Fleet and Priscilla White speak out

[Blue Bottle 01]

Sorry Blue Bottle- you are preaching to the wrong choir member. I was born in Colorado and after moving at the age of 3, spent summers with my Grandparents there. I have many family members who attended University there, and still do.

My husband and I lived in Boulder with our two young children, while he did his Post Doc at the National Center for Atmospheric Research there, our youngest child was born there.

We would still be there had he been able to easily find a job at the time. We still visit almost every year and hope to one day move back. My best friend lives there.

I am the "newage, leftist, progressive people" you speak of in your post. Just had to make that clear.

I like you- and your posts- even the riddles. You mix it up here and are a welcome relief to the never ending, round and round circles with the IDI's , IMO, but I disagree with you vehemently on this. I will agree to disagree.

There is still time to save your soul.

 

[bettybaby00]

Well, ITA.

Watched the video which OTG posted, so that I could hear the brief presentation from both the W’s. They, of course, know that when they asked the governor to appoint another prosecutor, it really got underneath AH’s skin.

Leaving aside (for now) the actions on the part of JR and PR to implicate the Ws in the crime, one also has to review the actions on the part of AH. It is so obvious that AH was not going to pursue this one, no way, no how. In a video he uses the OJ Simpson trial as an analogy: AH says about OJ, that the DA was pushed by the public into prosecuting too soon and that’s why the OJ case was lost. Twice AH says that JB would not want him to proceed too soon. (Turns my stomach that he invokes the name of JB telling him not to proceed.)

Just a cursory look at some of AH’s actions show the kind of person he was: AH leaked materials to Schiller, he gave the defense attorneys pretty much everything they wanted, he told reporter Schapiro to see if he could dig up “dirt” on Commander Eller (that’s on recorded tape, btw), and finally, he was the one to give the newspaper the NK story, even though he knew she was looney-tunes. All that said, it is not a surprise that the City would fight to keep AH’s misdeeds hidden. If the full scope of DA corruption were revealed, could the many people who plea-bargained, the few prosecuted, during AH’s tenure sue the City to have their cases overturned, records expunged on the basis of DA corruption? It’s a concern anyway. No one in the City wants that outcome. moo

Unfortunately, FW and PW are probably swimming upstream with the attempt to have the knowledge about the investigation into NK provided. Yet, in so many ways, I respect their efforts to break the bottleneck in this case and continue to hope for an outcome which brings out more truth in the JB case and which provides the Ws some measure of peace, clearing their name once and for all. All MHO

&& yet people insist that comments about the DA are rumor and gossip.

IMO both he and ML should be held accountable for their actions.

 

[Meara]

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.....Just a cursory look at some of AH’s actions show the kind of person he was: AH leaked materials to Schiller, he gave the defense attorneys pretty much everything they wanted, he told reporter Schapiro to see if he could dig up “dirt” on Commander Eller (that’s on recorded tape, btw), and finally, he was the one to give the newspaper the NK story, even though he knew she was looney-tunes......

FWIW, he was also for nine years the happy father-in-law of Lisa Jo Hunter, nee Lisa Druck, heiress to her lawyer father's fortune (and reputation for being implicated in an insurance fraud scheme that involved murdering pedigreed horses by electrocution, one of them being Lisa's), who went on to rename herself Rielle, divorce AH III (also a lawyer), and become the mistress of presidential contender John Edwards, mother of their illegitimate daughter, and author of a really awful book. None of this is AH's fault, but you have to wonder whether something about the way AH III was raised made Lisa and the Drucks attractive to him.

 

[questfortrue]

FWIW, he was also for nine years the happy father-in-law of Lisa Jo Hunter, nee Lisa Druck, heiress to her lawyer father's fortune (and reputation for being implicated in an insurance fraud scheme that involved murdering pedigreed horses by electrocution, one of them being Lisa's), who went on to rename herself Rielle, divorce AH III (also a lawyer), and become the mistress of presidential contender John Edwards, mother of their illegitimate daughter, and author of a really awful book. None of this is AH's fault, but you have to wonder whether something about the way AH III was raised made Lisa and the Drucks attractive to him.

:yow: Too much to digest!! uke:

 

[Venom]

FWIW, he was also for nine years the happy father-in-law of Lisa Jo Hunter, nee Lisa Druck, heiress to her lawyer father's fortune (and reputation for being implicated in an insurance fraud scheme that involved murdering pedigreed horses by electrocution, one of them being Lisa's), who went on to rename herself Rielle, divorce AH III (also a lawyer), and become the mistress of presidential contender John Edwards, mother of their illegitimate daughter, and author of a really awful book. None of this is AH's fault, but you have to wonder whether something about the way AH III was raised made Lisa and the Drucks attractive to him.

I didn't know that.

 

[Meara]

:yow: Too much to digest!! uke:

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Yes, isn't it? And that was a severely edited version!

I have to add, qft, that if anyone had asked me to make a list of folks here who I thought were least likely to post the puke smilie, you'd have been very near the top. What a funny surprise! :floorlaugh:

 

[chlban]

I didn't know that.

Nor did I, but it sure is an interesting side note.

 

[questfortrue]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Yes, isn't it? And that was a severely edited version!

I have to add, qft, that if anyone had asked me to make a list of folks here who I thought were least likely to post the puke smilie, you'd have been very near the top. What a funny surprise! :floorlaugh:

Au contraire. I love the emoticons, ‘cuz sometimes I just don’t have words
for the actions, behaviors of the cast of characters.
E.g., about ML’s activities with JMK, I'm speechless. But there’s an emoticon for her conduct:

Or, will Boulder investigate the conflict of interest and possibly illegal /unethical actions of AH?:

moo

 

[MissJ]

Bottle 01;10557105]Don't feel too sorry for them. They participate in the New Age Leftist Prosressive Culture of Boulder, they support it, they protect it. That's the very culture that scuttled the investigation, the very culture that threw them [/B]under the bus, the very culture they cowtow to as it refuses to hear their complaints.

The White's actions are very similar to Koby and Arndt's. They are locked in a vicious cycle from which there is no extraction save for leaving the gulag cult in favor of the other side: that being the "old way" of doing things embodied by people such as Steve Thomas. That is anthema to the New Age cult.

The Whites seek justice from people who would reather see them fry than resort to common sense.

Don't feel too sorry for the Whites.

What has that got to do with their lives Re: JBR murder? Nothing! They are innocent!

 

[Meara]

Au contraire. I love the emoticons, ‘cuz sometimes I just don’t have words
for the actions, behaviors of the cast of characters.

Of course! They are a wonderfully droll shorthand. What made me burst out laughing was the juxtaposition. Broad brush here, but imagine Belle in Beauty and the Beast smiling, easing Gaston out the door, then looking straight into the camera, and saying, "Oh sh-t!" :floorlaugh:

 

[Blue Bottle 01]

What has that got to do with their lives Re: JBR murder? Nothing!

Everything.

 

[Frigga]

Everything.

BBM How?

 

[Blue Bottle 01]

They are guilty of choosing Boulder over JonBenet.

 

[DeDee]

There is a matter that needs to be made clear in respect to FW; in case, there remain any who think FW had anything to do with the Rs CNN interview.

On page 317 of JKs HC book Foreign Faction, we discover it was John's FatCat buddy, Rod Westmoreland who suggested the Rs appear live on CNN [the day after burying their baby girl]. It was not FW.

Rod Westmoreland was FatCat's with the president of CNN. It was suggested the Rs needed to stifle speculation.

Whatever transpired for the CNN interview to reach fruition, FW did not urge nor suggest the Rs appear on CNN's live television.

In that same series of pages, on 320, Kolar expresses his utter surprise to discover the Ramsey lawyers and investigators were working the next morning, Jan. 27, before JonBenét's autopsy had begun.

The Ramsey Brigade did not go visit the housekeeper first. Noooo. The Ramsey Defense Scam was at Fleet White's door seeking an interview the very next morning, Friday the 27th, before a cause of death had been determined, which was not until later that same afternoon because Meyer waited for some time [+ 2 hrs] for second opinions on matters of high regard.

I do believe the Rs buried hastily in another state for a purpose and refused to exhume for reasons only known to the parents. The body should have been withheld initially until a cause for the suspicious abrasions was officially determined by the ME. And would not be surprised to learn that Meyer was pressured to hurry along.

 

[DeDee]

FWIW, he was also for nine years the happy father-in-law of Lisa Jo Hunter, nee Lisa Druck, heiress to her lawyer father's fortune (and reputation for being implicated in an insurance fraud scheme that involved murdering pedigreed horses by electrocution, one of them being Lisa's), who went on to rename herself Rielle, divorce AH III (also a lawyer), and become the mistress of presidential contender John Edwards, mother of their illegitimate daughter, and author of a really awful book. None of this is AH's fault, but you have to wonder whether something about the way AH III was raised made Lisa and the Drucks attractive to him.

Elizabeth Edwards suffered for years battling cancer but she didn't harm her children. Rielle Hunter was youthful, a size 2 and the polar opposite of Elizabeth. Reille Hunter saw Edwards first in a lounge inside the Regency Hotel in February 2006. Later that evening, they met on the street's corner.

"...I was gone. And he was so disappointed. Kicking himself. So when he walked around the corner and saw me standing there, he lit up like a Christmas tree. And I thought his reaction when he saw me was just so cute. I mean, he looked like a little kid at Christmas. And I just uttered to him, "You're so hot." And he said, "Why, thank you!" And he almost jumped into my arms. Literally. And um, that's how we met. On the corner of 61st and Park Avenue."

That is not exactly the first thing I would say to the married U. S. Senator but it is, after all, AHs ex DIL. AH also had a son who overdosed on alcohol and likely combined with his father's pain medication; OxyContyn from AHs own medicine cabinet. (April, 2011) That must have been his he!! on earth as punishment for neglecting justice for JB.

"For the first time, Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter on Thursday publicly questioned whether the three-year investigation into JonBenet Ramsey's death..." ... "His comments came just moments after Boulder County commissioners agreed to give his office $24,000 for the next three months of work.

The $24,000 approved Thursday was modest compared with previous allocations. The case so far has cost taxpayers more than $2 million."

AH had 2 investigators assigned part-time to work the case when he requested the 24k. The White's attended but did not speak at the meeting.

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/pol...ohn-edwards-exclusive-interview?currentPage=2

http://www.9news.com/video/924841025001/0/Former-DAs-mourning-continues

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/jon010700.htm

 

[questfortrue]

There is a matter that needs to be made clear in respect to FW; in case, there remain any who think FW had anything to do with the Rs CNN interview.

On page 317 of JKs HC book Foreign Faction, we discover it was John's FatCat buddy, Rod Westmoreland who suggested the Rs appear live on CNN [the day after burying their baby girl]. It was not FW.

Rod Westmoreland was FatCat's with the president of CNN. It was suggested the Rs needed to stifle speculation.

Whatever transpired for the CNN interview to reach fruition, FW did not urge nor suggest the Rs appear on CNN's live television.

In that same series of pages, on 320, Kolar expresses his utter surprise to discover the Ramsey lawyers and investigators were working the next morning, Jan. 27, before JonBenét's autopsy had begun.

The Ramsey Brigade did not go visit the housekeeper first. Noooo. The Ramsey Defense Scam was at Fleet White's door seeking an interview the very next morning, Friday the 27th, before a cause of death had been determined, which was not until later that same afternoon because Meyer waited for some time [+ 2 hrs] for second opinions on matters of high regard.

I do believe the Rs buried hastily in another state for a purpose and refused to exhume for reasons only known to the parents. The body should have been withheld initially until a cause for the suspicious abrasions was officially determined by the ME. And would not be surprised to learn that Meyer was pressured to hurry along.

Thank you for bringing forward this information about the CNN interview. Some of the confusion may have originated from the Rs book DOI. What some may not know, who haven’t reviewed DOI, JR himself says that FW suggested he and PR do the CNN interview.

Exquisitely (?) described by JR in DOI: “After FW arrived in Atlanta, he kept arguing that we didn’t need lawyers to defend us. His solution was for Patsy and me to go on national television and tell our story, since he was convinced that the media were rapidly painting us in guilty colors. If people could see us, he argued, they would be able to get the story into perspective.
~Snip~
“Moreover, FW had convinced me that a public appearance was necessary.”

Once again, Kolar's book reveals more disgusting R-originated propaganda. moo

 

[2 percent]

There is a matter that needs to be made clear in respect to FW; in case, there remain any who think FW had anything to do with the Rs CNN interview.

On page 317 of JKs HC book Foreign Faction, we discover it was John's FatCat buddy, Rod Westmoreland who suggested the Rs appear live on CNN [the day after burying their baby girl]. It was not FW.

Rod Westmoreland was FatCat's with the president of CNN. It was suggested the Rs needed to stifle speculation.

Whatever transpired for the CNN interview to reach fruition, FW did not urge nor suggest the Rs appear on CNN's live television.

In that same series of pages, on 320, Kolar expresses his utter surprise to discover the Ramsey lawyers and investigators were working the next morning, Jan. 27, before JonBenét's autopsy had begun.

The Ramsey Brigade did not go visit the housekeeper first. Noooo. The Ramsey Defense Scam was at Fleet White's door seeking an interview the very next morning, Friday the 27th, before a cause of death had been determined, which was not until later that same afternoon because Meyer waited for some time [+ 2 hrs] for second opinions on matters of high regard.

I do believe the Rs buried hastily in another state for a purpose and refused to exhume for reasons only known to the parents. The body should have been withheld initially until a cause for the suspicious abrasions was officially determined by the ME. And would not be surprised to learn that Meyer was pressured to hurry along.

Slightly off topic and maybe insensitive (sorry in advance) but it's been on my mind recently...
After John dies, who has the legal power to ask for or approve an exhumation of JB? Is it any adult family member (aunt, half brother, brother) or just the closest adult blood relative (presumably Burke)?

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Slightly off topic and maybe insensitive (sorry in advance) but it's been on my mind recently...
After John dies, who has the legal power to ask for or approve an exhumation of JB? Is it any adult family member (aunt, half brother, brother) or just the closest adult blood relative (presumably Burke)?

I would think Burke, since that would be JonBenet's most immediate relative.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Slightly off topic and maybe insensitive (sorry in advance) but it's been on my mind recently...
After John dies, who has the legal power to ask for or approve an exhumation of JB? Is it any adult family member (aunt, half brother, brother) or just the closest adult blood relative (presumably Burke)?

To be honest if an exhumation really would help and the police had evidence it was necessary, A court could order it without family consent. The point is there is nothing that exhuming this body would help with.

 

[otg]

To be honest if an exhumation really would help and the police had evidence it was necessary, A court could order it without family consent. The point is there is nothing that exhuming this body would help with.

I think Scarlett is correct on this one. A court has to issue an order for exhumation to occur. If the closest relative to the deceased agrees with the legal authority's request, there is no problem for the court to issue the order. If OTOH the relative(s) contests the order, a hearing is required like any other court case to hear both sides of the argument. The judge's ruling (one way or the other) can still be challenged in a superior court if there exists grounds for an appeal. (This is all just my understanding of the issue -- I'm not a lawyer.)

At this point in time, most of what could be found on the decomposed body is (like SS said) probably not helpful. Shortly after death, it might have proven useful in laying to rest the idea of a stun-gun having been used. But then, that is something that should have been established on the nature of the wounds before she was ever even laid to rest. But there was a rush to get her buried on the part of the Ramseys (for whatever the reason) and accusations of "ransoming the body" started by one of their sycophants in the DA's office. As a result, the DA's office didn't adequately pursue the issue and useful tests were not completed on the body before it was released. (Agreeing here with DeDee in Post #94.)