Wait a minute here….. IIUC her parents (JS parents) were not fond of SS being there in JS condominium / residence? Not supposedly happy / pleased about him having a relationship with JS? So if that is true…… yet they are receiving money from SS for rent? SMH……
There is an old adage sometimes said: certain individuals couldn’t tell you the truth if you were standing there with money offering it to them to tell it. MOO
I have never heard this adage and it floors me, thank you!
But ok, giving maternal grandparents the benefit of the doubt for a second…is it possible that it was them who actually demanded SS move out? Because I think it’s weird he had so much stuff left behind at JS’s condo when he was supposedly living at his parents after the breakup.
Payment transactions or a formal lease agreement would shine some light. But I know so many people who are not on their current partner’s lease, it’s not something I would ever do again. My own ex is in that situation after cheating on me with his now ex…people live sloppily, and what can I say? JS and SS were sloppy. The evidence photos stress me out, I couldn’t live like that.
I’d want to know if he was paying them directly or if he was paying JS. The gall that he has to have (probably IMO according to Jen’s story) about Maddie’s Christmas money being possibly stolen by him is so pathetic. CS was paying his rent! Why would he be so desperate that he’d steal her freaking Christmas money?
JS could have easily been lying to her parents about the amount of time he spent at the condo. SS’s old roommate made it sound like the living situation was so restrictive and uncomfortable as though the grandparents were around regularly. How would that even work if they apparently despise each other so much?
If it wasn’t the grandparents imposing the rules about being in shared spaces, were those JS’s rules?
I’m just not willing to believe MS’s grandparents knew anything about the abuse and took SS’s money like it was NBD. They could have had their poor opinions and feelings that he was “off” but nothing that they detected about what he was doing to MS.
Remember, SS was a gun owner. According to one of the roommates, SS had threatened to unalive himself in a fight with JS before. I think both SS and JS are manipulative, they manipulated each other and they manipulated Maddie. They manipulate everyone around them, including the police…the public too with those Razzie Award worthy interviews.
From the evidence photos, he obviously didn’t have the gun secured…it it’s not lost on me that it could have easily been used as a deterrent so that MS didn’t tell her grandparents. I can’t imagine that MS didn’t know he had a gun with how it was found by LE. Someone like SS is not above telling a child they’ll shoot up the family if they don’t stay quiet.
I think it’s very plausible Maddie let her grandparents know how much she did not like SS, but wouldn’t tell them the true horrors she was enduring. She was walking around the neighborhood crying to her grandmother on the phone before her birthday. I don’t doubt much of it was centered around knowing SS was going to attack her again. He had done it before around previous birthdays according to the CSAM date stamps.
I don’t buy for a second that it made more sense to JS to let SS be a caretaker bc of her “night shifts” and lack of quality time when MS was at Grandma’s. Why wouldn’t they help take care of her for JS?? Doesn’t JS’s sister also have her own townhouse? Like, c’mon…she had plenty of support around her that she seemingly didn’t want to rely on if it meant getting criticism for dating SS.
When JS says she doesn’t “see Maddie” as much when she goes to her Grandmas, it’s bc Maddie was safe from SS and cared for. Grandma looked relatively put together in interviews in a noticeable way, JS’s sister too. If I were MS I wouldn’t want to be in that pig sty townhouse dungeon with my lazy mom and my abuser.
Looking at that phrase, Maddie may not have wanted to go back home when visiting with Grandma considering the supposed fighting between her and her mom. JS fought with SS too. Then there are other roommates. A girl MS’s age not only wants a cozy room that makes them feel safe, but also privacy. She was struggling at school, falling asleep. In her 12th birthday party videos, the poor thing looks so broken and exhausted, noticeably IMO.
I firmly believe JS was lying to everyone around her just like SS, that includes her own family. TW said the moment he knew MS was missing, he drove across the country to go look for her. That doesn't sound like the indifferent and distant father JS makes him out to be in interviews. TW spoke of Maddie lovingly as a stepmom, I haven't heard JS say a single positive thing about her own daughter in any of her interviews.
JS is not wrong when she calls SS a “master manipulator” but what she leaves out is the projection, because clearly she is too.
JMHO. The most recent police interview released makes me so incredibly angry, I have a feeling she was given derivative immunity bc the police have what they need apart from her statements and future testimony to charge her…eventually.
