Help me understand why you think she's a prime candidate for a deal in this case?
I’m not saying strangulation can’t be the manner of death, simply that a rage killing doesn’t line up with premeditation for me. In order for the prosecution to apply that, they have to be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the murder was premeditated, and I just don’t think they would be able to prove that if it was an in the moment rage killing due to him losing it because she rebuffed him or something. If that were the case, I would think they’d charge him with felony murder. The fact that they added premeditation tells me that there is some compelling evidence that he in fact thought about killing her and then carried that act out. I just think there was a clear motive to kill her and they have some evidence that they believe will hold up in court. MOO. I am certainly aware that strangulation takes long enough that he had time to think about his actions; my hang up is on in the moment rage being the motive — I don’t think prosecution could prove premeditation under those circumstances.
Any kind of deal for JS on the murder charge would imply she has something quite valuable to offer, such as direct knowledge of him killing MS and/or covering it up.
I'm with whoever brought up the use of a different car as perhaps being a signal of premeditation. He was driving the car his dad usually drove, according to the interview with his friend. So, why was he driving a different car?
nothing about this is normal. In any way shape or form.
Um yikes.I was horrified to learn that Maddie slept in the same bed with Jennifer and Stephan. It's so much worse. I cannot wait until she is charged.
"(Jennifer Soto) stated while they were together they… (Jennifer, Stephen and Madeline)… would either all sleep in the same bed or (Madeline) would sleep with her when Stephan was not there," one statement reads.
When asked if it was normal that Stephan and (Madeline) would sleep together without her being there, and she said yes, statements say.
"(Jennifer Soto) stated if she needed a good night sleep due to her anxiety, she would ask them (Stephen and Madeline) to sleep in a different bedroom."
Another statement reads, "Stephan stated (Madeline) always needed human contact when going to sleep. Stephan referred to it as "snuggling."
The conversations with Sterns came to an abrupt end when detectives revealed images allegedly found on Sterns' phone, depicting sex with the 13-year-old-girl.
Police: Madeline Soto’s mom said it was normal for teen to sleep in stepfather’s bed
Stephan Sterns said neither he nor Maddie Soto's mother were out searching the night she disappeared.www.wesh.com
A loved one of mine as an anxious teen slept on the floor in their parents’ room. I agree there were def other possible arrangements here that Jen should have been able to think of. It sounds like she prioritized her own sleep.I was commenting as I listened.
Am surprised in a way by having confirmation of the sleeping arrangements, but sadly also not.
It does "fit" with what we already knew of the clothing being in certain rooms, etc from earlier info, and also JS' mom saying MS didn't sleep alone.
It's one thing for MS to have had an anxious night or something and once in awhile sought comfort with her mom, but at 12, 13, even that is really a red flag if it is happening so often people know about it. Poor MS NEVER EVER should have been sharing a bed with her mother's boyfriend. Just WTF.
I would also suggest that 'going to McDonald's' and SS offering to drive her places and pick her up could have been a cover, too.
wow.
well, this is confirmation as to what grandmom (if translation is accurate) said in one of her interviews....Madeline didnt like to sleep alone, she had alot of fears. now the big question is, for me, who in this family or friends of JS KNEW she was allowing her daughter to sleep in the same bed on occasion with SS ALONE, and were not comfortable with knowing that and suspected something???????
RSBM.
