yet, so I don't know if it has been released. Just thought I would share.
FL - Five killed, 8 wounded in shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport, 6 Jan 2017
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At the risk of sounding " mentally incompetent " revisiting the zombie + Star wars/trek thing and wondering if ES was reenacting a scene?
Just a speculation, imo.
http://people.com/crime/multiple-sh...e-hollywood-international-airport-in-florida/
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fo...ale-airport-shooting-iraq-20170110-story.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0572218/
Just a speculation, imo.
http://people.com/crime/multiple-sh...e-hollywood-international-airport-in-florida/
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fo...ale-airport-shooting-iraq-20170110-story.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0572218/
i have no idea what drives these people, but they cant stop saying that they believe he was posting on middle eastern pro-jihad forums for years and that that makes them believe he was a secret ISIS soldier for 10 years yet when they have a chance to discuss these claims they have nothing to say, i would expect that they couldnt wait to talk about all the evidence that made them come to that serious conclusion...
Same people who say Sandy Hook was a conspiracy?
What slays me is that there are those who shout about conspiracy and why isn't the media reporting his jihadi forum posts and what are they covering up when really... there's just no evidence he did any of that. all jmo
it is weird to me too but i guess it's the new normal... its at least sort of understandable when the claim comes from a reputable source but the evidence isnt detailed, then you can get how people would tend to believe it is true, but when the "evidence" comes from sources that are regularly proven to engage in fake news, and the "evidence" is actually easily located on the internet and anyone can go look at it for themselves and see that it doesnt support the claims, that is what is so perplexing.
1. Q: Did job require Santiago to be licensed as a sec guard, per AK statutes? If this law was in effect at time he worked there, yes, imo.
As an employee of a 'Sec Guard Agency' https://signal88.com/security-services/ looks like Santiago patrolled multiple properties across the city (per co-worker's stmt in http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Before-airport-rampage-Esteban-Santiago-patrolled-the-businesses-of-Anchorage-410340845.html) so AK law would req. S/Gd license for him.
"Article 05. SECURITY GUARDS
Sec. 18.65.400. License as security guard.A person may not be employed as a security guard or security guard agency until the person has obtained a license from the commissioner of public safety under AS 18.65.400 - 18.65.490."
"Sec. 18.65.490. Definitions. In AS 18.65.400 - 18.65.490,....
(2) "security guard" means a person in the business of being a private watchman, providing patrol services, or providing other services designed to prevent the theft, misappropriation, or concealment of goods, money, or valuable documents;
(3) "security guard agency" means a person in the business of furnishing for hire private watchmen, patrol services, or other services designed to prevent the theft, misappropriation, or concealment of goods, money, or valuable documents." bbm sbm
2. Q: Would Santiago be exempt from AK license reqmt under this section? No, imo.
"Sec. 18.65.460. Exceptions to licensure. An employer is not required to seek licensure for the employer's employees who provide unarmed plant security on that employer's premises."
^ Seems this applies to a widget factory hiring, as employees, its own sec/gd to patrol its plant or to Walmart hiring employees to check Walmart premises, etc. , so those employers are not req'd to seek S/Gd licenses for thoseemployees. From co-workers' description, their jobs were not patrolling just a single site. ^ exemption is for employers, not employees. Also, applies only if S/Gd is unarmed.
S/Gds carrying firearms must have firearms training, per -
"Sec. 18.65.470. Firearms training. Security guards licensed under AS 18.65.400 - 18.65.490 may not be armed with a firearm for the purpose of protecting property until they have completed firearms training acceptable to the c
ommissioner." bbm
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Also, statutory definitions for above.
"Sec. 18.65.490. Definitions. In AS 18.65.400 - 18.65.490,
....
(2) "security guard" means a person in the business of being a private watchman, providing patrol services, or providing other services designed to prevent the theft, misappropriation, or concealment of goods, money, or valuable documents;
(3) "security guard agency" means a person in the business of furnishing for hire private watchmen, patrol services, or other services designed to prevent the theft, misappropriation, or concealment of goods, money, or valuable documents." bbm
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The first thing that popped in my mind was how similar he looked to Spock. No way to know what he was thinking. MOO
Also, a quote from Spock...
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On court paperwork in a city case, Santiago still lists the 1200 W. Dimond Boulevard address and identifies his his employer as Signal 88 Security, with a workplace of 188 W. Northern Lights. A man who answered the Alaska-based number for Signal 88 declined to talk to reporters, citing "the advisement of federal authorities."
http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Est...409954315.html
bbm, This is what I would like to know what caused them to contact the fbi?, what did he say/do that would cause an employer to contact the fbi? And at this time they, (signal 88 are the only ones that have been advised by federal authorities not to talk. hmmm
His supervisors at Signal 88 were apparently concerned about things he had expressed - so concerned that they brought him to the attention of the FBI office in Anchorage.
http://abc13.com/news/what-we-know-a...unman/1689929/
The Pentagon said Santiago had gone AWOL several times during his stint with the Alaska National Guard and was demoted - from specialist to private first class - and given a general discharge, which is lower than an honorable discharge.
https://signal88.com/about-us/employee-path/
http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Est...409954315.html
bbm, This is what I would like to know what caused them to contact the fbi?, what did he say/do that would cause an employer to contact the fbi? And at this time they, (signal 88 are the only ones that have been advised by federal authorities not to talk. hmmm
His supervisors at Signal 88 were apparently concerned about things he had expressed - so concerned that they brought him to the attention of the FBI office in Anchorage.
http://abc13.com/news/what-we-know-a...unman/1689929/
The Pentagon said Santiago had gone AWOL several times during his stint with the Alaska National Guard and was demoted - from specialist to private first class - and given a general discharge, which is lower than an honorable discharge.
https://signal88.com/about-us/employee-path/
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Things that make you say...hmmmm! I'm certain they didn't report him to the FBI because he was slacking at work.
if someone at my work said they were being mind-controlled by the CIA and forced to watch ISIS videos i would certainly contact someone, so something along those lines makes sense.
its interesting that the investigation has already dismissed the idea that he has been a secret muslim convert and budding ISIS terrorist since he was 16.
its interesting that the investigation has already dismissed the idea that he has been a secret muslim convert and budding ISIS terrorist since he was 16.
It was likely because he was telling people he was being mind controlled by the CIA to watch ISIS videos.
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Since Friday’s shooting, Piro has been careful to say no evidence linking Santiago to terrorism has been found but such connections have also not been ruled out.
January 9, 2017, 10:31 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-age...ort-shooting-esteban-santiago-saddam-hussein/
“It’s way too early in the investigation. We’re looking over all of his social media, things like that. It’s giving us a picture of the individual, but it’s way too early for us to rule out anything,” Piro said Saturday. “We’re pursuing all angles on what prompted him to carry out this horrific attack.”
bbm
that is from three days ago, what i posted is from yesterday. i think its already linked here, if it isnt i will find it.
edit - just for clarity, the report i am quoting doesnt say they have ruled out terrorism either, of course they havent ruled it out
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/article126025249.html
"Federal investigators say they have found nothing on his computer or social media feeds to suggest any links to Muslim extremists and they have dismissed an unsubstantiated Internet narrative that Esteban had converted to the religion as a teen and had secretly become a radicalized terrorist."
"Federal investigators say they have found nothing on his computer or social media feeds to suggest any links to Muslim extremists and they have dismissed an unsubstantiated Internet narrative that Esteban had converted to the religion as a teen and had secretly become a radicalized terrorist."
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bbm, Honestly- This is the first I have seen this. I did notice it says, "internet narrative" and not msm. jmo
im not sure what you mean re: internet narrative vs. msm?
those claims only exist as an "internet narrative" and MSM has reported that those claims exist and are unsubstantiated, now they have been dismissed by the investigators on the case.
It was from the internet narrative that MSM got it and reported it.