FL FL - Newberry, Skeletal Remains found in Septic Tank, Aug'17

[Otterly]

Here is the property search result for this add:
http://www.acpafl.org/ParcelResults.asp?Parcel=01804-009-000

Here is the tax records for this add: (The 1st link is now timing out for me and this link has the same information as far as names, just not the legal docs the 1st link has.)
https://www.alachua.county-taxes.com/public/real_estate/parcels/01804 009 000?year=2016

It seems the home was recently sold last year after belonging to the same man for 21 years.
I can guarantee LE is going to have some questions for him.

 

[NadirCake]

It seems the home was recently sold last year after belonging to the same man for 21 years.
I can guarantee LE is going to have some questions for him.

First and foremost "Have you ever rented out this property?"

 

[Gardener1850]

Sims said he could not release what type of bones were found, but said detectives are searching for any remaining bones.

Property records show Jathan Sean Barnes and Lesa Ann Delauder own the mobile home where the remains were found and bought the property from Wilfred James Schutt in June 2016.


Sims said the current homeowners are considered witnesses in the case.

http://www.gainesville.com/news/20170807/human-remains-found-in-newberry-septic-tank

 

[Gardener1850]

I suddenly have a feeling this person could be from anywhere in the US. :scared:

 

[Gardener1850]

First and foremost "Have you ever rented out this property?"

This is a good point. Many mobile homes in Florida are rentals. If there are a lot of past tenants, LE will have many people to question.

 

[carbuff]

And if that opening in the back yard is as accessible as it looks, somebody could have come on the property, opened the cover, and dropped a body in. It would only take a few minutes if you have a large pipe wrench to loosen the bolts on the lid.

 

[Spellbound]

From property records online, I believe the previous owner most likely rented this mobile home, before selling it to the current owners. His physical address is only .2 miles away from the home. I would guess LE will be looking into all the recent renters.

I imagine the bones would not be too old, would they? How quickly would a body disintegrate/fall apart under these conditions? Seems it would clog the septic quite quickly.

 

[LietKynes]

So I'm assuming the tank was pumped before this with no problems... so the body was placed more recently ?

And I highly doubt it was anything but foul play-- since inside a septic tank indicates that these remains were willfully concealed. No one wanders around and happens to fall into a s. tank.
:moo:

 

[crhedBngr]

This is a good point. Many mobile homes in Florida are rentals. If there are a lot of past tenants, LE will have many people to question.

. . . and to add to the suspect list, the mobile home could have been rented to snowbirds, tired of those long, northern winters.

JMHO

 

[LietKynes]

. . . and to add to the suspect list, the mobile home could have been rented to snowbirds, tired of those long, northern winters.

JMHO

RSBM

Hmmmm....
Did any pensioner or retiree go south for the winter and come back without their spouse/partner ? Someone who might not go missing on anyone's radar ?

Although I question the idea of some elderly dude (or old woman) having the strength to heave an adult corpse into the septic tank !

There was a 48 Hours program (I think it was 48Hrs.) about a lady who was a dog breeder and at some point dressed like her father .... lived in house and property willed to her -- and was murdered by persons' unknown and placed in her own septic. discovered a few years later, as I remember. Her skull was intact enough to ID her and determine cod.
Towards the end of her life-- she'd withdrawn somewhat from society--- and there was no one to report her missing.
No one knows what she was going through in her last days or even months ?
She'd possibly made some unsavory 'friends' out of loneliness ?

Sorry if I've gotten the facts all wrong ; it's been some time since I'd watched it.
Creepy, sad case.
:moo:

 

[Gardener1850]

I don't know anything about septic tanks. Do they need to be pumped fairly often? I was thinking this could be someone missing for decades. Last year there was a man found in a Septic tank who had gone missing in the 1980's: http://www.news.com.au/national/que...m/news-story/d2c9a51bd6ccf44e28d075da53b59f13

 

[carbuff]

How often a tank needs to be pumped varies quite a lot, mostly depending on how much stuff is flushed into it, and whether it's easy for the bacteria in the tank to digest. Lots of paper or food makes it clog up faster.

It's not usually pumped completely empty, so it would be possible for a body to be missed in an earlier pumping. The only way the pumper would notice is if part of the body clogged the hose. Like the way you vacuum behind the couch and find the dead bird your cat brought in...

 

[dotr]

RSBM

Hmmmm....
Did any pensioner or retiree go south for the winter and come back without their spouse/partner ? Someone who might not go missing on anyone's radar ?

Although I question the idea of some elderly dude (or old woman) having the strength to heave an adult corpse into the septic tank !

There was a 48 Hours program (I think it was 48Hrs.) about a lady who was a dog breeder and at some point dressed like her father .... lived in house and property willed to her -- and was murdered by persons' unknown and placed in her own septic. discovered a few years later, as I remember. Her skull was intact enough to ID her and determine cod.
Towards the end of her life-- she'd withdrawn somewhat from society--- and there was no one to report her missing.
No one knows what she was going through in her last days or even months ?
She'd possibly made some unsavory 'friends' out of loneliness ?

Sorry if I've gotten the facts all wrong ; it's been some time since I'd watched it.
Creepy, sad case.
:moo:

A quick search and found quite a few septic tank murders. All seem to be female, maybe because they are smaller and easier to fit in the tank?
Just horrible, insult to injury. It must make for particularly unpleasant working environment for LE.
imo, speculation.

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/jan/11/news/mn-7138

[h=1]Skeleton in the Septic Tank Reopens Mystery of Missing Millionaire[/h]
[h=2]Murder: Transvestite heiress disappeared 10 years ago from her Rhode Island mansion. Police are tight-lipped about their investigation.[/h]
January 11, 1998

mother-of-three found strangled in church septic tank... and her in-laws could face murder charges

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nap--murder-charges-follow.html#ixzz4p8TIC3M8
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[url]http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/childrens-author-helen-baileys-body-8450035

[/URL][h=1]Children's author Helen Bailey's body found in septic tank in her own garden with remains of pet dog[/h]The writer's partner Ian Stewart has appeared in court charged with her murder as police await details of how Ms Bailey died

[url]http://www.krgv.com/story/35985788/possible-remains-found-in-septic-tank-near-elsa
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[h=3]Investigation into Remains Found in Septic Tank Near Elsa Underway[/h] Posted: Jul 27, 2017

ELSA – The remains found inside a septic tank near Elsa are believed to be of a woman, according to the Hidalgo County Sheriff's Office.

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http://wjhl.com/2017/04/05/hcso-body-found-in-septic-tank-overflow-pond-in-rogersville/
April 5, 2017

[h=1]HCSO: Body found in septic tank overflow pond in Rogersville[/h]

HAWKINS COUNTY, TN (WJHL) – The Hawkins County Sheriff’s Office confirmed a woman’s body was found in a septic tank overflow pond in Rogersville Wednesday afternoon.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

It is still unsure if the bones found were of an adult or child.

...we got to allow them to take time to view the bones, and do their process and from that point hopefully they will let us know whether or not this is going to be an active crime scene or not,” said Sgt. Sims.

http://www.wcjb.com/content/news/Human-bones-found-at-Newberry-home-439084173.html

 

[MelmothTheLost]

A quick search and found quite a few septic tank murders. All seem to be female, maybe because they are smaller and easier to fit in the tank?

I suspect we can rule out anyone significantly obese as well.

 

[Spellbound]

I wonder if any "renters" left suddenly without paying .... ? Or was the home empty for a period of time so it was an "easier opportunity" to dump a body.

 

[Jax49]

I don't know anything about septic tanks. Do they need to be pumped fairly often? I was thinking this could be someone missing for decades. Last year there was a man found in a Septic tank who had gone missing in the 1980's: http://www.news.com.au/national/que...m/news-story/d2c9a51bd6ccf44e28d075da53b59f13

I've owned my home for over twenty years and only had to have the septic system emptied once.

 

[Jax49]

Sheriff’s detectives pursue leads as septic tank bones are cleaned


http://www.gainesville.com/news/201...pursue-leads-as-septic-tank-bones-are-cleaned

Alachua County sheriff’s investigators have finished gathering bones from a Newberry septic tank and are pursuing leads, agency spokesman Art Forgey said Tuesday.

 

[watcher9]

Have they determined yet if they were able to recover a complete set of skeletal remains?

 

[GigTu]

I'm disgusted. No doubt, whomever hid the body in there thought they got away with something. Won't they be surprised.