GUILTY FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen #17

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IQuestion said:
DR asks, "Why not have hit while everyone at HA's 70th birthday party?" Uh, because the hitmen work on their own time, day and opportunistic situations. And, this isn't a scene from The Godfather where the hits take place while the whole family is at a baptism...geeesh.
"You don't have to like Charlie Adelson, but that doesn't make him guilty?" Hmmm, is DR saying CA , The Prince of Verbosity, is not a likable and gleans that from the faces of jurors? Otherwise why even suggest your client isn't likable?
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Actually I think DM was in NYC at the time of HA’s 70th birthday party (according to what WA said in her police interview)

(IMO part of the difficulty of getting the hit done that summer was that on weeks when DM did not have the kids, he was often in NYC or otherwise away from FL)
 
MartinDupuis said:
They all look very honest too me LOL NOT
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IMHO. The TV set on Trescott (DM) and the home TV set (alibi) hence, the drive down Trescott later to verify if this was repaired so a payment could be made when the repairmen return home. The neighbor and the police tape threw a monkey wrench into the plan. This was a well thought out plan. But as Ralph Waldo Emerson stated in his essay on polarity..."There is a crack in everything God has made"
Response to #41 and #60
 
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Gypsy Road said:
We have the State’s pretty darn solid evidence, and all we have is Charlie’s word. But absolutely no solid evidence Charlie’s word is truthful. It’s just Charlie’s word. That’s all. Charlie’s WORD. In all those wire tapes, restaurant surveillance, cameras in Charlie dental office and home - not once does he speak of being extorted. This closing argument is ridiculous.
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And you summed up CA's defense. Charlie's word and web of lies. Period.
 
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LIVE BLOG: Closing arguments wrap in Charlie Adelson trial, jury deliberates

Closing arguments begin just before 9:30 with Georgia Cappleman giving the closing for the state.
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LIVE BLOG- A.M.: Closing arguments begin in Charlie Adelson trial​


Published: Nov. 6, 2023 at 7:16 AM PST|Updated: 3 hours ago

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (WCTV) - Closing arguments in the Charlie Adelson murder-for-hire trial began on a crisp fall morning in Tallahassee.

11:18: “A pile of pieces that don’t fit together.”​

Cappleman asks “how many different explanations can you string together before it’s no longer reasonable?”

She references coincidences, and ends with saying Adelson is not a victim.

“He’s smart, successful. He’s a wealthy successful murderer,” Cappleman says.

The State finishes its closing arguments at 11:18 a.m.

11:10: Rashbaum objects​

Cappleman argues that you don’t have to “pull the trigger” to be guilty. “Without every player in this conspiracy, the murder doesn’t get done,” she says.

Rashbaum objects.

Cappleman continues explaining her point, saying without information from the inside Markel’s killers would not have known where to go to commit the crime.

She asks “why not just rob/extort him?”

10:37: “People do not talk in code if they haven’t done anything wrong.”​

“The players in this case are smart,” Cappleman tells the jury. “They’ve given a lot of thought to their preparations before this and to their explanations.”

She adds Charlie Adelson is not the type of person to “lay down” and allow someone to extort him in silence. She says the defense’s theory “defies logic.”

Cappleman says Charlie was “practiced” on the stand. She points out that after “the bump,” Charlie reacts strongly to the possible threat of extortion, threatening to hurt whoever might be behind it. He’s suspicious and asks a lot of questions. This is the opposite of how he reacted to the alleged first extortion.

“Everyone who wanted this done and did some act toward accomplishing it is guilty as the one that pulled the trigger,” Cappleman says.

10:27: Reviewing the evidence presented by the State​

Cappleman is skeptical that Charlie would just “lie down and take this in silence.”

It defies logic that Charlie would grow closer to Magbanua after he started extorting him. It also defies logic that Charlie would continue to pay her and just take her at her word without asking any questions or going to the police, Cappleman says.

9:54: “This situation was a pressure cooker and it was about to blow.”​

Cappleman says Wendi is the “weakling” of the Adelson family, someone who needs to be “protected.” And Charlie “fancied himself the savior of this family.”

Cappleman says Dan Markel was “erased” from his children’s lives after he was murdered, citing Wendi changing their last name from Markel to Adelson

9:28: “When a defendant can’t argue with the evidence they true to explain it away.”​

Closing arguments begin just before 9:30 with Georgia Cappleman giving the closing for the state.

Cappleman tells jurors “he and Rivera traveled to Tallahassee twice to kill someone he hated, in hopes that he would give them money for it on the back end.”

In her arguments, she refers to Garcia and Rivera as “two Stone Cold murdering gangsters” that let Adelson go “on a payment plan to give him the rest.”

She warns the jury “they only need to get one of you confused enough to derail this whole thing.”

Cappleman shows emails from Donna Adelson about relocation and plans to get Markel to let kids move.

@Niner
 
Seattle1 said:
www.wctv.tv

LIVE BLOG: Closing arguments wrap in Charlie Adelson trial, jury deliberates

Closing arguments begin just before 9:30 with Georgia Cappleman giving the closing for the state.
www.wctv.tv www.wctv.tv

LIVE BLOG- A.M.: Closing arguments begin in Charlie Adelson trial​


Published: Nov. 6, 2023 at 7:16 AM PST|Updated: 3 hours ago

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (WCTV) - Closing arguments in the Charlie Adelson murder-for-hire trial began on a crisp fall morning in Tallahassee.

11:18: “A pile of pieces that don’t fit together.”​

Cappleman asks “how many different explanations can you string together before it’s no longer reasonable?”

She references coincidences, and ends with saying Adelson is not a victim.

“He’s smart, successful. He’s a wealthy successful murderer,” Cappleman says.

The State finishes its closing arguments at 11:18 a.m.

11:10: Rashbaum objects​

Cappleman argues that you don’t have to “pull the trigger” to be guilty. “Without every player in this conspiracy, the murder doesn’t get done,” she says.

Rashbaum objects.

Cappleman continues explaining her point, saying without information from the inside Markel’s killers would not have known where to go to commit the crime.

She asks “why not just rob/extort him?”

10:37: “People do not talk in code if they haven’t done anything wrong.”​

“The players in this case are smart,” Cappleman tells the jury. “They’ve given a lot of thought to their preparations before this and to their explanations.”

She adds Charlie Adelson is not the type of person to “lay down” and allow someone to extort him in silence. She says the defense’s theory “defies logic.”

Cappleman says Charlie was “practiced” on the stand. She points out that after “the bump,” Charlie reacts strongly to the possible threat of extortion, threatening to hurt whoever might be behind it. He’s suspicious and asks a lot of questions. This is the opposite of how he reacted to the alleged first extortion.

“Everyone who wanted this done and did some act toward accomplishing it is guilty as the one that pulled the trigger,” Cappleman says.

10:27: Reviewing the evidence presented by the State​

Cappleman is skeptical that Charlie would just “lie down and take this in silence.”

It defies logic that Charlie would grow closer to Magbanua after he started extorting him. It also defies logic that Charlie would continue to pay her and just take her at her word without asking any questions or going to the police, Cappleman says.

9:54: “This situation was a pressure cooker and it was about to blow.”​

Cappleman says Wendi is the “weakling” of the Adelson family, someone who needs to be “protected.” And Charlie “fancied himself the savior of this family.”

Cappleman says Dan Markel was “erased” from his children’s lives after he was murdered, citing Wendi changing their last name from Markel to Adelson

9:28: “When a defendant can’t argue with the evidence they true to explain it away.”​

Closing arguments begin just before 9:30 with Georgia Cappleman giving the closing for the state.

Cappleman tells jurors “he and Rivera traveled to Tallahassee twice to kill someone he hated, in hopes that he would give them money for it on the back end.”

In her arguments, she refers to Garcia and Rivera as “two Stone Cold murdering gangsters” that let Adelson go “on a payment plan to give him the rest.”

She warns the jury “they only need to get one of you confused enough to derail this whole thing.”

Cappleman shows emails from Donna Adelson about relocation and plans to get Markel to let kids move.

@Niner
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Cappleman continues explaining her point, saying without information from the inside Markel’s killers would not have known where to go to commit the crime.

She asks “why not just rob/extort him?”
 
Charlie very fixed looking at the jury ( I guess he must be trying to ascertain who, if anybody, in the jury is responding to Rashbaum's arguments)

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It can't be going that well w jury cuz Rashbaum a few moments ago, just said to them ' we're almost there'
 
keptbycats said:
Let's certainly hope so!!

I struggle to wrap my brain around the fact that this whole family was apparently okay with killing the father of their sons/grandsons/nephews. That they somehow managed to come to the agreement that the end justified the means is jut beyond my comprehension. It's like a bad Lifetime movie.
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Keptbycats - You are reading my mind. These (Adelsons) are intelligent, educated people. Surely they understand the impact of trauma on children especially the trauma of losing their loving, engaged father at such a young age. Even if they had nothing to do with it (they are all over this,) even if their dislike of Dan was valid (it was not,) surely they would understand that the death of a parent is life-changing. They are evil, selfish people and I am so glad that they world sees this. God bless the Markel boys and the Markel family. I pray for them and pray for unification for the boys and thr Markels and believe they are good people that will tread lightly, and soberly, to get them some counseling. How in the world will they ever reconcile all of this?
 
Wishbone said:
IMO WA really screwed up when she made her little trip near the house(murder scene) I don't believe in coincidence, only synchronicity. All the puzzle pieces fit together.
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Yes that would have been the trip to the liquor store to purchase the Bulleit brand bourbon.

Per Wikipedia: "Bulleit Bourbon is a brand of Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey produced at the Bulleit Distillery in Lebanon, Kentucky and the Bulleit Distillery in Shelbyville, Kentucky, owned by the Diageo beverage conglomerate. It is characterized by a high rye content for a bourbon and being aged at least six years."

[I know you all are bored with the rhetoric coming from the defense. Just throwing that in for you. I don't own any shares of stock in the company.)
 
He did negotiate with Katie that night. She agreed to a payment plan.

also, do you think Rash was hoping they’d call Katie so he could do this?

ETA- his story depends on you believing Katie when she says she was involved in this. But not believing her when she says he was.
 
Wey convenient that none of this conversation in the car is on tape. And, again- are we supposed to believe Katie, or not believe Katie?

also- “threadening”

ETA- again, how hard is it to pronounce Vita? It doesn’t have to rhyme! Are we sure this guy is from a big city, where people speak foreign languages routinely?
 
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