FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen *4 Guilty* #23

[Zedzded]

Anyone see this? Thoughts?

It is illogical to arrest WA now. The case against her will be infinitely stronger after her Mum has been convicted.

 

[Knitpicker]

No, I’m pretty sure Dan had a life insurance policy payable to the kids. If I recall correctly, he had changed the beneficiary from Wendi to the kids after the divorce.

No, I know that. I was just thinking that if Wendi said to Shelly “You know, with all thats going on with this case, I can’t get a job. And the Bar Mitzvahs are costing me 30K each (even if D and H were paying).I need 60K for it..(even when the Markels weren’t invited)
People have to remortgage their homes to pay for these events. they are as expensive as weddings sometimes.
So I am saying that Wendi was able to draw from the policy for this. Also to pay for her mortgage on the boys behalf. ) and any vacations she took with them during the summers.
Shelly is an attorney so I am sure she has control, but it woudl be interesting to hear from an attorney on just how much she would be able to get.
I also know the Social security stops when the boys hit 18.
So thats a big loss for her.
She stated ont he stand that she is doing mostly fundraising and some asylum work. Definitely not working to her potential!

 

[Knitpicker]

Ignore the yellow arrow and just focussing on the top line note. The ' Wendi - here in town' caught my eye

Returning to the topic of the rumour of a move to Texas and the fact that she's rented out the apartment, is it possible that WA was already using a second place of residence, out of town? Already by June 2023, a few months before CA's trial was due.

It's probably a nothing burger but it's just not the way I'd write it if my daughter who lived in my town was simply coming back from a trip. ( It's the language I'd use if my daughter was not often in town)
Maybe her current bf already has another place, 'out of town'


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Source for the screenshot is Donna's 2022 -23 planner. I'll post the other STS screenshots in a separate post

About “wendi in town”, I’d think since it was June, the boys were on summer break, and I’d think Wendi was traveling a lot with them.
I had read somewhere that Wendi and the boys would take Michael Mintz’s jet (yes he’s very wealthy and lives in a 8500 sq ft. Home in Corpus Cristi on the water-pretty much a mansion) back and forth from Miami to Texas.
So no doubt last summer she was probably looking into moving there, or traveling elsewhere with her boys. She was probably away a lot. She didn’t have a full time job and was doing fundraising and asylum work (as per her testimony)

 

[Knitpicker]

same STS show.

Tim Jansen gave the following opinion:
Wtte of ... When will DRashbaum take responsibility for selling hard the likelihood of a NG verdict to Charlie? Everybody knew Charlie was going down, that the evidence was so strong against him. TR added that DR now seems to be doing the same sell to Donna. Jansen then raised the issue of Katie's lawyers doing the same thing.

Anyway.... my opinion: What do you think ' super-lawyer' John Lauro thought of CA's chances at trial? And attorney Wendi?
That wasn't discussed on STS but I'm linking it to the screenshot below. ' Ask Wendi - why you never ask about Charlie'

(IMO I 'd speculate there's very good reasons that Wendi wouldn't want Charlie to get a reality check before the trial started. It's not rocket science and bear in mind that Mentour Lawyer's planner videos showed that Wendi is having weekly Sunday dinners with her parents etc etc. They were not estranged as we'd been previously led to believe)

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Notes from DA's planner.
Source - the same link as in the previous WS post

What do you think the “unwelcoming” reference means about Jorge, W’s boyfriend?
All those meetings and no talk at all about the case? (Sarcasm)

 

[cottonweaver]

What do you think the “unwelcoming” reference means about Jorge, W’s boyfriend?
All those meetings and no talk at all about the case? (Sarcasm)

Not sure but at a guess I would say that Wendi has told Donna that Jorge feels unwelcome because it's in quotation marks. ( Donna's not going to quote herself in her own notes imo) Donna sounds puzzled and has written it twice on that note.

Maybe Donna doesn't give off good vibes to Jorge because she doesn't approve of him? Maybe he's not rich enough! ?

OTOH when considering anything an Adelson says maybe not wise to take it at face value?
For example, if Wendi didn't want to spend time as a couple with her parents, she could blame it on Jorge instead of owning her own feelings? He's a handy ' shield' or excuse?

If one was a female friend/sycophant of Wendi's at that point in 2023-23, one could easily understand why Donna doesn't want to be with her mother. 'Poor Wendi, that dreadful overbearing Mom'

OTOH...
During the period of these diary entries, DA is obsessed - understandably - by the case & her son's plight. When she's not calling Rashbaum or his wife to talk about it, she's making notes of things she needs to prep for the case.
If you were Donna and your daughter is a super smart IYO and an attorney, wouldn't you want to ask your atty daughter's advice? Use her as a sounding board? Maybe she can help with trial prep? Nothing needs to get written down, texted or leave a digital evidence trail.

who manipulates whom? chicken or the egg? Not sure

Your version could be correct instead. That WA & DA have indeed been discussing the case throughout or Wendi just listens and gets the intell from Donna? ( It won't be on the Sunday family meals though? The kids would be there)

 

[amicuscurie]

No, I know that. I was just thinking that if Wendi said to Shelly “You know, with all thats going on with this case, I can’t get a job. And the Bar Mitzvahs are costing me 30K each (even if D and H were paying).I need 60K for it..(even when the Markels weren’t invited)
People have to remortgage their homes to pay for these events. they are as expensive as weddings sometimes.
So I am saying that Wendi was able to draw from the policy for this. Also to pay for her mortgage on the boys behalf. ) and any vacations she took with them during the summers.
Shelly is an attorney so I am sure she has control, but it woudl be interesting to hear from an attorney on just how much she would be able to get.
I also know the Social security stops when the boys hit 18.
So thats a big loss for her.
She stated ont he stand that she is doing mostly fundraising and some asylum work. Definitely not working to her potential!

I believe the Bar Mitzvah didn’t cost much. The temple has hardship rates, and you don’t have to have a huge party, especially if you don’t have many family and friends to impress. It seems to me she’s had a tough time finding actual work, she seems to me to change jobs a lot. What firm would hire her, especially with so little actual firm experience? The impression that any of these people is wealthy beyond measure is false, in my opinion. Donna and Harvey and Charlie were wealthy before all this happened, I think, but not so much anymore. They do seem to me to have enough to pay lawyers, and that adds up. Again, for some reason Wendi appears to me to be living like she is struggling for money. The kids are in public school, as I understand, and they share a bedroom in a modest garden apartment complex that’s not on the water. Everything Donna said they could have in those emails on the relocation, the large home, their own room, private school, does not appear, to me, to have come to pass. Another tragedy about this whole thing.

 

[Knitpicker]

I believe the Bar Mitzvah didn’t cost much. The temple has hardship rates, and you don’t have to have a huge party, especially if you don’t have many family and friends to impress. It seems to me she’s had a tough time finding actual work, she seems to me to change jobs a lot. What firm would hire her, especially with so little actual firm experience? The impression that any of these people is wealthy beyond measure is false, in my opinion. Donna and Harvey and Charlie were wealthy before all this happened, I think, but not so much anymore. They do seem to me to have enough to pay lawyers, and that adds up. Again, for some reason Wendi appears to me to be living like she is struggling for money. The kids are in public school, as I understand, and they share a bedroom in a modest garden apartment complex that’s not on the water. Everything Donna said they could have in those emails on the relocation, the large home, their own room, private school, does not appear, to me, to have come to pass. Another tragedy about this whole thing.

The apartment Wendi owns is worth 1 million. She could have gotten a very nice home for that price elsewhere.
Donna and Harvey were worth 8-9 million, with multiple rental properties.
One of the properties is a building with 14 units and the other smaller building was 8 units. I believe they have about 25-30 rentals that they collect upwards of 30K plus every month (and that was before they began upping the rental charges.) Plus their social security.
I hardly think Wendi is struggling, and such. I am not one to count anyones money but with the case going, it’s fair game.
Wendi also had (according to Tamaras accounts) 500K from her parents in an investment account.
I guess wealth is all relative..

 

[Knitpicker]

Not sure but at a guess I would say that Wendi has told Donna that Jorge feels unwelcome because it's in quotation marks. ( Donna's not going to quote herself in her own notes imo) Donna sounds puzzled and has written it twice on that note.

Maybe Donna doesn't give off good vibes to Jorge because she doesn't approve of him? Maybe he's not rich enough! ?

OTOH when considering anything an Adelson says maybe not wise to take it at face value?
For example, if Wendi didn't want to spend time as a couple with her parents, she could blame it on Jorge instead of owning her own feelings? He's a handy ' shield' or excuse?

If one was a female friend/sycophant of Wendi's at that point in 2023-23, one could easily understand why Donna doesn't want to be with her mother. 'Poor Wendi, that dreadful overbearing Mom'

OTOH...
During the period of these diary entries, DA is obsessed - understandably - by the case & her son's plight. When she's not calling Rashbaum or his wife to talk about it, she's making notes of things she needs to prep for the case.
If you were Donna and your daughter is a super smart IYO and an attorney, wouldn't you want to ask your atty daughter's advice? Use her as a sounding board? Maybe she can help with trial prep? Nothing needs to get written down, texted or leave a digital evidence trail.

who manipulates whom? chicken or the egg? Not sure

Your version could be correct instead. That WA & DA have indeed been discussing the case throughout or Wendi just listens and gets the intell from Donna? ( It won't be on the Sunday family meals though? The kids would be there)

Hmmm..yes good thoughts on that. Yes, you never know…reminds me of the song “Oh the games people play now, every night and every day now. Never saying what they mean, never meaning what they say “…or something like that!
I am sure Wendi controls the narrative as she always has done.

 

[IQuestion]

Anyone see this? Thoughts?

Best line ever! Per description of DaNang Donna, "Help me. I know I am being recorded but I just can't shut up." Thank you for posting a fresh look. In my mind I would always describe it (Donna's over the top emoting on phone calls) as verbal incontinence: Urgent and frequent.
To me, she has an incredibly soothing voice...low in pitch, reassuring and at the same time full of BS. Her son is sitting in a jail, convicted of a horrible & callous crime and she says, "June looked beautiful" and "Dan did a terrific job." Why? Has any one on this forum considered these deflection tactics are to cover up the possibility Donna leaked info/told WA the time & day of the hit and that is why WA knew when to drive by? And Donna does not want to admit she screwed up? Something about the way she changes the subject every time he mentions the drive down Trescott, DA gets quiet or changes the subject. Does anyone else hear/feel/see the deflection?