FL FL - Patty & Peggy McDaniel, 17 yo twins, Pompano Beach, 15 Sept 1979

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Alleykins said:
Thank you for that. I appreciate the background information. You're right, your uncle was more than just the man found in the trunk, he was a victim, too, who deserves justice. He sounds like a hardworking family man, so I hope you will forgive us if we were insensitive. Sometimes, all we know is what is in the media and some folks' imaginations.
I would ask that if your family has any information at all, no matter how small or unimportant it may seem, about Peggy and Patty, to please contact investigators, if you haven't already.
And you are welcome to stay and lend to this conversation at your discretion.
Thank you again.
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Joyce and I have come a long way in the past year with the case.however,we are still at a roadblock.
 
Age progression to age 58:
Patty Lisa McDaniel – The Charley Project

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Peggy Leslie McDaniel – The Charley Project

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Gardener1850 said:
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Patty Lisa McDaniel

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Peggy Leslie McDaniel

Patty and Peggy disappeared on September 15,1979 in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. They went to a Disco by the name "The Plank". A person they were known to be with was found deceased in the trunk of a car four days later. Neither Patty nor Peggy has been seen since.

Case Info:
Name: Patty Lisa McDaniel
Case Classification: Endangered Missing
Missing Since: September 15, 1979
Location Last Seen: Pompano Beach, Broward County, Florida

[h=2]Physical Description[/h] Date of Birth: circa 1962
Age: 17 years old
Race: White
Gender: Female
Height: 4'6"
Weight: 115-120 lbs.
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Blue
Nickname/Alias: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: She had broken right lower arm as a result of playing with a cousin.

[h=2]Identifiers[/h] Dentals: Available; right upper front tooth chipped.
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Available

[h=2]Clothing & Personal Items[/h] Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Shoes size 6 1/2, glasses.

[h=2]Circumstances of Disappearance[/h] Patty disappeared with her twin Sister Peggy on September 15,1979 in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. They went to a Disco by the name "The Plank". A person they were known to be with was found deceased in the trunk of a car four days later. Neither Patty nor Peggy has been seen since.

[h=2]Investigating Agency(s)[/h] Agency Name: Lauderhill Police Department
Agency Contact Person: Detective Lauer
Agency Phone Number: (954) 497-4700
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: N/A

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 34730


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Name: Peggy Leslie McDaniel
Case Classification: Endangered Missing
Missing Since: September 15, 1979
Location Last Seen: Pompano Beach, Broward County, Florida

[h=2]Physical Description[/h] Date of Birth: circa 1962
Age: 17 years old
Race: White
Gender: Female
Height: 4'6"
Weight: 115-120 lbs.
Hair Color: Brown/light brown/naturally wavey
Eye Color: Blue
Nickname/Alias: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

[h=2]Identifiers[/h] Dentals: Not Available
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Available

[h=2]Clothing & Personal Items[/h] Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Shoes size 7.

[h=2]Circumstances of Disappearance[/h] Peggy disappeared with her twin sister Patty on September 15,1979 in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. They went to a Disco by the name "The Plank". A person they were known to be with was found deceased in the trunk of a car four days later. Neither Patty nor Peggy has been seen since.

[h=2]Investigating Agency(s)[/h] Agency Name: Lauderhill Police Department
Agency Contact Person: Detective Lauer
Agency Phone Number: (954) 497-4700
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: N/A

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 34729


3719DFFL - Peggy Leslie McDaniel
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puzzleme said:
Thank you for creating this thread! I saw it on the doe network and thought this needs to be on WS! Also they remind me of the buckskin doe.

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Hello and thanks for putting this site together. I remember meeting Patty and Peggy a couple of times. Somewhere in the 'family tree' of relatives is how I knew them. I think cousins? Not % 100 sure. Anyway.. Lately, I've been wondering whatever happened about this? So a search led here. I recall the property that I last talked to them at in Live Oak. (My Mom's sister's house) I never really talked to them much, yet I remember them. What is going on with this case now? Any updates? My memory is not what all it used to be in the 70's but I recall asking some of the relatives, there in Live Oak what all happened with Patty and Peggy? Never did get any answers. No one would talk about it. I ask anyone on here that if you can help solve this, to please help.
 
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It's really hard to recall those old conversations that I had and with whom exactly. But, I do recall asking as to what all happened. I thought there was some news article that they had found their remains? I can't remember about the particulars as it's been so long ago. I do know that no one wanted to talk to me about what happened there in Live Oak. And to this day, I've thought that was odd and strange. That made me ask more questions until I was ignored. So I stopped asking decades ago. Biggest thing I recall was that many of them were very unhappy to even discuss it. I wish I could recall all of the conversations at that time. I was never really close to anyone from that side of my relatives family, so it's difficult to remember those times. I'm not online very much but I will check back here once in a while to see what all is up.
 
Lavender Moon said:
Welcome to Websleuths, snook eagle! I pray there will be progress in solving this mystery.
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Amen. Yes there should be progress and hopefully it will be solved. I read through this thread trying to learn what all is going on. Rarely, do I think or even recall this anymore about them, but for some extremely odd reason, the last two days I've wondered what did actually happen from this? That is the question. So a search has led me to here. It still does not sit well with me the responses that I received when I asked a couple questions so many years ago. This I do remember. I could understand that no one wanted to talk about it at the time. It was awkward and just something most will not do. For me, it (learning about Patty & Peggy) started with a news paper article. It was a news article, that I read, when I learned something bad happened, that I pointed it out to my family. No one, on our family side, even knew anything had happened to them for a good while. No one up there even mentioned it to any of us. So, the next time I went up to Live Oak I was going to ask a question or two. And I did. To this day, it has not satisfied me.
 
shadowdancer said:
There are some similarities, and they should be submitted, but I really don't believe either of them to be the same person as Eldorado Jane Doe.

The difference between the height that the twins probably were (5'6) and the height of Eldorado Jane Doe (5'11) is way, way out.

The looks just don't quite match either.
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The female on the right looks older imo.
 
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Peggy Leslie McDaniel

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Patty Lisa McDaniel

Twin sisters Peggy Leslie and Patty Lisa McDaniel, age 17, went missing on 15 September 1979 from Pompano Beach, Florida.

Their parents were divorced and the girls grew up with their mother, Joyce Rivituso, in New Jersey.

Rivituso decided to separate them so they could become more independent of one another, and sent Peggy to live with her father and his new wife in Live Oak, Florida. The girls missed each other so much, however, that in early 1979, Patty went to live with her father and stepmother as well.

During the summer of 1979, Peggy and Patty got to know a 19-year-old man named Marvin Warren. They ultimately left with Warren and his friend, 36-year-old Eddie Gross, to Pompano Beach, Florida, 365 miles from Live Oak. The twins got jobs there, and Gross rented an apartment for everyone to live in.

A few weeks after their move to Pompano Beach, Peggy and Patty sent a letter to their mother asking for their help to move back to New Jersey. They didn't include a phone number to reach them, only a mailing address.

Rivituso wrote back telling them to go to the airport and call her collect as soon as possible. Her daughters didn't call or write her, so she sent a second letter with the same instructions, but she still didn't hear back.

Rivituso then called Pompano Beach Police Department to ask them to perform a welfare check on Patty and Peggy. Officers with the Lauderhill Police Department told her the twins may have witnessed a homicide, and Rivituso immediately went to Florida.

When she arrived, the police told her Peggy had filed a missing persons report for Patty on September 13, saying she had been missing for two days, but Patty went to the police station the next day and canceled it.

Afterwards, a 25-year-old man named Nelson George Johnson confronted Gross and accused him of hiding Patty during the time she was missing. Johnson then went home to his family and told them he was going to take Peggy and Patty to a disco club called The Plank.

That night, September 15, Peggy, Patty and Johnson all disappeared. Four days later, Johnson's body was found in the trunk of his car behind a tire store. He'd been shot to death. His vehicle had been wiped clean of fingerprints and a briefcase containing $1,100 in cash was missing; it was never located. Johnson's murder has never been solved.

When questioned by police, Gross claimed Patty and Peggy had left their apartment with a man in a white Chevrolet Vega a week before Johnson's murder. Police checked the apartment and could find no sign of the twins or any evidence that they'd ever lived there. Their bicycles were later found at Warren's mother's home.

A year after the twins disappeared, someone broke into their father's home and took only their clothes. Rivituso doesn't believe the burglar was either of her daughters, since they had keys to the house and wouldn't need to break in. She speculates that whoever committed the burglary wanted to make it look like Peggy and Patty were alive and had left of their own free will.

There was a possible sighting of Patty and Peggy at a truck stop on the Florida Turnpike after they disappeared. A woman working there allowed the two girls to stay with her for some time because she was concerned for their safety; they told her they were being stalked.

The two girls told the woman they were thinking of going to their uncle's home in Vero Beach, Florida; the McDaniels did have an uncle in Vero Beach. The woman stated the twins simply vanished from her home one day, taking their belongings with them.

Patty and Peggy's mother believes her daughters witnessed Johnson's murder and were killed as a result. There has been no sign of them since 1979.


LINKS:
Peggy Leslie McDaniel – The Charley Project
Patty Lisa McDaniel – The Charley Project

 
There's a good chance they were murdered, but I don't recall reading about a truck stop worker stating she allowed two girls who could have been Patty and Peggy stay with her for some time after the murder. Based on that, it sounds like there's also a chance they may have escaped and disappeared for their own safety. Unless there's a chance they were the murderers and took the money? Kinda like a Thelma & Louise thing and they've been on the lam for all this time? I'm not trying to cast a shadow on them, but it does beg the possibility, as Johnson's murder has never been solved.
 
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