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This convinces me that Ryan is mentally ill. All that focus on weird beliefs and not on his own health.Yes, I think so too. He looks like he's starving.
This convinces me that Ryan is mentally ill. All that focus on weird beliefs and not on his own health.Yes, I think so too. He looks like he's starving.
When was the last time we had two assassination attempts on a former or present president, or one running for office?
It's not exactly detective work to know he's probably wherever the excessively large motorcade is and the streets are blocked off.
I’m not aware that there were ever two on any candidate. This was the second in less than 2 months.When was the last time we had two assassination attempts on a former or present president, or one running for office?
I didn’t know he survived a second one!Atleast publicly, it was probably Gerald Ford; he survived two assassination attempts just 17 days apart.
Former President Gerald R Ford. Two attempts in September 1975. September 5 and September 22, 1975. Article link below to July 12, 2024 CBS News online article by Luke Laster entitled ‘Michigan's only president, Gerald Ford, faced 2 assassination attempts, 17 days apart’.When was the last time we had two assassination attempts on a former or present president, or one running for office?
- Dec 16, 2002
Ryan Routh, 36, was arrested without incident at 1 a.m. Monday at United Roofing, 1735 W. Lee St., Greensboro police said.Routh was pulled over about 10 p.m. Sunday during a traffic stop, police said. But he put his hand on a firearm and drove to United Roofing, where he remained barricaded inside, police said.
Routh was charged with carrying a concealed weapon and possession of a weapon of mass destruction, referring to a fully automatic machine gun.
MAN WITH GUN BARRICADES SELF INSIDE BUSINESS
An armed man was arrested Monday morning after barricading himself in a business during a three-hour standoff, police said.greensboro.com
We haven’t heard confirmation one way or the other, but I tend to believe he didn’t actually get any shots off. It was the advanced agents who engaged him, which means his target wouldn’t have been in the picture yet.Former President Gerald R Ford. Two attempts in September 1975. September 5 and September 22, 1975. Article link below to July 12, 2024 CBS News online article by Luke Laster entitled ‘Michigan's only president, Gerald Ford, faced 2 assassination attempts, 17 days apart’.
In the incident today, is it apparent that the gunman with the AK-47 assault weapon actually fired a shot? MOO
Michigan's only president, Gerald Ford, faced 2 assassination attempts, 17 days apart in 1975
Following the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, CBS News Detroit takes you on a history lesson to the Gerald R. Ford Library in Ann Arbor.www.cbsnews.com
Maybe he returned fire on the Secret Service agents and then ran. It only takes a second to pull a trigger. JMO.We haven’t heard confirmation one way or the other, but I tend to believe he didn’t actually get any shots off. It was the advanced agents who engaged him, which means his target wouldn’t have been in the picture yet.
I imagine they saw his rifle, opened fire, and he booked it out of there as fast as he could.
He could have, but that would be pointless. He wasn't trying to commit a mass casualty attack; he was trying to kill Trump. As soon as he was spotted his plan went to hell. I think we would have heard if Secret Service agents believed they were fired upon.Maybe he returned fire on the Secret Service agents and then ran. It only takes a second to pull a trigger. JMO.
Routh said he probably would have tried to stop a criminal anywhere
You're probably right.He could have, but that would be pointless. He wasn't trying to commit a mass casualty attack; he was trying to kill Trump. As soon as he was spotted his plan went to hell. I think we would have heard if Secret Service agents believed they were fired upon.
Trump is a convicted felon, so I think Routh is deluded and thought it was his job to get rid of criminals through whatever means even if it's violent.In 1990 he chased and was punched by suspected rapist and helped police search for the suspect after he ran off.
As a result he "was awarded a Law Enforcement Oscar by the Greensboro chapter of the International Union of Police Association" for being 'citizen of the year' in 1991.
It does sound a bit like a Taxi Driver type story, where a psychopath stumbles into heroism by complete accident.
"Ryan Routh isn't a super hero. He's just another guy who lives in Greensboro's Fisher Park area with a family he hopes to keep safe.
But what he did - fight and chase a suspected rapist and later assist police in an investigation - makes him a super citizen if not a super hero.For his efforts, Routh was awarded a Law Enforcement Oscar by the Greensboro chapter of the International Union of Police Association. A statue shaped like an Academy Award rests on the mantle of his living room. Routh received the Oscar for being the ``citizen of the year.'
``I hope that everybody else would have done the same thing in the same situation,' Routh, 25, said. ``When these types of incidents happen, most of what you do is just impulse. You're just reacting. I was happy to be at the right place at the right time.'
Last spring, a woman working in an office building near Routh's house was raped by a burglar. After the rape, the woman locked herself in an office and scrambled onto a roof and yelled for help.
Routh was outside his house and ran to see what the woman was screaming about. She was yelling that the suspect was still inside the office building.
``I ran around to the front of the (office building) to see what was going on,' Routh said. ``This guy comes crawling out the front door. (That's) when I confronted him on the steps.'
Routh said the man told him, ``Some lady up there is screaming and yelling.'
``To this guy, it was like nothing special was going on,' Routh said. ``It was like a walk in the park.
``He punched me at that point. He was a pretty strong fella, kind of short but strong. When he hit me, I grabbed hold of him. He shook free from me and took off running,' Routh said.
Routh was knocked down during the scuffle. He got up and chased the man, but after several blocks, lost sight of him.
Another neighbor and Routh drove around the neighborhood for about 15 minutes, and Routh rode around with a police officer later as well.
Greensboro police detective Chris Frazier, who investigated the crime, was impressed with Routh.
``It's rare that you find a citizen who will go above and beyond to help police in stopping the crime or in the investigation of the crime,' Frazier said.
When Routh stopped the man, Routh said he ``was thinking that this guy is the one who needs to be held for some questioning, at least. That's why I confronted him and chased him. And I thought I needed to at least hit him back.'
In April, Greensboro police arrested Terrance Bryant, 28, in connection with a series of burglaries and robberies. Bryant was also wanted on charges in New York. When shown the photo of Bryant among a group of others, Routh identified him as the man who punched him, Routh said.
Routh said he probably would have tried to stop a criminal anywhere but with a woman screaming about a crime in his neighborhood, he took an added interest.
``When something happens (so close) it sort of shakes your world, too,' Routh said. ``When you have a wife and a 2-year-old child you act to put this guy away before something happens to your wife or your child.'
Frazier said most citizens don't cooperate as well as Routh.
``He (Routh) has made himself available to interviews,' Frazier said. ``I wish we could have more help like that. We can't do it alone. We have to rely on citizens.'"
CRIMEFIGHTING PAYS\ POLICE ORGANIZATION HONORS 'SUPER CITIZEN'
Ryan Routh isn't a super hero. He's just another guy who lives in Greensboro's Fisher Park area with a family he hopes to keep safe.greensboro.com
This took a very unfortunate turn.
I guess we will learn more about what changed him from a seemingly protective husband, dad and good citizen to today, decades after his good deed.
JMO
Thanks MassGuy! More will probably be clear in coming days. Including perhaps, whether FL state and / or federal charges are to be laid against him? IANAL. MOOWe haven’t heard confirmation one way or the other, but I tend to believe he didn’t actually get any shots off. It was the advanced agents who engaged him, which means his target wouldn’t have been in the picture yet.
I imagine they saw his rifle, opened fire, and he booked it out of there as fast as he could.