Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #12

[Gemmie]

I remember she said he moved out in dec....but 2023?

Pg 341 of 896:

Stephan had moved out of the home in the later part of 2023 (November/December).

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Employment: in the portion of the interview on 2/28 where she thinks she is going to be attending the press conference, but instead she was questioned and showed pics of SS's body part to identify and be told there were pics of S/A, she indicated this:

Det: how long have you been working at Coronado Springs
JS: for less than two weeks
Det: oh so you just started there
JS: yeah
Det: are you just like in training or how does it work
JS: yeah I'm in training right now
Det: okay what did you do before that
JS: I was a substitute teacher for a little bit but for the most part for the last few years I've just been living off disability

more disturbing in this interview (gawd there is so much): she is so focused on separating the issues, missing and S/A cant be connected. actually its downright weird to say what she said considering in this interview she says she needs more evidence but says she believes it about the 'sexual acts'...she doesnt refer to it as abuse.

JS: can I make one decision now and change my mind later if I decide not to press charges now could I change my mind and press charges later
Det: it's a lot to digest okay so you, I don't want to make you answer that right now you know um but when we come back we'll talk more about it okay when I come back.
Det: let's take some time to process everything cuz you're going through a lot right now but right now I mean, I mean in my eyes that it sounds bad but almost secondary because we want to worry about this afterwards
Det: she's our main focus
JS: that's where I'm at I'm I know that the sexual sexual acts happened but I'm not convinced that he didn't take her to school I'm not convinced that he's the reason she's gone cuz if this had been going on for so long
what's the motive why Monday why that day why the day after her birthday when we were supposed to spend the entire week together and have such a great time. <-----where is the outrage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its a must listen again (or first time). I would need to find the appropriate acceptable link to the audio interview. but the text is taken from the transcript.

and:

Det: who would have been driving your car between Monday and now other than you
JS: Stephan
Det: okay, 3:00 in the morning?
JS: if if he says he was out driving around trying to think trying to look think of places to look
for Madeline
Det: you didn't go with him to look?
JS: no
Det: why?
JS: I have to stay home take my meds and go to sleep
Det: BIG SIGH... okay

Yikes @Pruddennce ….. that is all quite disturbing IMO too.

This jumps off the page to me:

“JS: that's where I'm at I'm I know that the sexual sexual acts happened but I'm not convinced that he didn't take her to school I'm not convinced that he's the reason she's gone cuz if this had been going on for so long”

I don’t know what to make of that. Yet. But it almost appears IMO that a question to JS is that if this had been going on for so long, why did this occur* this weekend, why now? (And the first ‘this’ seems to be the now disclosed abuse / SA of MS.) In other words……. is JS here acknowledging that the events have been occurring previously, and thus there couldn’t really be a reason for this to have now happened IMO?

It almost seems her also now acknowledging a trigger or motive? She even uses the word motive! “what’s the motive?” Is that IMO an attempt to almost condone the behavior? SMH

*And context from the other part of the excerpt is when she says why Monday? Essentially why now?

One can only imagine what investigators, prosecutors, and the district attorney are pondering in this. MOO

 

[ShadyLady]

Pg 341 of 896:

Stephan had moved out of the home in the later part of 2023 (November/December).

Thanks for finding that. Still think the choice of the word "risk" seems nefariously odd....

 

[Seattle1]

I wonder if JS herself was having thoughts of harming MS out of jealousy. "I cannot risk it."

Harm MS while she slept? I hope not. The irony is that SS did.

 

[Megnut]

If only we knew what she meant by "it".

Can't chance having MS disrupt her sleep?

Can't chance missing her meds/routine abd slipping back into a dark place?

Can't chance letting her sleep in Room 4 and risk a Woody Allen situation?

Can't allow weird (for lack of an appropriately nasty word) sleeping arrangements because she can't risk it with outsiders living on the inside (room renters).

I have to believe that LE knows the context but it's possible that it was text which came as her decision following an in person conversation or phone call.

I think we can safely (sadly) conclude that, whatever it was that she couldn't risk, the risk was how it would impact JS.

Seems like poor MS got left out of everybody's calculus. (Everybody = SS, JS)

JMO

 

[katsrfun]

EDIT: I wrote an earlier message about my friend being abused by her father. She told me she felt incredibly guilty about it herself because she was starting to enjoy it and because it made her mother jealous. She said (at age 63) like she felt she almost lured him by being sexually provocative and appeared not to be bothered by it. I wonder if MS gave off the same vibes, not knowingly, but unintentionally. My friend didn't come to this realization until she was much older, so I don't think MS could understand the dynamics. My friend never told anyone either, until she was much older. However, her mother and brothers knew it and did nothing to protect her. When my friend aged out, he started to look for other victims. MOO. Katt

 

[ShadyLady]

If only we knew what she meant by "it".

Can't chance having MS disrupt her sleep?

Can't chance missing her meds/routine abd slipping back into a dark place?

Can't chance letting her sleep in Room 4 and risk a Woody Allen situation?

Can't allow weird (for lack of an appropriately nasty word) sleeping arrangements because she can't risk it with outsiders living on the inside (room renters).

I have to believe that LE knows the context but it's possible that it was text which came as her decision following an in person conversation or phone call.

I think we can safely (sadly) conclude that, whatever it was that she couldn't risk, the risk was how it would impact JS.

Seems like poor MS got left out of everybody's calculus. (Everybody = SS, JS)

JMO

What I thought of immediately was that their "3 way slumber parties" could not be risked because Maddie had started periods and could get preg. But, if this were the reason why let Maddie go with SS one more time? I am sure LE knows by now whether she was preg? I dont think they will disclose that till trial. That would explain a lot.
Also, gives me the creeps, but CS told LE that JS was bi.

 

[ttjo]

Pg 341 of 896:

Stephan had moved out of the home in the later part of 2023 (November/December).

are we sure?? I remember someone posting the he had actually moved out a year earlier, , because if he moved out in dec 23 to go home for a job, and in a month it fell through, thats a lot going one in a month? as well as all the talk about renting the room out why maddi never got it, because her dad wanted to rent it out. I know it was a surprise to hear he moved out in 2022 , let's check a couple sources.
where is @Pruddennce Im thinking she discovered that fact.

 

[FromGermany1]

Also, gives me the creeps, but CS told LE that JS was bi.

bbm
This brings us closer to the matter, I believe. I didn't know it.
Now think of the text again: Maddie doesn't sleep with me any longer; I can't risk it. I don't think, it had anything to do with the renting/not renting room #4, but with secrets, Js and SS had about bed routines (NOT to be confused with bedtime routines). Logically JS wasn't able/willing to answer the question, what this text meant. MOO

 

[ttjo]

are we sure?? I remember someone posting the he had actually moved out a year earlier, , because if he moved out in dec 23 to go home for a job, and in a month it fell through, thats a lot going one in a month? as well as all the talk about renting the room out why maddi never got it, because her dad wanted to rent it out. I know it was a surprise to hear he moved out in 2022 , let's check a couple sources.
where is @Pruddennce Im thinking she discovered that fact.

unless CS is the one that said it in an interview and he was wrong about the dates

 

[Megnut]

Do we know anything about the job that didn't work out? Did SS ever GO to said job? Bottom out for poor attendance in Day 1?

I'm not seeing a history of longevity...

JMO

 

[JennieM]

are we sure?? I remember someone posting the he had actually moved out a year earlier, , because if he moved out in dec 23 to go home for a job, and in a month it fell through, thats a lot going one in a month? as well as all the talk about renting the room out why maddi never got it, because her dad wanted to rent it out. I know it was a surprise to hear he moved out in 2022 , let's check a couple sources.
where is @Pruddennce Im thinking she discovered that fact.

This mentions December.

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Found Deceased Post in thread 'FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #9'

Jun 18, 2024

<modsnip - opinion stated as fact> Have any family members stepped forward and given their opinions on the situation? It’s so disgusting how badly Maddie was failed.

here is the grandmom's LE interview from the doc dump: redacted but you can figure out the names. as an aside, there are many many pages redacted. which makes it difficult at times to follow and piece some things together because entire pages are blacked out.

of note: the interview is so short.
- grandmom says SS (referred to him as an EX) has dropped off Madeline in the past, and then mentions URBANA, an apt...

• Pruddennce

• 

here is the grandmom's LE interview from the doc dump: redacted but you can figure out the names. as an aside, there are many many pages redacted. which makes it difficult at times to follow and piece some things together because entire pages are blacked out.

[…]

On February 26, _____ called and asked if ______walked to her office because she was not currently at school. ______stated was taken to school by Stephan, whom she knows as _____’s ex-boyfriend. believes _______and Stephan broke up in December when he moved out of the home. Stephan possibly came to the home for ________’s birthday. Stephan has taken to school in the past and stated he dropped her off at a nearby apartment complex named Urbana has never run away from home in the past.

 

[Slamalam]

EDIT: I wrote an earlier message about my friend being abused by her father. She told me she felt incredibly guilty about it herself because she was starting to enjoy it and because it made her mother jealous. She said (at age 63) like she felt she almost lured him by being sexually provocative and appeared not to be bothered by it. I wonder if MS gave off the same vibes, not knowingly, but unintentionally. My friend didn't come to this realization until she was much older, so I don't think MS could understand the dynamics. My friend never told anyone either, until she was much older. However, her mother and brothers knew it and did nothing to protect her. When my friend aged out, he started to look for other victims. MOO. Katt

I listened to a podcast last year about a celebrity who was SA’d when he was young and he said very similar things (that he grew to feel like it was something special between them, then felt jealous about this person’s adult relationships etc.).

 

[ttjo]

This mentions December.

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Found Deceased Post in thread 'FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #9'

Jun 18, 2024

<modsnip - opinion stated as fact> Have any family members stepped forward and given their opinions on the situation? It’s so disgusting how badly Maddie was failed.

here is the grandmom's LE interview from the doc dump: redacted but you can figure out the names. as an aside, there are many many pages redacted. which makes it difficult at times to follow and piece some things together because entire pages are blacked out.

of note: the interview is so short.
- grandmom says SS (referred to him as an EX) has dropped off Madeline in the past, and then mentions URBANA, an apt...

• Pruddennce

• 

here is the grandmom's LE interview from the doc dump: redacted but you can figure out the names. as an aside, there are many many pages redacted. which makes it difficult at times to follow and piece some things together because entire pages are blacked out.

[…]

On February 26, _____ called and asked if ______walked to her office because she was not currently at school. ______stated was taken to school by Stephan, whom she knows as _____’s ex-boyfriend. believes _______and Stephan broke up in December when he moved out of the home. Stephan possibly came to the home for ________’s birthday. Stephan has taken to school in the past and stated he dropped her off at a nearby apartment complex named Urbana has never run away from home in the past.

I would not be surprised if the date was mixed up by CS. but everything I search says 2023

 

[Gemmie]

are we sure?? I remember someone posting the he had actually moved out a year earlier, , because if he moved out in dec 23 to go home for a job, and in a month it fell through, thats a lot going one in a month? as well as all the talk about renting the room out why maddi never got it, because her dad wanted to rent it out. I know it was a surprise to hear he moved out in 2022 , let's check a couple sources.
where is @Pruddennce Im thinking she discovered that fact.

No, we're never sure when it's JS or SS doing the talking. lol That was JS stating that. Still Pg 341 of 896:



Also, her BFF said (Pg 107):

Stephen recently moved out of the home but he still visits often.

And a 13 yr old friend said (Pg 113):

[Friend] stated that he recently moved out of the residence for an unknown reason and when she asked Maddie why he did she “ignored the question,”

And the roommate said (Pg 872):

Stephan no longer lives in the home with JS and Maddie, as he moved out in December of 2023; however, he has come to visit two or three times since then
Lastly... G'ma (Pg 874) said:

JS and Stephan broke up in December when he moved out of the home.

 

[Curious Me]

June 16,2023( was it 23?) she texted "maddie isn't sleeping with me anymore I cant risk it ..."

I can't say for sure, but I thought JS was texting SS that statement "Maddie is no longer sleeping with me, I can't risk it." during the time SS was not living there.

I've lost track of when he lost his Disney job and if he moved out then or before the fall of 2023?

I remember she said he moved out in dec....but 2023?

Stephan had moved out of the home in the later part of 2023 (November/December).

IIRC, SS lost his job at Disney in Sept. 2023. He moved out that fall, around Nov 2023. In any case, if JS texted that to him in June 2023, then sounds like SS was still living there and they were discussing Maddie not sleeping in JS's bed. Was she concerned she had to keep up the all sleeping together arrangement as her not knowing cover? MOO, it seems the roommates, SS's parents, most likely JS parents, knew something about these weird sleeping arrangements, but if it was in JS's bed then she could make it sound like some kind of sick wholesome thing. Some kind of thing they did because, blame it on Maddie, she didn't like to sleep alone. IMO, it was JS and her dumb blind medicated and confused act they she used to cover up what was going on with apparently her blessing.

Oh, yeah, all MOO.​

 

[ttjo]

this is the sworn interview, broke up in 2022, stayed in her room for a while and later moved into bedroom no 4 , so he stayed there till 2023, so confusing cause CS said he realized in 2022 he was paying 600 a month b/c Stephan moved into his own room. Ill post that one next