FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #37

[Calliope]

In my opinion, the video that shows the person in the blue shirt and brown jacket looks like JH, and if it is him, he didn't appear to be having too much trouble watching the community in pain while in their midst.

If he commited this crime, then imo, he is a sadist, and got off on not only Somer's pain, but on her mom's, the rest of her family, and everyone in that town.

I for one am grateful that God gave Somer's mom the strength and courage to be strong and forceful in the midst of such horror, thus preventing him from enjoying himself as much.

Whoever did this horrible crime, imo, it isn't his first kill, or his second, or even his third. jmo

There's a special place in hell for monsters like that.
moo

It might be his first kill, but I doubt he went from *just* viewing and collecting child *advertiser censored* to murder. There's been a few steps in between I bet.

 

[Calliope]

Hey hey now. I'm a recluse and a loner, I stay aloof and distant.
I don't interact well with other people, normal or otherwise.

Having poor social skills is not the crime for which he is a person of interest in. In fact, it's not a crime at all. We can't all be social butterflies after all.

:blushing:

I'm sure some may see me as 'standoffish'. I can interact well enough with others once i know them, but I don't go out of my way to seek them out and am far from extroverted.

If I ever break bad, I'm sure the neighbors will be telling reporters how quiet and aloof I was too =\

 

[dar107]

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/conten...n-polygamist-home/dJtQtZnLYUGNVY3gKDlFSg.cspx

Just want to give you a big shout out for the fantastic work you have done, compiling all the photos and info. Your time and effort spent doing all this is much appreciated by many I am sure!!

 

[lillygator]

I highly doubt police are using him as a fall guy. They don't just go around naming POI's in cases.

 

[~greeneyedgirl~]

It might be his first kill, but I doubt he went from *just* viewing and collecting child *advertiser censored* to murder. There's been a few steps in between I bet.

I unfortunately could very well see this happening. If this was the first time he acted upon his urges and was rejected by Somer, who is to say what he was capable of doing, it has been stated that he was let go from a job due to anger issues. Many pedophiles believe that their victim wanted them, as sick and demented as it is.

 

[dar107]

I unfortunately could very well see this happening. If this was the first time he acted upon his urges and was rejected by Somer, who is to say what he was capable of doing, it has been stated that he was let go from a job due to anger issues. Many pedophiles believe that their victim wanted them, as sick and demented as it is.

So sick but so true. I do think he has either molested or photographed children before. If I was the parent of a young child in that family I would be terrified. The arrest warrant with the blacked out part, defiantly leads one that way.

The upbringing of JH and his sister is scary. If mom thought it was perfectly fine for her and her 8 yr old daughter to marry a man? Makes me wonder what was deemed or shown to these children as acceptable behavior.

 

[lurkeyloo]

I don't think this was his first time. Maybe the first time he killed someone, but I keep remembering the arrest warrant where it says the roommate was looking for "pictures of Jarred's_________" (and then it's blanked out). Obviously there was some red flag somewhere.

 

[ElizaAvalon]

I'm so pissed I could puke.

LE can say all they want about the timing of them taking a look at Harrell's computer. But, HELLO???!!!! they only decided to search the home this past week.

So, this tells me one thing: Harrell was absolutely nowhere near their radar until last week.

They can say all they want about the timing of the computer search but facts are facts. If Harrell was even remotely a possibilty before last week they would have tore his home apart months ago.

Grrr...

 

[dar107]

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...somer_thompson_slaying_had_unstable_childhood

 

[eyes4crime]

Hey hey now. I'm a recluse and a loner, I stay aloof and distant.
I don't interact well with other people, normal or otherwise.

Having poor social skills is not the crime for which he is a person of interest in. In fact, it's not a crime at all. We can't all be social butterflies after all.

:blushing:

Of course lacking social skills isn't a crime! I was speculating when responding to a comment as to why we know so little about him - and why he would turn down an attorney - lots of people are recluses but do they lie, cheat, steal, collect *advertiser censored*, and live in a shed. We are trying to figure this guy out and there is very little info to do so. Maybe it's all in the 'why' one is a recluse! :waitasec:

 

[dar107]

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...somer_thompson_slaying_had_unstable_childhood

LUCEDALE, MISS. — Loretta Harrell answered a knock at her ranch-style home in the deep Mississippi woods six weeks ago to find two strangers standing outside

The FBI agents told Harrell that Jarred wasn’t cooperating with a criminal investigation in Florida, where he’d spent time with his birth mother and her newest husband. They said Jarred fit a profile, but didn’t say of what, and asked his father for a DNA sample.

He said there’s one more thing he can’t get off his mind: He’s not really certain if Jarred is even his son.

Harrell said Jarred’s mother always insisted he is the father and court documents link them as father and son. But Harrell’s current wife said the two men look nothing alike. And Harrell, still distrusting of Jarred’s mother, said he has his doubts. Not that he’s ready to disown Jarred yet.

“I don’t have no other choice,” Harrell said. “I raised him for five years.”

Harrell said if anything comes from the ongoing criminal investigation, it may be his chance to get an answer. Along with the DNA sample he gave to the FBI, Harrell said he has been told his son changed his mind and gave his own sample some time later.

Well, seems that JH has been on the radar for at least 6 weeks! And refused to give his DNA or cooperate.

Are we now allowed to discuss his family?

 

[passionflower]

JH has been described as a loner and lazy.
If lazy and no friends.........
who moved that shed for many miles?
lazy people wouldn't take down and put up a shed again.
Who had a truck to move the shed?
Who had the money to move the shed?
When did the shed get moved?
Did parents move the shed?
Then where did he live for a few weeks after they left?
Why didn't they allow him to be in the house?
The shed bothers me, because people
just usually leave sheds, I have.

 

[dar107]

I'm so pissed I could puke.

LE can say all they want about the timing of them taking a look at Harrell's computer. But, HELLO???!!!! they only decided to search the home this past week.

So, this tells me one thing: Harrell was absolutely nowhere near their radar until last week.

They can say all they want about the timing of the computer search but facts are facts. If Harrell was even remotely a possibilty before last week they would have tore his home apart months ago.

Grrr...

I am thinking that maybe they had to wait for test results to come back before they could get a warrant. I think the return of those tests came last week and the warrants were executed. The more we are finding out, the more I feel that he will be charged for the murder of Somer when he gets back to FL. Hopefully we will find out the answers to the questions about why LE was not able to move quicker on him. I feel they needed his DNA to see if they could match, and that they had a close eye on him for some time.

 

[dar107]

JH has been described as a loner and lazy.
If lazy and no friends.........
who moved that shed for many miles?
lazy people wouldn't take down and put up a shed again.
Who had a truck to move the shed?
Who had the money to move the shed?
When did the shed get moved?
Did parents move the shed?
Then where did he live for a few weeks after they left?
Why didn't they allow him to be in the house?
The shed bothers me, because people
just usually leave sheds, I have.

I would assume when his mom and stepdad moved, they used their moving truck to move the shed. If you look back through the thread there are some good pics of the shed at Gano, then at Callahan, where parents moved to.

 

[Dee10]

I don't know what it takes to make the charge of murder onhim, but if the DNA is a match wouldn't that be enough? Anyone know?

 

[LaLaw2000]

Guess I figured Harrell was going on the advice of an attorney - Isn't it required by the Constitution that he have an attorney appointed to him? And if he's refusing one, I guess he will be extradited without advise. Seems everything between him and his defense attorney would be privileged info , so I don't know why he would refuse an appointed attorney. mho

LaLaw has been helping us out with the legal questions - maybe she can give us some insight.

BBM:

I am not a lawyer, eyes4crime. I was a Booking/Classification Lieutenant in Corrections and am now retired. Before working the booking section, I escorted city, county, and even federal arrestees and inmates to court for arraignments, trials, transfers, etc.

I have seen arrestees refuse a lawyer. The judge can appoint one for him anyway. Then JH can refuse to see the lawyer or talk to him. JH would have to ask the judge if he can represent himself, and the judge can refuse to let him. So who knows where the lawyer situation is at this time. Seems as if JH is refusing to sign the extradition waiver, so what is left for the Florida authorities to do is get Christ to sign an order for extradition, IMO. There is no reason in this world why that should takes weeks unless JH's court appointed lawyer would be trying to hold it up. There is never an arraignment or initial appearance in front of a judge where an arrestee is not asked if he has a lawyer, whether he can afford one, and that one will be appointed for him if he cannot afford one. We just do not have the full reporting of what that initial appearance entailed, so we do not know the status of JH.

I am by no means an authority on this subject. I just know what the system is here in Louisiana. I wish we had a poster who could shed light on this as an attorney familiar with being court appointed. Also, what happens when an arrestee will not talk with him/her and follow the advice given.

ETA: As JH was not arrested for a crime committed in Mississippi, he had to have gone in front of a Federal Judge, IMO.

MOO's

 

[eyes4crime]

I don't know what it takes to make the charge of murder onhim, but if the DNA is a match wouldn't that be enough? Anyone know?

They would have to convince a jury 'beyond all reasonable doubt' that he is the murderer.

Here are some thoughts (guesses)?

If little Somer had Harrell's DNA under her fingernails or DNA from body fluids were found on her, forensics and eye witness reports - maybe that would do it?

I was thinking hair or fiber from Somer, but he could always say Somer walked into the shed or house on her own accord. Possessing child *advertiser censored* or having Somer on *advertiser censored*, IMO, wouldn't be enough for a conviction of murder.

Forensics + eye witness reports, paper trails, etc. and I'm not sure what else. Anybody else have ideas??? moo

 

[LaLaw2000]

I'm so pissed I could puke.

LE can say all they want about the timing of them taking a look at Harrell's computer. But, HELLO???!!!! they only decided to search the home this past week.

So, this tells me one thing: Harrell was absolutely nowhere near their radar until last week.

They can say all they want about the timing of the computer search but facts are facts. If Harrell was even remotely a possibilty before last week they would have tore his home apart months ago.
Grrr...

I am a big LE advocate having worked in the system myself and my late husband retiring from LE. I just have to say, ElizaAvalon, that I am with you on this one with one exception. I do think that JH was on LE's radar before last week. I do agree with you on the part I bolded.

LE has to be able to prove the chain of evidence in a case such as this. The computer was not in JH's possession at the time LE got it. It was turned over to them. (as we all already know)

I am willing to bet a bunch that JH signed onto some child *advertiser censored* sites using his aunt's computer in Mississippi using his old nic. His aunts computer was confiscated via search warrant, IIRC. That also could have led LE to him, in addition to maybe his Florida family telling LE where he was.

Hopefully, JH will be extradited to Florida soon. Then we should know more. Crist does not need to fool around with signing an order, and I do not think he will.

I am on pins and needles wanting to get some facts. I have no doubt that LE has some sort of definitive evidence linking him to Somer. I am so very thankful that this monster is locked up.

GB Somer's family.

 

[dar107]

According to the news article with JH's father, he has been a definite possibility for the past 6 weeks, at a minimum.

Any DNA whizes here that can tell me if a DNA sample from a perps father would get enough of a match for the search warrants and POI status?

 

[nursebeeme]

I would assume when his mom and stepdad moved, they used their moving truck to move the shed. If you look back through the thread there are some good pics of the shed at Gano, then at Callahan, where parents moved to.

I also think the parents took their dog with them too. moo