Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #11

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Apparently there is video from the church of someone that morning in the parking lot. Anyone have more info on that? Who was that in the video? Why did Stephan specifically mention the church parking is where he dropped her off? Coincidence? Maybe he knew people cut across the parking lot so there would be video of "someone" to cover his story?

jmo
He knew the cam angle wasn’t gonna be helpful imo. Why? Had he been before to scope it out? Probably imo.
 
I wonder if LE know what was said on the phone between Maddie and SS on the 2/24? CS said Maddie just wanted to confirm SS was coming to her party the next day but for some reason. afterwards SS was acting strange and tense and but wouldn’t tell them what was wrong except he really needed to find his medications. It seems like that this the day he chose to remove his hard-drive from his computers too and put them info storage. It seems suspicious and odd to me and I wonder if there is any way for police to retrace all his communications and transactions that took place then.

Like others said, what happened to Maddie’s money and where does SS’ money come from? He doesn’t have insurance so presumably he pays for his meds out of pocket, he orders packages of video games, and I assume he can afford gas for his car and the vapes he bought at the shop.

Yet, he doesn’t have a job and CS, JS, JS’ mom, one of JS’ roommates and JS’ friends all states to police that not only did he not have a job but he also doesn’t have any money either. Maddie also told her therapist and a friend that he doesn’t do anything useful around the house but he still their money and eats their food. Considering that he steals from his own parents it makes sense that Maddie and JS consider him responsible for Maddie’s Christmas money too. It makes sense also why they would count her birthday money considering they have to account for every penny with a their in their house.

What doesn’t make sense is that he could make 30k at Disney and still not contribute at all to $400-600 worth of rent? It doesn’t make sense that according to C.S. and Angelique SS could get upset that JS was kicking him out last November/December. She told them he was a bad partner who didn’t want to work and she, like his parents, was tired of supporting him. It sounds like Maddie was tired of his presence too.

However, for someone without a job he sure seems entitled to the money other people worked for or were gifted. And for someone who doesn’t pay rent he acts like it is privilege for JS, Maddie and his parents to have him he even live with them. It seems like he told JS the same lie he has already been telling his parents about getting a job at Disney.

However, if Disney is not source of income than what is? I truly hope he hasn’t been selling any explicit pictures of Maddie or any other victims. Already he seems to have exploited every aspect of her life and person even though he had no right to it or her.

Also, how was he planning on getting his hands on sevoflurane and who was he going to illegally use it on and why?
I wanna know what SS did all day on Saturday after he got the call from Ms and before he arrived at her home. Did he go buy “medication” from someone? Did he go shopping for anything? Did he see or talk or text with anyone else? When did he last talk or text with JS before arriving at the home?

I think he did check in to say he was there. I think there’s gonna be more to this story and a reason he was charged with premeditated murder that extends beyond the cause of death. Moooooo.
 
I wonder if LE know what was said on the phone between Maddie and SS on the 2/24? CS said Maddie just wanted to confirm SS was coming to her party the next day but for some reason. afterwards SS was acting strange and tense and but wouldn’t tell them what was wrong except he really needed to find his medications. It seems like that this the day he chose to remove his hard-drive from his computers too and put them info storage. It seems suspicious and odd to me and I wonder if there is any way for police to retrace all his communications and transactions that took place then.

Like others said, what happened to Maddie’s money and where does SS’ money come from? He doesn’t have insurance so presumably he pays for his meds out of pocket, he orders packages of video games, and I assume he can afford gas for his car and the vapes he bought at the shop.

Yet, he doesn’t have a job and CS, JS, JS’ mom, one of JS’ roommates and JS’ friends all states to police that not only did he not have a job but he also doesn’t have any money either. Maddie also told her therapist and a friend that he doesn’t do anything useful around the house but he still their money and eats their food. Considering that he steals from his own parents it makes sense that Maddie and JS consider him responsible for Maddie’s Christmas money too. It makes sense also why they would count her birthday money considering they have to account for every penny with a their in their house.

What doesn’t make sense is that he could make 30k at Disney and still not contribute at all to $400-600 worth of rent? It doesn’t make sense that according to C.S. and Angelique SS could get upset that JS was kicking him out last November/December. She told them he was a bad partner who didn’t want to work and she, like his parents, was tired of supporting him. It sounds like Maddie was tired of his presence too.

However, for someone without a job he sure seems entitled to the money other people worked for or were gifted. And for someone who doesn’t pay rent he acts like it is privilege for JS, Maddie and his parents to have him he even live with them. It seems like he told JS the same lie he has already been telling his parents about getting a job at Disney.

However, if Disney is not source of income than what is? I truly hope he hasn’t been selling any explicit pictures of Maddie or any other victims. Already he seems to have exploited every aspect of her life and person even though he had no right to it or her.

Also, how was he planning on getting his hands on sevoflurane and who was he going to illegally use it on and why?
IMO he was almost certainly selling images / video and possibly Maddie herself. Maybe he tried to tell Ms she was being sent to serve someone else and she declined on the Saturday. Maybe she made herself unavailable by crying and putting up a fuss at grandma’s about not wanting to go somewhere and maybe she told SS she was staying there so she wouldn’t be available for whomever he MAY have arranged for her to be with. IMO it is possible that set him off. Perhaps a lot of $$$ on the line and now a promise made to someone of a child for service and he couldn’t deliver on it. That would not shock me.

This is entirely speculative on my part as to the motive for him (or sadly Js) killing her. Otherwise, I see no motive when she was his easily accessible victim. This had to have been a NO on her part about something imo.

Moooooo.
 
IMO he was almost certainly selling images / video and possibly Maddie herself. Maybe he tried to tell Ms she was being sent to serve someone else and she declined on the Saturday. Maybe she made herself unavailable by crying and putting up a fuss at grandma’s about not wanting to go somewhere and maybe she told SS she was staying there so she wouldn’t be available for whomever he MAY have arranged for her to be with. IMO it is possible that set him off. Perhaps a lot of $$$ on the line and now a promise made to someone of a child for service and he couldn’t deliver on it. That would not shock me.

This is entirely speculative on my part as to the motive for him (or sadly Js) killing her. Otherwise, I see no motive when she was his easily accessible victim. This had to have been a NO on her part about something imo.

Moooooo.
I think that his fetish could have been a motive for her death, even if she was completely compliant the whole time.

With sexually motivated homicide, it's often about taking the fantasy and making it real.

It's entirely believable that she never told him no, and he still killed her.

MOO
 
yes! why was it so important for her to slide that info in, they did not ask her.
same with " he hurt his thumb" This interview is April 18, so that is AFTER she found out what happened. So now knowing all the gory details, the years of SA, that he got a flat tire while looking for a place to dump her body, The tire was shredded b/c he had to continue to drive until he could find a place to stop.. which was exactly where those white things along the highway ended and she has the nerve to explain his owie so matter of factly. even if he did get it from changing his tire, how is it relevant and esp after learning what he had done. sometimes I dont even know what to say about it, because she is so flat and matter of fact, and whines ": he was my best friend...." instead of raging " he killed my daughter "
isnt it amazing how JS can relay every single conversation with SS without a hiccup. yet with Madeline, there are no particulars with any information concerning her whopping 30 minutes with her other than birthday money talk and 'she thinks a few trinkets', Madeline is happy and thats it. (no movie and no singing story in this interview.)
and what about , " was Stephan here for another visit, a week before he was here this last time" ( just listen to the clip.) she was asked do you remember the dates ? , she recalls Christmas, and conveniently leaves out this visit a week before (which might explain why the neighbours said they saw him ) and of course she remembers nothing.
 
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If nothing else, I am mortified at just the small things, like not even checking to see if the upstairs bed had sheets on it before she sent them up there, which is worse now in my opinion knowing that he moved out in 2022 not 2023. I mean it's sick enough let alone that this guy has been gone a year? are you kidding me? he was not a dad figure , he was a perverted ex boyfriend, and a freeloader with the mind of a 12 year old.

"she needed some good sleep" and frankly how much more sleep was she going to get, she had an appt at 10:30 school started at 930 what would she get an extra hour? I call B.S. thats just her excuse to justify why that troll came up here.
She said she was "trying to get him back up here so she could help him out till he got his own place" , she was going to do what? :rolleyes: lol. Oh she must have meant that she was going to let his freeloading a$$ back, to be the nanny, and what else? cause he sure didnt do anything else.
 
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KISSIMMEE, Fla. – While police were still searching for missing 13-year-old Madeline Soto in February, the man now accused of killing the teen took a mysterious, early-morning road trip to Southwest Florida, according to investigators.

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Updated: September 11, 2024 at 6:42 AM
 
SS went to his parents house on that covert 3 am trip to Northport while MS was still missing. His mother found the torso of a sex doll when she searched his room. She was so shocked and taken aback she initially thought the doll was MS (WOW and this is the woman sending him stuff in prison and blaming everyone but her son for the CSAM and deceased child victim - uh okay, she is an interesting lady is CS).
 
SS went to his parents house on that covert 3 am trip to Northport while MS was still missing.
Anyone think that he made that trip to north port to mislead cops. He went home but he couldnt get in and a storage unit he didnt get into either. By this time the cops had his phone for a day , he probably knew what was coming down the pipes was he trying to mislead them by throwing breadcrumbs in the wrong direction. ??
 
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Anyone think that he made that trip to north port to mislead cops. He went to house he couldnt get into and a storage unit he didnt go into. By this time the cops had his phone for a day , he probably knew what was coming down the pipes and tried to mislead them by throwing breadcrumbs in the wrong direction. ??
No, I think he wanted to retrieve incriminating evidence and/or steal stuff from his parents.

jmo
 
No, I think he wanted to retrieve incriminating evidence and/or steal stuff from his parents.

jmo
You think he would have thought about how he was going to get in... simple town.
He also made sure he got his dad out of there, so maybe he did need to get in the house for something. This case is so gripping because of all the guesswork, they do stuff thats hard to figure out or doesnt make sense rather.(with what we know anyway)
 
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Did SS take MS with him to his parents' house on that 3am or so trip to Northport? Or was that after he'd allegedly left her body in the grass? If it were before, how could he leave MS' body at the condo? The door to #4 couldn't be locked from the outside, as I understand. Could he be THAT sure that JS might not wake up and discover the body? Or did he leave it somewhere else temporarily outside the home? What if something had happened and he couldn't make it back like he planned? A car accident or who knows what.
 
IMO he was almost certainly selling images / video and possibly Maddie herself. Maybe he tried to tell Ms she was being sent to serve someone else and she declined on the Saturday. Maybe she made herself unavailable by crying and putting up a fuss at grandma’s about not wanting to go somewhere and maybe she told SS she was staying there so she wouldn’t be available for whomever he MAY have arranged for her to be with. IMO it is possible that set him off. Perhaps a lot of $$$ on the line and now a promise made to someone of a child for service and he couldn’t deliver on it. That would not shock me.

This is entirely speculative on my part as to the motive for him (or sadly Js) killing her. Otherwise, I see no motive when she was his easily accessible victim. This had to have been a NO on her part about something imo.

Moooooo.
Sounds like you may have hit the nail on the head IMO
 
  • Did MS tell you about the party? JS said yeah. Did MS tell you what kind of food they had at the party. JS said yeah, they got her favorites. What are her favorites? JS said, puerto rican food. They ask if they can translate to english what kind of food it was. JS is laughing. MS had requested a dish like rice and beans, with pidgeon peas? It's a kind of pork but she does not know how too cook it. That is typically what MS request for her party.
IMO they pushed for an answer to what she last ate so they could check it against the contents of Maddie's stomach.

And thanks for taking notes!
 
  • What kind of gifts did she get? JS said she got alot of money, that is what she ended up showing me, she had a few trinkets but most of it was money she was so excited for.
This is a conflicting statement against what Maddie's best friend said in an interview. Pg 107 or 896 data dump:

It was also common for Maddie to talk about getting money for her birthday. Maddie got mad at JS for not giving her any money for her birthday and complained because she didn’t get enough money for her birthday.
 
Audio of JS police interview at 50:57:

Now, June 16 of last year, at 9:30pm, you texted Stephan this: Maddie's no longer sleeping with me. I can't risk it. What does that mean?
Long, long pause: "I have no idea."
What in the world could that mean to JS? Risk what?? I'm sorry if this has been hashed out. I'm a dozen pages behind and catching up with y'all! Also, I apologize if it appears I'm spamming. I'm working my way through pages of posts. :)
 
What in the world could that mean to JS? Risk what?? I'm sorry if this has been hashed out. I'm a dozen pages behind and catching up with y'all! Also, I apologize if it appears I'm spamming. I'm working my way through pages of posts. :)
Maybe he wanted access to Madeline again but at the time, Madeline was sleeping in the corner of the living room. With housemates, the risk of someone walking in would have been extreme. It's the only thing I can think of, and she has to feign complete ignorance, because if it's the case, she couldn't admit why without making herself an active participant in trafficking her daughter.

MOO
 
What in the world could that mean to JS? Risk what?? I'm sorry if this has been hashed out. I'm a dozen pages behind and catching up with y'all! Also, I apologize if it appears I'm spamming. I'm working my way through pages of posts. :)
its been discussed a bit but nothing definite, just us guessing so go ahead give your take on it. . This may be a stupid question but that one white croc that was in jenns room , whos was it? maddis or jenns? cause jenn had white croc 's too didnt she?
 

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