FL FL - Noemi Bolivar, 21, went for a walk, Hollywood, 11 Feb 2021

[SolveigtheSavage]

I guess there are more NB's than I had thought. I was just hoping it would lead to something in this case. So many questions.

 

[tiffkinsadder]

Prayers

 

[DogRescuer]

As it happens, I followed a case years ago where a young woman went missing in a well-frequented nature park and massive searches ensued. When the body was found two months later by chance, a lot of people had stopped believing she could still be within the park.

I remember a very similar case of a young lady disappearing from a popular park seemingly without a trace. Her thread was buzzing with theories. She was found in the general area months later, and sadly, she had taken her own life.

I am not insinuating that this is the case with Noemi, however, I agree that we need to be careful with blanket statements of "if X happens, then Y must/can't happen". (In this case, the comment to which Maljako responded, read "Self harm wouldn’t hide a body." No, we don't know that.)

 

[swedeheart]

 

[SimplyCass]

I'm skeptical of some of Loudan's conclusions. He says that the nature center was open until 7:30 p.m. The main Anne Kolb site does say that, but I don't think that's correct. Broward Park press release dated 3/8/21 says hours are limited to:

9 a.m. to 5 p.m. for nature centers
9 a.m. to 6 p.m. for regional parks/natural areas

Going by that, even today - not just in February - it should closed at 5 p.m., or 6 p.m. at latest if (for some reason) Anne Kolb was considered a park/natural area.

He seems to suggest that Noemi would have a decent amount of time to spend at the area, but I'm skeptical. If my mapping of the bus schedule is correct, she could not have exited the bus any earlier than 5:02 p.m.

If she exited at Sheridan S/Anne Kolb PK , it's 0.5 miles/10 minutes to walk inside Anne Kolb




But there's no crosswalk or light - so I doubt she exited here.

Here's the walking route from A1A/Sheridan:



Google Maps, for whatever reason, won't show this route. If you put in walking directions from A1A/Sheridan to Anne Kolb, it maps a fairly roundabout route that's 8.7 miles and nearly three hours. But there is a sidewalk, which adds about 0.4 miles.

Let's round up to 1.0 mile, maybe 20 minutes? The bus schedule says it drives past Sheridan/US 1 at 5:02 p.m., which is about 1.7 miles from A1A/Sheridan. So a conservative time to arrive there -maybe 5:08 p.m.? 20 minutes to walk to the gate of Anne Kolb - 5:30. It seems to me it's a really short period of time to enjoy the center.

 

[oceanstarryeyes]

I'm skeptical of some of Loudan's conclusions. He says that the nature center was open until 7:30 p.m. The main Anne Kolb site does say that, but I don't think that's correct. Broward Park press release dated 3/8/21 says hours are limited to:

9 a.m. to 5 p.m. for nature centers
9 a.m. to 6 p.m. for regional parks/natural areas

Going by that, even today - not just in February - it should closed at 5 p.m., or 6 p.m. at latest if (for some reason) Anne Kolb was considered a park/natural area.

He seems to suggest that Noemi would have a decent amount of time to spend at the area, but I'm skeptical. If my mapping of the bus schedule is correct, she could not have exited the bus any earlier than 5:02 p.m.

If she exited at Sheridan S/Anne Kolb PK , it's 0.5 miles/10 minutes to walk inside Anne Kolb

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But there's no crosswalk or light - so I doubt she exited here.

Here's the walking route from A1A/Sheridan:

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Google Maps, for whatever reason, won't show this route. If you put in walking directions from A1A/Sheridan to Anne Kolb, it maps a fairly roundabout route that's 8.7 miles and nearly three hours. But there is a sidewalk, which adds about 0.4 miles.

Let's round up to 1.0 mile, maybe 20 minutes? The bus schedule says it drives past Sheridan/US 1 at 5:02 p.m., which is about 1.7 miles from A1A/Sheridan. So a conservative time to arrive there -maybe 5:08 p.m.? 20 minutes to walk to the gate of Anne Kolb - 5:30. It seems to me it's a really short period of time to enjoy the center.

There’s a bus stop in front of Anne Kolb entrance.

 

[SimplyCass]

There’s a bus stop in front of Anne Kolb entrance.

Yes, I believe that's Sheridan/Anne Kolb PK. However, there's no stop light or crosswalk. And LE says that she exited at the 800 Sheridan block so I'm inclined to believe that she did exit at A1A/Sheridan and walked a mile to the nature center entrance.

 

[FruitSnack]

Woman missing for several weeks found naked in Delray Beach storm drain How crazy is this!?

 

[MissUnderstood]

Woman missing for several weeks found naked in Delray Beach storm drain How crazy is this!?

weird!!!!!

 

[moonrise]

Is there a chance this could be Noemi?

(Her name is so pretty and unusual. )

 

[dimples37398]

Omg wouldn’t that be crazy, it looks like a straight shot , around 30 ish miles. Is there a chance she somehow fell in somewhere and made her way that far?? I know the missing time frame doesn’t match but I am just trying to hope she is alive and safe somewhere. My oldest is on the spectrum and I can’t imagine

 

[houndpounder]

The article states this woman in the drain went missing March 3rd, it’s not Noemi.

 

[dimples37398]

I can’t find any missing women on March 3rd from palm beach county. Is it possible they asked the woman and she was confused about times and dates, where she is from? I searched fb and the palm beach county sites.

 

[dimples37398]

The article states this woman in the drain went missing March 3rd, it’s not Noemi.

I agree if the time frame they have is correct, it is way off.

 

[CocoChanel]

I am guessing they came to the estimate that the woman had been in the storm drain since @ March 3 by estimating how long a human could survive there. I am sure someone scholarly has the formulas and calculations to determine that. And while that may be accurate, perhaps this woman was ‘lost’ prior to that date, and only ended up down there somehow someway later. I truly hope this IS Noemi. It would be one of the best outcomes we could hope for.

 

[dimples37398]

Crews Rescue Naked Woman Stuck for ‘Significant Time' in Storm Drain

"You could look at her and see, she was down there for some time," Moschella said.

Police are investigating how long the woman was in the drain after she told officers she had been in the system for "a significant time - perhaps days, perhaps weeks.”

 

[dimples37398]

I am guessing they came to the estimate that the woman had been in the storm drain since @ March 3 by estimating how long a human could survive there. I am sure someone scholarly has the formulas and calculations to determine that. And while that may be accurate, perhaps this woman was ‘lost’ prior to that date, and only ended up down there somehow someway later. I truly hope this IS Noemi. It would be one of the best outcomes we could hope for.

Likely not her I know but I still hope and wish, would it be possible for someone to survive longer drinking dirty water and doing things like that to survive? The drain she was rescued from, the grate was bolted so they believe she entered somewhere a good distance away. I don’t know much about it but could someone fall in a body of water and end up in the drain system? She was too weak to stand at all when they pulled her out.

 

[SimplyCass]

I am guessing they came to the estimate that the woman had been in the storm drain since @ March 3 by estimating how long a human could survive there. I am sure someone scholarly has the formulas and calculations to determine that. And while that may be accurate, perhaps this woman was ‘lost’ prior to that date, and only ended up down there somehow someway later. I truly hope this IS Noemi. It would be one of the best outcomes we could hope for.

Unless I misread, authorities think this person has been missing since March 3, not stuck there since March 3.

 

[modesty blaise]

Poor woman! Goodness.
I wonder, mental issues or held somewhere and escaped.

 

[dimples37398]

Unless I misread, authorities think this person has been missing since March 3, not stuck there since March 3.

That seems like what they are thinking, I just wonder if they are going on what she says or they found her missing persons report. I looked on all the sites and on Facebook and Instagram, I couldn’t find a missing woman reported on March 3rd.