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10:11 a.m. - "Now, this line had better be attorneys that are representing parents," the judge says before another attorney steps up.
An attorney grouses about that, but the judge tells him, "Have a seat."
It appears that the crowd of attorneys in the auditorium is reduced by at least one-third Friday compared to the previous day, and those who are present seem deflated after the 11 hours of attorney talk and testimony Thursday.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/18/live-from-the-courthouse-day-2-of-updates-from/
 
10:23 a.m. - The judge tells the local attorney to sit down.
More parents' attorneys come forward, including an attorney for some of the fathers.
The men were not taken from the ranch? the attorney says. The judge makes it clear he needs to move on and does.
Under questioning, Voss says she believes most of the mothers have gone back to the ranch.
"Get to the point!" the judge says.
So each of these mothers is in her individual home? the dads' attorney says.
Objections stop him cold.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/18/live-from-the-courthouse-day-2-of-updates-from/
 
10:45 a.m. - The judge decides she has heard all the testimony she needs from Voss, and the CPS supervisor steps down, at long last.
A child psychiatrist from the Department of Family and Protective Services takes the stand.
A prosecutor questions him to establish his expertise in working with children, as well as children such as those at the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.
A parents' attorney objects that the psychiatrist's testimony is not appropriate and needlessly goes over old ground.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/18/live-from-the-courthouse-day-2-of-updates-from/
 
11:02 a.m. - "This man has lots of information that the court has already heard about. I don't know why we're hearing about it again," the parents' attorney says.
But the judge decides to let the psychiatrist's testimony go on, much as she would like to shorten the hearing, because she says she thinks it's helping her in her decision.
The prosecutor asks the witness what he advised CPS to do regarding the children. The psychiatrist says he felt it was highly likely that these children would not be comfortable providing certain information.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/18/live-from-the-courthouse-day-2-of-updates-from/
 
11:24 a.m. - The psychiatrist says that FLDS members who leave the group are "highly vulnerable" to people who would exploit them because of their upbringing.
It's because they're behind in their decision-making capabilities - they haven't matured, he says.
He testifies that he asked three of the "young women" whether they would allow him to take their pulse, but told them that he didn't have to - it was up to them. They appeared to be flummoxed by having to make a choice, he says.
It's not easy to break the children's thought patterns, the psychiatrist says. When you are socialized in a belief and behavior that's deeply ingrained as part of their religion, it's very hard to get a person to see that the belief and associated behavior are wrong, he says.
An objection comes up that the psychiatrist is no more qualified to give expert testimony than anyone in the courtroom.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/18/live-from-the-courthouse-day-2-of-updates-from/
 
Judge has just annouced that everything will be wrapped up by 4:00pm. So we could possibly have a decision today.
 
11:53 a.m - Another attorney representing parents steps forward to question the psychiatrist.
The psychiatrist says he has been told it's a blessing to have a lot of children.
An attorney for parents says: Do you know that Catholics and other religions believe it's a blessing to have children?
"I wasn't aware that I was making a pejorative comment," the witness says.
"You offered no specific testimony or evidence to the court that the respondents in this case have been neglectful to this court, have you?" the attorney says.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/18/live-from-the-courthouse-day-2-of-updates-from/
 
Been in bed w/migraine all morning - how's it been going LadyBass?
 
barb0301 said:
Been in bed w/migraine all morning - how's it been going LadyBass?
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Ack, I hate migraines. She's doing great, much better than the media who curiously is undereporting the hearing if they report at all that is!
 
Is the court allowing any live feeds of these proceedings? I have searched local and national websites but have been unsuccessful in finding one.
 
SuziQ said:
Ack, I hate migraines. She's doing great, much better than the media who curiously is undereporting the hearing if they report at all that is!
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Migraines are a pain in the derriere, especially since for me, they are usually a precursor for my seizures......ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sooooo mad at the media, they continue to ignore these proceedings !!!! What's up with that?
 
barb0301 said:
Been in bed w/migraine all morning - how's it been going LadyBass?
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Hey Barb sorry about your migraine. We may have a decision within 24 hours. She is wrapping things up by 4pm central today.
 
Ladybass, thank you for doing the transcribing.

I am surprised they are doing the hearing this way. I had really hoped they would do it by 'family' specifically the fathers family. And have each of the mother's associated with the fathers included with the father. That would give them a large group, give them a better look at the individual family situation and would stop the name-switching, child switching. Unclaimed children could then be dealt with at the end of the proceeding.

Of course it would emphasize the multiple wives and so defense attorneys would probably object. But it would help resolve the attorneys request for individual proceedings.
 
mollymalone said:
Attorney Hays: "The Texas law is well laid out in the code how you remove the child. If there is abuse in the household by one parent and the other parent doesn't do anything about it, the child can be removed permanently or temporarily."
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:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 
StealthTheory said:
I really don't feel good about these hearrings being grouped like this...
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I think the judge is doing the best she can. She doesn't want to be there for 70 hours or more. Its not the best solution, but I think with the circumstances, It is better then nothing,


BTW I am not transcribing, I am getting it off the San Angelo site. And just copying it here.
 
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