FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #33

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I dont get it Noway.... NO WAY i would put kids out there like that, for no apparent reason either.
 
I don't think Vinsons getting their truck back cleared them. And really the only way we know he got the truck and trailer back is he said it right? They are trying to save their business and I could imagine them lying about that.
 
Houndstooth, the dumpster was not emptied at the gano house so she could not have been dumped in it.
 
As I understand it :

1. Somer walked from school with her friend M ; they walked along Gano.

2. Somer ran ahead,and caught up with her siblings in the 1100 block of Gano.She became upset after a conversation with her sister,and ran ahead.Her siblings lost sight of her in a large group of kids walking along Gano.

3.She was seen at the propane tanks on Gano.

4. She was seen at the Gano House by a worker,who said she praised their work,and then left the way she came.

5.Connie S's daughter saw Somer at the junction of Gano and Grove Park Drive. * Somer's siblings did not see her at all on the rest of their walk home. We do not know who, if anyone,she was with when Connie S's daughter saw her.*

I have been thinking in too much of a linear way, because I placed her at the corner of Gano and Grove Park, AFTER she exited the Gano House. It could easily happened that she walked back to the Gano House AFTER she saw Connie S's daughter. Didn't an anonymous caller suggest that LE check the Gano House and dumpster ? They must have seen something ?

For what it's worth, I believe that most construction companies -- even small ones -- start work early, about 7a.m., and finish up early too, usually around 3p.m. * Speculating * that someone could have offered a ride, or gone to the park with Somer ?
 
NSC said:
Hey Doc - do you think a project like the gano house would have had black contractor bags on site??

And what do you really think of the statement? If you look at statement analysis - chick p posted it and I posted it once before -- and someone else mentioned recently - it sounds like the Susan Smith - SHE WONT BE THERE - to be the fly on the wall to read the clock/time on THIS interview - how would he know she WOULD not be there -- Unless M tells them what she knows? Unless he knew M had nothing to tell - Who knows this guy prob has a alibi and innocent bystander -

This article was brought to my attention today -- I thought NOTHING of it -- I think it could be a 0 or it could be a 10 -- nothing in between - KWIM?
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It sounds like he knows something. Good work. I hope they interviewed him very closely as to his alibi. Something tells me Somer could have gone home with this little girl and met her end there. Only my opinion.
 
Yall are you understanding the shortcuts through the park? It totally takes the thinking away they she would only be able to get home on Gano to Debarry - I am gonna make some maps!
 
Here is one map showing shortcut from The Park onto Grove Park Rd just above Arbor Circle - cross the road and continue down path taking you out to Briarwood - you need to go from Google to bing and back and forth you will see how it flows. But I am mapping it so you know how to look..
 

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My thought on the shortcut was Willow to Arbor and through friend's yard to DeBarry.

Why to Briarwood ?

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Looking at map, she could have gone on Arbor Circle to friend's and then onto DeBarry.
 
liz b. said:
As I understand it :

1. Somer walked from school with her friend M ; they walked along Gano.

2. Somer ran ahead,and caught up with her siblings in the 1100 block of Gano.She became upset after a conversation with her sister,and ran ahead.Her siblings lost sight of her in a large group of kids walking along Gano.

3.She was seen at the propane tanks on Gano.

4. She was seen at the Gano House by a worker,who said she praised their work,and then left the way she came.

5.Connie S's daughter saw Somer at the junction of Gano and Grove Park Drive. * Somer's siblings did not see her at all on the rest of their walk home. We do not know who, if anyone,she was with when Connie S's daughter saw her.*

I have been thinking in too much of a linear way, because I placed her at the corner of Gano and Grove Park, AFTER she exited the Gano House. It could easily happened that she walked back to the Gano House AFTER she saw Connie S's daughter. Didn't an anonymous caller suggest that LE check the Gano House and dumpster ? They must have seen something ?

For what it's worth, I believe that most construction companies -- even small ones -- start work early, about 7a.m., and finish up early too, usually around 3p.m. * Speculating * that someone could have offered a ride, or gone to the park with Somer ?
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If this statement by kyle is true, Somer would have gone back toward the school, wouldn't she? I am assuming she approached the Gano house from the direction of the school. Of course, I don't think I have ever heard from which direction she came to the Gano house. I guess she could have passed it by on her way home then doubled back and came to the Gano house from toward Debarry, thus never being seen by the crossing guard at Debarry. It would help if we knew what time kyle saw her and what time CS's daughter saw her, and what time it was when she separated from the little girl who said she walked home with Somer that day. I suppose LE has all that information and have determined the time line of who was the last to see Somer that day, but are not releasing that information.

I am wondering now about MC telling her uncle she walked home with Somer that day. Did she mean her home or Somer's home?
 
I remember reading that she walked from the school with her friend M for about 5 minutes. She then caught up with her siblings in the 1100 block of Gano. As far as I can tell she didn't see M again. The whole scenario that was given by the worker at the Gano House does not sound true to me. Something's off there IMO.
 
Her wording tells me somer walked her home, plus her house is on the way to somers. Going to somers first then mc going home would be backwards, kwim?
 
I thought Kyle just meant that Somer exited the yard the way she came in.
 
IIRC, the quote was that she went "around the house" at Gano. Whatever that means.

Did she go into the back yard?

Someone saw Somer in front of the Gano house. The workers were questioned by LE because someone saw Somer there on the sidewalk and she was seen nowhere else, except by the little M girl that walked with Somer.

LE told Kyle that HE was the last KNOWN person to see Somer alive, but we have this little girl that saw Somer WHEN?

Seriously, why would Kyle say that he saw Somer? He must have. Why make up a story that puts you in the microscope of hundreds of LE? Remember, the reporter called Kyle, so Kyle is not some serial confessor.

Everything is totally mum on Kyle. Everyone else seems to have statements and are people that are identified by first and last name. What's up with Kyle?
 
http://www.wftv.com/video/21409330/

Ryan Hughes talked over the phone with Kyle.

Kyle says that Somer told workers they were doing a good job on the renovations. LE questioned Kyle and George CV.

Not calling Gano house the murder scene. (Mary Justino)

GCV worked at Gano site 2 months ago. Sister says GCV passed polygraph conducted by Sheriff's office.

Somer's body will not be released in time for services.

Again ... George and Kyle are not suspects in this case.



Hmm. Don't know if that means they have been cleared.
 
Yes, I do believe that she went into the yard of the Gano House. What absolutely does not ring true for me is what Kyle says happened. That comment about the work ? Then, says nothing else and simply leaves the yard ? I just do not buy it at all. It is likely that Kyle realised that someone saw her go in the yard,perhaps they were the person who called LE, and told them to search the Gano House and the dumpster. Kyle would have to tell LE something,like what she said or did. *Speculation * If Connie S's daughter saw Somer BEFORE she went into the yard, then it becomes even more suspicious, IMO. Would it be around Kyle's quitting time ?
I thought that Somer did not see M again after she ran off. The narrative I read said that she caught up with her siblings in the 1100 block of Gano. She ran away from M after they had a disagreement.
 
human said:
IIRC, the quote was that she went "around the house" at Gano. Whatever that means.

Did she go into the back yard?

Someone saw Somer in front of the Gano house. The workers were questioned by LE because someone saw Somer there on the sidewalk and she was seen nowhere else, except by the little M girl that walked with Somer.

LE told Kyle that HE was the last KNOWN person to see Somer alive, but we have this little girl that saw Somer WHEN?

Seriously, why would Kyle say that he saw Somer? He must have. Why make up a story that puts you in the microscope of hundreds of LE? Remember, the reporter called Kyle, so Kyle is not some serial confessor.

Everything is totally mum on Kyle. Everyone else seems to have statements and are people that are identified by first and last name. What's up with Kyle?
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Past the Gano house, a little closer to home, I believe. From the map someone posted about who saw Somer where, the spot closer to home where this little girl saw her appears to be right near the corner of Gano and Debarry, but on the opposite side of the street. She could have crossed the street at the Gano house and walked on the opposite side of the street cutting the corner of Gano and Debarry and still walked on Debarry without crossing in front of the crossing guard. Do you think this is a possibility?
 
I don't know whether to believe Dan Mahla when he says that Somer caught up with her siblings in the 1100 block of Gano because he also said she was released by the school at 2:50 ... but the story is now that she was last seen by her siblings at 2:45 ... so the time doesn't mesh. You can' leave school and 5 minutes earlier meet up with your siblings.
 
Somer walks with MC up to a point when she has spat.
J., boy on bicycle sees Somer at tanks with frown on her face.
Somer talks with Kyle.
Somer is seen near Gano and Grove Park by CS.
Somer catches up with siblings in 1100 block of Gano (this is near Gano and Grove Park).
Somer takes off, and they lose sight of her in the crowd of other kids.


So did Somer hide somewhere, let her siblings pass her and head back to the park to take the shortcut? If so, maybe she talked to Kyle then.

I think they are not relying on the statements of the children ... so that may be why Kyle is the "last one" ... or he is. She could have also encountered M. again and walked home with her ... and then taken the route that made M. comment that tomorrow she'd ask her where she goes.

That is all speculation on my part, not fact.
 
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