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The beard is gone but yes he must be under a lot of stress.Rashbaum appears to me to have gained a lot of weight.
The beard is gone but yes he must be under a lot of stress.Rashbaum appears to me to have gained a lot of weight.
The one argument I found persuasive was the argument that the state has had the text saying “outside your house” from the beginning, and thus there is no new evidence which would have justified the delay in charging Donna. The state argued that they had it but did not appreciate its significance until Katie told them that Charlie said that Donna had been there. If the judge does not buy that argument, it’s not good for the state. The judge said he was going to review Katie’s testimony. Hopefully he is going to be looking at it with an eye toward finding that Katie’s testimony supports the state’s argument. But this makes me nervous. The state DID have that text, from the beginning, and it would seem to me that they would have reviewed all of the phone records they had very closely, particularly texts sent on the day of the murder. It’s possible the state just didn’t use that text in other trials, because Donna was not the Defendant and it wasn’t needed. One could argue that Rashbaum has also know about that text, but he is arguing that he was not able to get the SunPass records until his client was actually charged. This one makes me nervous.The State’s argument that the defense could’ve/shouldv’ve tried getting their own records years ago if they were so “exonerating” seemed pretty weak to me. The Judge’s questions made me think he was a bit skeptical about the strength of that argument.
Also it feels like some of DR’s arguments today were stronger than some of his arguments at Charlie’s trial. Interesting to hear all this JMOO tho
Agreed. This one makes me nervous.IMO ‘the money drop’ is the most important ruling that has a ‘realistic’ chance. Losing this would be a major blow to the prosecution’s case.
As much criticism as Rashbaum seems to get, I think he made very solid arguments today and argued them well. People that criticize his competency seem to do it out of their hatred of his clients.
I agree.The one argument I found persuasive was the argument that the state has had the text saying “outside your house” from the beginning, and thus there is no new evidence which would have justified the delay in charging Donna. The state argued that they had it but did not appreciate its significance until Katie told them that Charlie said that Donna had been there. If the judge does not buy that argument, it’s not good for the state. The judge said he was going to review Katie’s testimony. Hopefully he is going to be looking at it with an eye toward finding that Katie’s testimony supports the state’s argument. But this makes me nervous. The state DID have that text, from the beginning, and it would seem to me that they would have reviewed all of the phone records they had very closely, particularly texts sent on the day of the murder. It’s possible the state just didn’t use that text in other trials, because Donna was not the Defendant and it wasn’t needed. One could argue that Rashbaum has also know about that text, but he is arguing that he was not able to get the SunPass records until his client was actually charged. This one makes me nervous.
Not a Kosher meal!Pretty sure the Queen of South Beach was unfamiliar with baloney sandwiches in her previous life!
That was the ridiculous part of his argument, to me. He acknowledged that the state has records that place them ON the Turnpike at a certain time. He seems to me to just be arguing that he needs the records of exactly when and where they ENTERED the Turnpike, and whether and when they may have exited. It is my opinion that if those records existed, they would show them entering the Turnpike about an hour or 90 minutes after that text was sent, because that is consistent with their arrival in Orlando at 1:30 a.m. But he’s arguing that the records might NOT say that, and since we can’t access them, the state’s evidence - which DOES support the interpretation that the SunPass records would indeed show them entering the Turnpike after the text was sent - should be thrown out.I agree.
How did he know the route they took that night if he had no sunpass records?\
He mentioned them starting on I95 then switching to the Turnpike.
He knows exactly what happened, in my opinion. That’s why this motion annoys me. In my opinion the SunPass records even if they could be pulled would not be helpful to the defense.I agree.
How did he know the route they took that night if he had no sunpass records?\
He mentioned them starting on I95 then switching to the Turnpike.
I think he mentioned that they switched to the Turnpike while they were still in Dade. I’d have to relisten.That was the ridiculous part of his argument, to me. He acknowledged that the state has records that place them ON the Turnpike at a certain time. He seems to me to just be arguing that he needs the records of exactly when and where they ENTERED the Turnpike, and whether and when they may have exited. It is my opinion that if those records existed, they would show them entering the Turnpike about an hour or 90 minutes after that text was sent, because that is consistent with their arrival in Orlando at 1:30 a.m. But he’s arguing that the records might NOT say that, and since we can’t access them, the state’s evidence, which DOES support the interpretation that the SunPass records would indeed show them entering the Turnpike after the text was sent, should be thrown out.
Yes, he said they got on it at the Golden Glades, (which he referred to as the Dolphin Expressway). If they did that, and did not stop, then in my opinion it would not have taken them until 1:30 a.m. to arrive in Orlando. Also, cell tower records seem to be able to pinpoint Donna’s location pretty accurately. Wouldn’t they be able to show where and when she was at or near the Golden Glades?I think he mentioned that they switched to the Turnpike while they were still in Dade. I’d have to relisten.
So the state does have the records? I’m confused. I thought the state does not have the sunpass records.
View attachment 527936Rashbaum appears to me to have gained a lot of weight.
The state does not have SunPass records. They have cell tower records which show where Donna’s phone was, and when, and these show her having taken the Turnpike that night, and when she was on it.I think he mentioned that they switched to the Turnpike while they were still in Dade. I’d have to relisten.
So the state does have the records? I’m confused. I thought the state does not have the sunpass records.
Corbett only said they left from Miami. If I remember (Bc I always thought they left from Coral Springs) He may have been keeping that information. It wasn’t specific.Yes, he said they got on it at the Golden Glades, (which he referred to as the Dolphin Expressway). If they did that, and did not stop, then in my opinion it would not have taken them until 1:30 a.m. to arrive in Orlando. Also, cell tower records seem to be able to pinpoint Donna’s location pretty accurately. Wouldn’t they be able to show where and when she was at or near the Golden Glades?
Corbett only said they left from Miami. If I remember (Bc I always thought they left from Coral Springs) He may have been keeping that information. It wasn’t specific.Yes, he said they got on it at the Golden Glades, (which he referred to as the Dolphin Expressway). If they did that, and did not stop, then in my opinion it would not have taken them until 1:30 a.m. to arrive in Orlando. Also, cell tower records seem to be able to pinpoint Donna’s location pretty accurately. Wouldn’t they be able to show where and when she was at or near the Golden Glades?
What happened today at Donna Adelson’s Motion Hearing in Room 3G?IMO ‘the money drop’ is the most important ruling that has a ‘realistic’ chance. Losing this would be a major blow to the prosecution’s case.
As much criticism as Rashbaum seems to get, I think he made very solid arguments today and argued them well. People that criticize his competency seem to do it out of their hatred of his clients.
The Dolphin Expressway is not the Turnpike. It was confusing, because I thought I heard him say they took the Turnpike and got on it by the Dolphins Stadium (Golden Glades). That’s not the Dolphin Expressway. In my experience, and I’ve done it a million times, if you are heading to Orlando from Miami, you take the Turnpike, and you get on it at Golden Glades, which is right next to the Dolphins Stadium. In my opinion, Rash was confused as to the difference between Golden Glades, which is an entrance to the Turnpike near Dolphins Stadium, and the Dolphin Expressway, which is something else entirely. From my recollection, he was describing a Turnpike entrance near the stadium, which is properly called the Golden Glades Interchange.Corbett only said they left from Miami. If I remember (Bc I always thought they left from Coral Springs) He may have been keeping that information. It wasn’t specific.
So Rashi is suggesting they took the dolphin expressway to I75 to go north. Thats interesting bc that wouldnt be the way I would get to Orlando. Maybe if I was going straight to Tallahassee. It brings you farther west than Orlando it.
I hadn’t considered that route.
Did he say Dolphin Expressway? There would be no point in taking this to get to Orlando. It would take you too far west and then if you got on the Turnpike you would be going back east. that makes no sense. Theres no way they took this to go to OrlandoThe Dolphin Expressway is not the Turnpike. It was confusing, because I thought I heard him say they took the Turnpike and got on it by the Dolphins Stadium (Golden Glades). That’s not the Dolphin Expressway
It makes you wonder why he didn't do this for Charlie.
Yes mold and listeria. I used to buy Boars head but I no longer eat luncheon meats unless it’s from Trader joe/organic.
I had noticed they don;t keep track of the date they opened it and it could be just sitting there for more days than it should. They just put plastic wrap on it until they slice it for the next person. Food nowadays is scary.
He did, but as I recall, he also said they got on the TURNPIKE at an entrance near Dolphins Stadium. That, to the best of my knowledge, is NOT the Dolphin Expressway, not by a long shot. His whole Motion seemed to me to be about being able to show when they got on the TURNPIKE.Did he say Dolphin Expressway?
I got the impression that he was trying to baffle the Tally-based judge based on the judge not being a frequent user of those routes, did you? ( I don't know any of them so I cannot comment but that was my impression)Corbett only said they left from Miami. If I remember (Bc I always thought they left from Coral Springs) He may have been keeping that information. It wasn’t specific.
So Rashi is suggesting they took the dolphin expressway to I75 to go north. Thats interesting bc that wouldnt be the way I would get to Orlando. Maybe if I was going straight to Tallahassee. It brings you farther west than Orlando it.
I hadn’t considered that route.