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sds71 said:
Prosecutors have just charged Ryan Routh with the attempted assassination of Donald Trump:

Prosecutors on Tuesday filed the charge of attempted assassination of a major presidential candidate against Ryan Wesley Routh, the man they say camped outside of Donald Trump’s West Palm Beach golf course for hours on end, armed with a rifle that he pointed through a chain-link fence with a clear shot to the next hole where the former president was headed on September 15.

Routh was originally charged with two gun-related offenses, including obliteration of a firearm’s serial number and possessing a firearm while a convicted felon, while the investigation continued.

Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee who oversaw, and later threw out, the federal criminal classified documents case against the former president, was randomly assigned to oversee the case, court documents show.

Indictment:


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(Why is the maximum sentence for the crime of stalking only ten years? No one stalks with friendly intentions.)

Pleased to see he's looking at a couple possible life sentence. Laying in wait (stalking) anyone should be a life sentence IMO because the point of it, whether or not realized, is never for good.

He won't see freedom.

JMO
 
BayouBelle_LA said:
Why does one person have six cell phones? Makes me wonder if he was given any of those by someone and maybe the gun with the obliterated serial number as well. imo

www.newsweek.com

New details emerge about Ryan Routh as judge rules to keep him jailed

Ryan Wesley Routh, the suspect in an apparent assassination attempt of Donald Trump, appeared in court for a hearing.
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Officials also found six cell phones, one of which showed a search of how to travel from Palm Beach to Mexico. A notebook found in the car contained criticisms of the Russian and Chinese governments and information on how to join Ukraine in its war against Russia.
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Prepaid/aka burner phones. All with different phone numbers.
 
Megnut said:
(Why is the maximum sentence for the crime of stalking only ten years? No one stalks with friendly intentions.)

Pleased to see he's looking at a couple possible life sentence. Laying in wait (stalking) anyone should be a life sentence IMO because the point of it, whether or not realized, is never for good.

He won't see freedom.

JMO
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bolded and enlarged by me for focus.

Women have been asking this question for many, many generations!
Having said that, I'm happy to see that more serious charges have since been laid against Routh.
 
sds71 said:
Prosecutors have just charged Ryan Routh with the attempted assassination of Donald Trump:

Prosecutors on Tuesday filed the charge of attempted assassination of a major presidential candidate against Ryan Wesley Routh, the man they say camped outside of Donald Trump’s West Palm Beach golf course for hours on end, armed with a rifle that he pointed through a chain-link fence with a clear shot to the next hole where the former president was headed on September 15.

Routh was originally charged with two gun-related offenses, including obliteration of a firearm’s serial number and possessing a firearm while a convicted felon, while the investigation continued.

Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee who oversaw, and later threw out, the federal criminal classified documents case against the former president, was randomly assigned to oversee the case, court documents show.

Indictment:


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I wonder if RR could also be charged with the attempted assassination of a former president? Does federal law only address attempted assassination of a sitting president and a major presidential candidate (the latter being the charge the feds have made against RR)?

It seems to me that the charge of attempted assassination of a former president is being left on the table, so I am wondering if it is because (1) there is no such federal law so no charge is possible at the federal level or (2) if there is such a federal law/charge but the prosecution doesn't believe they have adequate evidence to make this charge. If that is the case, perhaps state charges (such as attempted murder?) do need to come into play to make sure this guy never again sees the light of day outside of a prison courtyard.
 
Sundog said:
I wonder if RR could also be charged with the attempted assassination of a former president? Does federal law only address attempted assassination of a sitting president and a major presidential candidate (the latter being the charge the feds have made against RR)?

It seems to me that the charge of attempted assassination of a former president is being left on the table, so I am wondering if it is because (1) there is no such federal law so no charge is possible at the federal level or (2) if there is such a federal law/charge but the prosecution doesn't believe they have adequate evidence to make this charge. If that is the case, perhaps state charges (such as attempted murder?) do need to come into play to make sure this guy never again sees the light of day outside of a prison courtyard.
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The exact same law applies to former presidents. You can't try him for both.
Federal.law has a high bar for attempted murder, so they made laws for specific federal positions. This was because of the problems with the Kennedy case, that resulted after the sheriff's perp walk with Oswald and fighting over the autopsy of Kennedy. Oswald was gonna be tried by the state of Texas and it did not go well. They decided to lump all of that with the federal system.

1532. Threats Against Former Presidents, And Certain Other Secret Service Protectees

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Ryan Routh in court today, pleads guilty through his federal public defender. He requests, and is granted, a trial by jury.

His assistant federal public defender, Kristy Militello, entered his not guilty plea and asked for a trial by jury, which was granted. Now, Assistant U.S. Attorney Mark Dispoto will begin turning over evidence to the defense. No trial date has been set. Under the federal speedy trial law, Routh could face trial within 70 days of his arraignment — but that is unlikely.

If convicted of the attempted assassination, Routh, a former North Carolina resident who was living in Hawaii and working in construction before the incident, faces up to life in prison. He is being held at the Federal Detention Center in Miami as he awaits trial.

 
The prosecution is not going to be ready by Nov 18th.


Case seems a bit more complex than a typical run-of-the-mill shop lifting case, which can often be delayed by six months. But that's just MOO.



Investigators reportedly have more than 100 outstanding subpoena returns in connection with the investigation, the filing states, and they estimate they have "thousands of videos to review" from the large volume of electronic devices seized thus far.

"All videos, still images, text files, and audio files constitute approximately 4,000 terabytes (4 million gigabytes) of digital review to complete," the filing says.

abcnews.go.com

Prosecutors request indefinite delay in trial for Trump assassination attempt suspect Ryan Routh

Federal prosecutors requested an indefinite delay in scheduling the trial for the man charged in an apparent assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump.
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Friday Fan said:
The prosecution is not going to be ready by Nov 18th.


Case seems a bit more complex than a typical run-of-the-mill shop lifting case, which can often be delayed by six months. But that's just MOO.
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So now that the prosecution has filed a motion requesting that the judge designate this case as "complex" under U.S. statute, then the trial date can be removed and the case held back from trial indefinitely. From what I have read in the local news in Florida, it sounds like the defense is agreeable to that designation, i.e. the legal designation of a "complex" case. This will allow the judge to postpone indefinitely, legally, the defendant's right to a speedy trial which she was trying to protect by initially setting a November trial date. So I assume the judge will rule in the prosecution's favor, especially if the defense is in agreement.
 
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