Have heard all kinds of theories about how this may have transpired from Dale snapping and killing Michelle to methodically planning to kill her. My question is and yes they have been posted before, what was Dale's motive? The reason I ask again is that I don't remember reading one so far that really fit into the equation of him either snapping or planning this out for this "specific" time period. Thanks
Just as you stated ^above^ you have read all kinds of theories *about how it transpired from Dale snapping to him methodically planning to kill her.. Within that multitude of posted theories VERY MANY OF THEM DISCUSS MOTIVE.. so it has and continues to be discussed and isn't absent from many of the theories posted in the last 15 threads..
Below jazzmaster in her opening sentence gets to the heart of *"motive"(BBM in Red).. Just as you've stated before for the most part the suspect/defendant/guilty party deny any involvement until their dying day thus leaving the true/real motive for why they committed the murder an unknown factor that can only be left theorized and never known for a fact..
To know what the true motive is, only the killer/abductor knows.
Here are a few possible motives:
1. jealousy - she moved on, maybe he didn't. *If he can't have her no one can.
2. Anger - at the way PC was edited and hearing the snide comments by michelle and judge set him off
3. financial - not having to pay child support. *There are quite a few court appearances by Dale involving him not paying CS.
4. Rage. He may have hit her during an argument after she arrived on 11-17, she threatened to call police. He prevented her from doing so.
5. Revenge. *Michelle hurt him and he wanted her to pay for this.
You have to admit all of these are plausible but we may never know the true reason. *What could make a person snap and kill someone? Don't know never been there, but Dale could have any or all of these 5 motives or another one. He has shown a pattern of hurting her physically and emotionally - what was the motive there?
So are saying he maybe had no reason or motive?
No, I don't see where anyone is stating that Dale Jr murdered Michelle for absolutely no reason, nor had any motive for murdering his children's mother.. I don't see that be stated nor do I see it being theorized that Dale murdered Michelle for no reason..
But what is a fact is what stilettos ends her OP with below(BBM in Red).
Not every other father has Dale's violent history. He has been involved with a killing once...it is no stretch to see him involved again. I don't think it has to be proven what motive is.
That's absolutely correct that motive is not part of the burden of proof of the DA when prosecuting those responsible for harming Michelle.. IANAL so I do not know the legal reason for that not being necessary but I do know that just as has been discussed by many(by yourself as well) that many many times the guilty party goes to their grave denying any involvement, nor even any knowledge of the murder even well after they've long since been convicted and some even sentenced to death.. Yet still their stance remains that they had ZERO INVOLVEMENT OR KNOWLEDGE.. along with that we are also kept from ever learning their true, accurate, and personal motive for why they killed the victim..
(contd BBM in Red below)- Stilettos continues thoroughly answering questioning of motive and of us ever knowing the real motive by stating that it is difficult to understand a mindset of someone whose murdered someone(not all but many have very illogical thought processes, beliefs, and even some with severe mental illness to boot).. Therefor it's very hard for "regular" or stable thinking folks to wrap their minds around what and especially why a killer has chosen to kill someone..
{snipped from Stilettos ^above^ post} I think trying to understand the mind of a man who abuses women is like trying to understand the Santa Ana wind...you'll never be able to catch it.
No, I am trying to say that attempting to understand a man who thinks it is ok to beat people may not be possible unless you are of the same mindset.
And if truly seeking to really get to the true motive of why Dale killed Michelle then you do have to truly be able to understand how such an illogical, unstable mind would look and view everything from that very unrealistic, extremely skewed, and unbalanced lens with which he is looking at EVERYTHING through.. That's a tough thing to be able to do..
And that's exactly what I see stilettos explaining in how it's an almost impossible feat to be able to do when one is of sound and stable mind..
Thus again that leads to theorizing on what might someone of that type illogical thinking have as his motive.. IMO nothing more than KISS is what is all boils down to.. Simple and basic.. And Dale has been rather simple and basic in that it all boils down to self, self worth, and a severe inability to control anger and therefor with him violent behaviors.. Just as there is a map in that case that clearly has Dale written all over it.. His repeated and continued violent criminal behaviors are a map as well that just make up another complete piece to the puzzle of Michelle's disappearance..
Below Fran's full post is spectacular in describing so much about the case and others like it..
How many Websleuthers have watched a case that has since been solved, that a main POI or possible perp, stopped talking to LE and was later found to NOT be the perp? meaning someone else was utlimately arrested and found guilty? ....................I haven't seen any that stopped talking to LE that were proved innocent, how about you?
IF it was so easy for this local blogger to find two alleged witnesses to seeing M's hummer in that complex previously, do you not think LE has gotten this info? Do you not think everyone in that complex hasn't been approached by LE. LE hasn't heard this?*
LE named DSjr. a SUSPECT. Not POI, but SUSPECT. There's a reason for that. They've been trained and have experience investigating crimes. They know what they're doing. DSjr. is suspected of doing harm to M. But, they are still investigating and IF another name comes up, they'll check it out. But for now, DSjr is the only one with motive, means, and opportunity....
Now, LE has to prove it. Where is Michelle?
JMHO
fran
Thanks for this great post, fran that speaks the truth in words easy to understand.. I respectfully snipped for emphasis on the portion that I find to be of most importance of again speaking the honest truth..
All jmo..
). And I know for me and my two sisters, if any of us went missing, there would be no scars or moles to report either (at least not easily seen). So I don't really feel the family is holding back. They want her found.