GUILTY FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen #17

[alexwood]

Georgia must always be working! She's gotta be exhausted. Now she's got to wait in her office or be within 10 minutes of the courthouse for a verdict. One time I was just watching a random youtube trial and I heard a voice I recognized. Then I realized it was the same prosecutor from the Dan Markel trials who I now know as GC.

Oh, heck. She probably has an inflatable mattress in her office and it is outfitted with comfy and cozy sheets and blankets. Fluffy down-filled pillow, etc.

 

[alexwood]

While waiting for a verdict and if you're really interested...

Bardstown man was among Manson Family victims​

Bardstown man was among Manson Family victims

Charles Manson, who died last week at the age of 83, shocked the world and gained notoriety for the August 1969 murders of eight people his followers carried out on

www.the-messenger.com

Thank you! I am up from delving into this. Something to occupy my time between scrubbing the kitchen floor, wrapping Christmas presents, and setting my mouse traps, whilst we all wait for a verdict.

 

[serifina]

Georgia must always be working! She's gotta be exhausted. Now she's got to wait in her office or be within 10 minutes of the courthouse for a verdict. One time I was just watching a random youtube trial and I heard a voice I recognized. Then I realized it was the same prosecutor from the Dan Markel trials who I now know as GC.

Yea. I’ve seen her on 20/20 being interviewed for other cases throughout the years. She successfully prosecuted dr Adam Frasch a few years ago

 

[B4igo2it]

I get the feeling CA does not like Rash throwing Katie under the bus .... that's when he licks his lips, pursed lips, and blinks like hell. He knows he is betraying his ally. What a guy.

 

[texaslb218]

Rash is yawning and also laughing with Charlie.

I saw that and thought it was beyond offensive to Mr. Markel.

 

[userunnamed]

Oh, heck. She probably has an inflatable mattress in her office and it is outfitted with comfy and cozy sheets and blankest. Fluffy down-filled pillow, etc.

ahahahah probably! I hope when she retires from this gig she gets made partner somewhere or starts her own firm and lives a less stressful life. Being a prosecutors gotta be tough.

Tallahassee appears to have a high number of high-profile cases relative to its population size. Or maybe it's because so many are streamed? Or maybe it's just because it's Florida (sorry Florida people--I love you).

 

[Sustained]

Georgia must always be working! She's gotta be exhausted. Now she's got to wait in her office or be within 10 minutes of the courthouse for a verdict. One time I was just watching a random youtube trial and I heard a voice I recognized. Then I realized it was the same prosecutor from the Dan Markel trials who I now know as GC.

Georgia's great but anything other than a guilty verdict will have me thinking the State needed a more demonstrative prosecutor like Kelly Siegler.

 

[Gypsy Road]

Thank you! I am up from delving into this. Something to occupy my time between scrubbing the kitchen floor, wrapping Christmas presents, and setting my mouse traps, whilst we all wait for a verdict.

Me too! I got my entire downstairs cleaned and uncluttered listening to this trial. I rarely left the house during court hours because I didn’t want to miss anything! My kitchen floor has never been so clean lol. And YAY ….closing arguments are over, so I’m off to goodwill in a hurry so I won’t try to “rescue” anything I put in the goodwill bags while the jury deliberates!

I wonder how long they will deliberate?

 

[Wishbone]

IMO The facts of this case as stated by the state are what the jury should be focused on. IMO these facts were well presented and CA's web of convoluted lies should carry no weight. They are just his feeble attempt to get away with murder and continue "la dolce vita" without remorse or responsibility for the murder he took part in. Now we wait for the verdict.

 

[Blue Shakehead]

"Now because of the State's high burden of proof, they get another closing. And I don't get to speak again. So I need each and every one of you - when they are speaking - to think in your minds: "What would Rashbaum say?"

Lol.

 

[lauraoh]

Ahhh... good question. If no deliberations tomorrow... maybe they will decide today, not wanting to return on Wed.

There are no elections in Florida tomorrow - at least not in Leon County.

 

[TheLoadedGoat]

IMO The facts of this case as stated by the state are what the jury should be focused on. IMO these facts were well presented and CA's web of convoluted lies should carry no weight. They are just his feeble attempt to get away with murder and continue "la dolce vita" without remorse or responsibility for the murder he took part in. Now we wait for the verdict.

I see what ya did there Wishbone! LOL

 

[TheLoadedGoat]

Does Charlie grt to chat with his atty or is he required to be in a holding cell during deliberations. I doubt Dan wants to listen to him regurgitate the evidence.

 

[Seattle1]

LIVE BLOG- P.M.: Closing arguments begin in Charlie Adelson trial​

Published: Nov. 6, 2023

1:48: Jury begins deliberations​

The jury is now deliberating in the murder-for-hire trial of Charlie Adelson.

1:44: Jury instructions​

Judge Everett is giving jurors instructions about how deliberations should be conducted.

1:43: Cappleman finishes rebuttal​

“The defendant is smart. And they had over a year to plan this murder with the goal of not getting caught. And he’s had 7 years to think about his defense,” Cappleman says.

“Only one of us is putting on a magic show. It’s up to y’all to figure out which one it is.”

She finishes rebuttal at 1:43 p.m.

1:25: State’s rebuttal​

Cappleman again questions why Charlie would give gifts to Magbanua if she was extorting him.

Cappleman agrees “Katherine Magbanua is a liar.” But, Cappleman says, Magbanua’s prior testimony didn’t fit with the other evidence.

“No one has stronger feelings about Katheirne Magbanua than the ones sitting on this side.”

“Would I ask you to base this defendant’s freedom on the word of Katherine Magbanua? I would never do that.”

Cappleman continues “they really need y’all to discount the testimony of Jeffrey Lacasse, right? Because of that statement Wendi made to him just before the murder.”

Lacasse testified that Wendi told him Charlie had seriously looked into hiring a hit man.

1:24: “They don’t get the last word. You do.”​

“There is only one just verdict in this case,” Rashbaum says, approaching the jury. “Count 1, not guilty. Count 2, not guilty. Count 3, not guilty. End this nightmare. Send him home. Thank you, your honor.”

The defense finishes its closing argument at 1:25 p.m. Georgia Cappleman begins the state’s rebuttal immediately after.

1:19: “A case of guesses and assumptions.”​

Rashbaum tells jurors they are allowed to speculate when they go back into the jury room. Cappleman objects to that and Judge Everett calls them for a sidebar conversation.

“The presumption of innocence means that we presume the best about people. We presume them to be blameless. That means when you’re listening to these wires, if there are two possible explanations, you go with the one that is favorable to Charlie.”

Rashbaum tells jurors “When you have two explanations, both of them reasonable, you go with the one that presumes his innocence. That’s how our system works.”

“If you waver at all, that is living, breathing proof of reasonable doubt. And when you find yourself doing that, you must find Charlie Adelson not guilty. Because that is reasonable doubt and shows that the state did not meet its burden.”

1:00: Dolce Vita​

On why Charlie didn’t go to the police about the extortion, Rashbaum says, “He had just seen what had happened to Professor Markel. He knew the danger of these people.

“You wonder why he is talking the way he’s talking in Dolce Vita. He’s freaking out. He thinks his mom, if they don’t pay, is going to get killed.”

Rashbaum further addresses the Dolce Vita recording, saying “there is no code. But we can agree on this: they’re talking carefully.”

Rashbaum says Adelson speaks carefully with Magbanua because he needs her help and doesn’t want to spook her. When he speaks carefully with Donna Adelson, Rashbaum says it’s because he doesn’t want anyone, including police, to find out about the first extortion.

12:50:​

Talking about Luis Rivera, Rashbaum says, “He’s an animal, but he was truthful.”

Rashbaum says about the fact that Charlie called his parents’ landline the day of the murder -- “It means absolutely nothing … it’s grasping at straws.”

“It’s like magic. It’s like they’re putting on a magic show. Use your common sense.”

12:30: “He didn’t flee or hide.”​

Rashbaum points out that none of the Adelsons got burner phones and called the agent from the bump with their cell phones.

“We don’t disagree that the murder of Markel was horrific. They showed you those pictures today. I can’t look at them. These people who killed him were animals.”

Rashbaum argues that Adelson and his team have no idea how Katherine Magbanua and Sigfredo Garcia knew where Markel lived and when he would be out of town.

Jeffrey Lacasse was “a jilted lover who was stalking Wendi Adelson,” Rashbaum says. Rashbaum says Lacasse was angry because he thought the family was trying to frame him for Markel’s murder, and his testimony was shaped by that.

”His testimony makes no sense, is biased and should be discounted as nonsense.”

12:07: Addressing Magbanua’s testimony​

Rashbaum apologizes if any jurors were offended by the tone he used when cross-examining Katherine Magbanua. “I’m passionate, and I believe in the system,” Rashbaum says. “And the one thing I hate is when someone comes in this courtroom and lies. I hate even more when a murderer comes in this courtroom and lies.”

The state “called a woman who lied under oath in her first trial, they called a woman who lied under oath in her first trial … but worse, they called a woman who just a year ago lied during her proffers.”

“The bottom line is, Charlie Adelson was conned. On the night of the 18th, he was scared. He didn’t think she was part of it. He thought she was protecting him.”

Rashbaum asks why the state didn’t ask Magbanua any questions about the wires or call her back to the stand in rebuttal after Charlie’s testimony. He says it’s because even the state can’t trust Magbanua. “The truth is, even they have doubt … that’s why it took them six years after her arrest to even charge Charlie Adelson.”

“Ask yourself, ‘Why were they so afraid to ask her any of those questions?’”

11:59: “You don’t have to like Charlie Adelson.”​

Rashbaum says it doesn’t make sense for Charlie to joke about hiring a hit man repeatedly if he was actually going to do it.

“Criminals do not advertise what they are about to do,” he says. “That makes no sense.”

Rashbaum also questions why a payment wasn’t made up front if Markel’s murder was a hit.

11:52: Puzzle pieces​

Rashbaum points out that at the time of both murder attempts, Markel had custody of the kids.

“Does that make any sense?” Rashbaum asks.

“There’s no chance, if these people were behind the murder, that they would take any risk that those boys would be in the cross-hairs.”

Just a couple weeks before the murder, Sigfredo Garcia tried to run Charlie off the road. Rashbaum says this doesn’t make sense, questioning why Garcia would do a hit for Charlie if he hated him so much.

11:50: “A far cry from murder.”​

“Crazy ideas? Yes. An upset mother? Yes. Pushing each other’s buttons? Yes. But ladies and gentlemen, even the million dollar offer you heard lawyers were consulted to make sure it was legal. A far cry from murder,” Rashbaum says.

Rashbaum says that Wendi and her boys moving to South Florida would not have impacted Charlie’s life significantly.

Rashbaum says they spent a lot of time in cross examination trying to prove Wendi is innocent. He says Wendi made plans for her life in Tallahassee -- making play dates, buying plane tickets, hired a new divorce lawyer, and more.

“They were guessing about Wendi just like they’re guessing about Charlie,” he says.

11:45: Rashbaum begins closing arguments​

Daniel Rashbaum begins closing statements at 11:45, continuing his theme in opening of “puzzle pieces.”

“What you see in this trial is a mountain of reasonable doubt,” Rashbaum says.

“Sometimes the simple answer is the wrong answer. Sometimes things aren’t so simple. And that’s what we have in this case.”

Rashbaum argues “Charlie Adelson didn’t have a motive to upend his life.”

LIVE BLOG: Closing arguments wrap in Charlie Adelson trial, jury deliberates

Closing arguments begin just before 9:30 with Georgia Cappleman giving the closing for the state.

www.wctv.tv

@Niner

 

[amicuscurie]

It’s either going to be a very short deliberation and conviction, or very long and a hung jury. No way they are getting 12 people to vote acquittal.

 

[GordonX]

I think it could be a little while before they would arrest DA -

CA Guilty Verdict--->DA Grand Jury Indictment--->DA Arrest

 

[Blue Shakehead]

I wonder where the Adelson verdict watching party is today.

 

[Blue Shakehead]

It’s either going to be a very short deliberation and conviction, or very long and a hung jury. No way they are getting 12 people to vote acquittal.

I don't see a very short deliberation and conviction here. Dolce Vita is 45 minutes and the wiretaps are another couple hours. They will want to go through that stuff - even if they've mostly made up their minds that he's guilty. I'd be surprised if the verdict came in before 5 or 6pm today.

 

[Windward Gal]

I wish all of you could teleport to my house so we could suffer through verdict watch together! I would serve snacks and drinks. This forum has been so great, no one I know has followed this case so I’ve had no one to talk to. My husband pretends to listen but it’s not the same thing as getting into the details with all of you.

 

[amicuscurie]

I don't see a very short deliberation and conviction here. Dolce Vita is 45 minutes and the wiretaps are another couple hours. They will want to go through that stuff - even if they've mostly made up their minds that he's guilty. I'd be surprised if the verdict came in before 5 or 6pm today.

If I was on that jury I’d say “we are all voting guilty, right?” I mean, seriously! Sometimes they do come into the room like that. JMO