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at least one girl is seen in the body cams when LE goes to their house to "confirm clothing" and I didnt see her in any of the earlier office body camsI am blown away that neither of the two unnamed roommates who resided in the Soto home have uttered a sound. LE may have asked them not to speak on the case but IME there are always people who cannot wait to discuss their inside knowledge of a crime/criminal or case. Not only have we not heard word one from JS, but neither roommate has come forward with shock, dismay, I knew something was off, I would never have beleived this type statements?
I find that odd.
That female looks very young.at least one girl is seen in the body cams when LE goes to their house to "confirm clothing" and I didnt see her in any of the earlier office body cams View attachment 510065
There were a couple of nondisclosure agreements in the discovery docs so they may have been required to sign those in regards to the caseI am blown away that neither of the two unnamed roommates who resided in the Soto home have uttered a sound. LE may have asked them not to speak on the case but IME there are always people who cannot wait to discuss their inside knowledge of a crime/criminal or case. Not only have we not heard word one from JS, but neither roommate has come forward with shock, dismay, I knew something was off, I would never have beleived this type statements?
I find that odd.
Good catch.at least one girl is seen in the body cams when LE goes to their house to "confirm clothing" and I didnt see her in any of the earlier office body cams View attachment 510065
How did she know it was off in the first damn place??? Iat some point she learned it was off " so we have no way to track her"
Why bother? She already knew her kid was dead. Did mum give a media interview the first night? Did she look like she had been crying even?? I am seriously askingThere were two roommates. Or maybe Stephan made it seem like he was talking to Maddy. Hurry up, we got to go!
Did she say this before or after she said and wrote to Le docs that she saw her that morning getting ready for school!??returning to the complex at 8:20am as if he took her to school and was now going to help with the dog so JS wouldnt be suspicious? JS never said he returned at that time....in fact she said she heard people in the kitchen between 8-8:15am and 'thought' it might be Madeline and 'thought' Madeline went downstairs to get ready. again, her dog/leash story changed from 8:00-8:15am to 7:00-8:00am. according to JS, they didnt have any discussion about dropping her off until around 11-11:15am when she returned from her appointment and he was there and they 'chatted' about the dropoff. she asked him "what happened".
One of them is named in the docs I think. Not sure. May have been a random ex gf who was mentioned. Didn’t mention her name here because she’s not a suspect.I am blown away that neither of the two unnamed roommates who resided in the Soto home have uttered a sound. LE may have asked them not to speak on the case but IME there are always people who cannot wait to discuss their inside knowledge of a crime/criminal or case. Not only have we not heard word one from JS, but neither roommate has come forward with shock, dismay, I knew something was off, I would never have beleived this type statements?
I find that odd.
I thought I saw the same lady at the gran’s office no? In that body cam footage.Good catch.
jmo
Strangely? the attachment did not show up until I quoted your post."JS left the condo around 2:45pm to pick up MS and was at the school at 2:56 or 2:57. School did not let out until near 4:00, so she is plenty early."
Do all the students get out at 4 pm? Or does each student have different class schedules on different days? This day it seems that Jenn thought that Maddy got out of school at 3 pm, so she was right on time.
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SnippedHere are my notes from the documents covered in the Grey Hughes videos posted upthread (of the things I found important).
Jennifer’s Initial Statement to Police - 2/26/2024
At approximately 8:00 AM, she observed Madeline getting ready for school. Stephan took Madeline to school at approximately 8:30 AM and dropped her off near the intersection of Town Loop Blvd and Hunter’s Park Lane. At approximately 4:00 PM, she went to the school in an attempt to pick up Madeline, however, she never came out of the school. She searched the area for Madeline and after not finding her, she went to her mother’s office.
Stephan’s Initial Statement to Police - 2/26/2024
At approximately 8:25 - 8:40 PM, he dropped Madeline off about a block away from her school and watched her walk in the direction of the school. As he was driving away, he saw what appeared to be Madeline searching through her book bag. He then drove to a vape shop (but it was closed) and to his residence. He was home for approximately one hour before he went back to the vape shop to buy vape juice and then returned home and hung out with JS. He then ran errands and returned home at approximately 2:30 PM.
Stephan’s 2nd Statement to Police (1st Digitally Recorded) - 2/27/2024
He currently lives in North Port, FL but comes to Kissimmee occasionally to spend time with Jennifer and Maddie. He arrived at their house on 2/25/2024 at about 8:45 PM. When he arrived, Jennifer was still at work and he directed Madeline to get ready for bed (which consisted of taking a shower). When Jennifer came home, she told Stephan she wanted to sleep in and told him to sleep upstairs with Maddie. Stephan woke up the next morning between 7:00 - 7:15 AM to get an “early start” and grab food at McDonald’s before school. He and Madeline left the house between 7:30 - 7:45 AM and headed towards McDonald’s at 14001 Town Loop Blvd. On the drive there, Madeline slept the whole time and said she didn’t want anything from McDonald’s when they arrived. He then drove past McDonald’s towards the school and dropped Maddie off on the right side of the road, near the community south of the State Road 417 Overpass between 8:20 - 8:40 AM. According to Stephan, Maddie was going through a phase, was embarrassed by his vehicle, and didn’t like to be dropped off at the school in it. Maddie told Stephan she was going to hang out with her friends. Stephan watched in the rearview mirror as Madeline rummaged through her backpack as she walked in the direction of the school. He assumed she was looking for her headphones but later realized she’d left her phone at home. When presented with a map, he advised detectives that he dropped her off at the intersection of Lilac Cove Lane and Town Loop Blvd. He said it was maybe the 5th or 6th time he’d dropped her off and it was common for MS to ask to be dropped off near the school. He said Maddie enjoyed the cold weather and was wearing a hoodie when he dropped her off. When asked if he’d made a U-turn at any point, he said he made a U-turn at the church parking lot to “try to sell her on McDonald’s one more time” because he was still hungry. When asked to show him on the map, he said he was bad at reading maps and said he usually takes John Young Parkway. He explained that he uses landmarks because he doesn’t know street names. When asked if Jennifer was home when he returned home (prior to his trip back out to the vape shop), he said he thought so but then said he wasn’t sure because Jennifer had a blood appointment at some point during the day. He apologized and said “sorry, everything is a blur”. He then said he believed JS was home because she was trying to sleep in as much as she could because she was “messed up” with her work schedule.
Jennifer’s 2nd Statement to the Police (1st Digitally Recorded) - 2/27/2024
She confirmed she had a new job and had not attended Maddie’s party because she was at work. She said Maddie had a “makeshift room” in the living room that she only used to hang out in but never slept in.
[Detectives described this room as a portion of the living room turned into a bedroom with a folding divider between the bedroom space and the kitchen/dining room.]
She said sleeping arrangements depended on everyone’s schedule the next day. Sometimes they all slept in her king bed, other times SS slept upstairs alone and she and Maddie slept in her bed, and other times she would send Maddie and SS to sleep in the upstairs bedroom if she needed a good night’s sleep.
She said she left home at 2:30 to pick up Maddie from school and usually waited an hour in the pick up line. After the bell rang, she noticed Maddie wasn’t one of the first students to come out like she normally was. She left at approximately 4:10 when she realized she was holding up the pickup line. She went to check her mother’s office to see if Maddie had walked there but was told it was still too early for Maddie to have arrived. She then parked on Hunters Park Lane to see if she would see Maddie walking. She then contacted one of Maddie’s friends to see if MS was with her, and her friend said she hadn’t been in their first or second periods that day. She then drove back to the school to confirm with the attendance office, but the school was already closed when she got there. She drove back to her mother’s office and emailed a few of Maddie’s teachers. One of the teacher’s responded to say that Maddie had not made it to his class or to school at all that day. She said she then called 911.
After Stephan heard Maddie hadn’t shown up at school, JS says he met her at her mother’s office, where they waited for LE to arrive. She said she’d brought Maddie’s phone with her when she went to pick her up from school. Her sister and niece looked through Maddie’s phone for JS after she was determined to be missing but didn’t find anything weird. After they left her mother’s office that evening, they looked for Maddie in the Hunters Creek area and returned home at approximately 8:00 - 9:00 PM. When asked if they went back out that night, she said Stephan had gone back out in the middle of the night in her car.
TIMELINE
2/25/2024
2:00 PM - Maddie’s birthday party begins at her grandmother’s house
8:30 PM - Maddie’s aunt drops her off at home after the party
8:45 PM - SS arrives at Jenn and Maddie’s home
10:30 PM - JS arrives home from work
11:00 PM - JS sends Maddie and SS to bed in the upstairs bedroom marked “4”
2/26/2024
7:35 AM - SS is spotted on surveillance at the trash compactor in his father’s Lincoln; he throws a white trash bag filled with items (Maddie’s laptop, backpack, a white Croc) into the compactor
[Maddie is visible in the front passenger seat of the vehicle with her head tilted on her left shoulder, mouth open, and belted into the seat.]
7:50 AM - SS leaves the complex via the back gate [Maddie is visible in the passenger seat in the same position.]
8:00 - 8:15 AM - JS briefly wakes up when Stephan comes into the room to put the dog on a leash and then goes back to sleep
8:19 AM - SS enters the complex via the front gate near N. Hoagland Blvd [Maddie is visible in the passenger seat in the same position.]
8:31 AM - SS leaves the complex via the back gate [Maddie is visible in the passenger seat in the same position.]
9:00 AM - JS gets out of bed
9:30 AM - JS leaves home to go to a doctor’s appointment
9:40 AM - SS is spotted on a surveillance camera in the parking garage of Holiday Inn Club Vacations at 9271 S. John Young Parkway moving Maddie’s body from the passenger seat of the car to the trunk
10:15 AM - JS’s scheduled doctor’s appointment
I have wondered these things too!!Snipped
Thank you so much!!
I'd like to know (among many other things):
* How did he get her from the apartment to the car?
* When he returned to the apartment complex at 8:19am with her visible in the car and departed at 8:31am with visible in the same position in the car, what did he do?? Leave her in the car alone while he went to the apartment? Did JS go to the car? Did he stay in the car or in the parking area, maybe to check on garbage?
jmo
And I'm thinking of him hanging out in the living, where she had a corner that was hers. He had a room of his own, and she didn't, yet he hangs out in her area and it bothers her. The child had no peace with him around.From @cujenn81 's notes above:
- at their monthly check-in in December, January, and February, Maddie reported that things were improving at home and were better at school
- MS reported that her mom’s boyfriend lived with them and she didn’t like him because he was weird; when Maddie was pressed about why she thinks he’s weird, she said it was because he ate all their food, hangs out in the living room, and makes her feel uncomfortable; MS reported in December that he was moving out and that made her happy
- JS told her that Maddie was seeing a therapist weekly
- Maddie’s grades appeared to be stable and seemed to be improving since December
- her last check-in was on 2/6/2024 and Maddie said she was really happy and things were good at school and with mom
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She didn't like SS, he was "weird", things were better beginning in December 2023 when SS moved out. She and JS got on better, her schoolwork improved, she was happy SS was gone.
And then SS pops back in to the picture after her birthday party and she is dead within 24 hours
Poor Maddie.
...but I would believe there would have been near past conversations between JS and SS where JS lamented about how simple, stress free and relaxed her life would be but for....
I wonder why JS went so early? Has that been discussed anywhere? I'm not remembering if it was. I know I wouldn't want to just be sitting there waiting that long, especially if I was already "TIRED"."JS left the condo around 2:45pm to pick up MS and was at the school at 2:56 or 2:57. School did not let out until near 4:00, so she is plenty early."
Do all the students get out at 4 pm? Or does each student have different class schedules on different days? This day it seems that Jenn thought that Maddy got out of school at 3 pm, so she was right on time.
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