Forensic Astrology - CAYLEE ANTHONY Reported Missing 7/15/2008: #2

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HappyChic, not every evil person is sick. Sometimes they are just evil.

Thanks, Kaitland. Even without accurate birth times, you got further than I could. My head is spinning after reading the "paternity" thread. :eek: Not because I'm shocked by it in itself, but because so many people are seriously thinking about it now. The first time it was brought up, most people were saying, "No way!". A bit down the road, we've seen lots of things that puzzle us with the Anthony group, so now, this is just one more thing. :crazy:
 
HappyChic, not every evil person is sick. Sometimes they are just evil.

Thanks, Kaitland. Even without accurate birth times, you got further that I could. My head is spinning after reading the "paternity" thread. :eek: Not because I'm shocked by it in itself, but because so many people are seriously thinking about it now. The first time it was brought up, most people were saying, "No way!". A bit down the road, we've seen lots of things that puzzle us with the Anthony group, so now, this is just one more thing. :crazy:

Call me Ostrich but it is not something I am considering. After reading all of the speculation on this brother - sister incest, I vomited. I want to concentrate on justice for Caylee and finding Caylee.
 
To synthesize Lee and Casey's charts: We can see that they have similar relationship issues: freedom vs. committment; stability vs. excitement vs. potential for violence. There is a very strong uranus component = ultra unconventional. Their themes are:

Casey: sun/mercury/pisces/neptune and mars/uranus/jupiter/sagittarius
Lee: moon/mars/saturn/capricorn and venus/uranus/jupiter/sagittarius

We can see their energy themes are similar, but we cannot look at this chart and say there was any type of sexual relationship. Many siblings will share intense contacts between their charts and this is a manifestation of being in the same family - the ties that bind. We would have to have accurate birth times to evaluate the 5th, 7th, and 8th, and 12th house (secrets) to go any further.
Thanks for doing this Kaitland. It's very interesting.

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Call me Ostrich but it is not something I am considering. After reading all of the speculation on this brother - sister incest, I vomited. I want to concentrate on justice for Caylee and finding Caylee.

In order for Casey to experience incest, there would have to be natal promise of incest in her birth chart.

I think Leonard and the others who are espousing this theory are swimming in the wrong pond...........

Astrologically, incest is a Mars/ Pluto/ Venus thing. If Casey were hard-wired to experience incest, you would see challenging Mars/Pluto/Venus aspects in her natal chart.

There are none.



Aspects of Ven
Ven Sqr Mon 5°40' A
Ven Tri Sat 3°07' S


Aspects of Mar
Mar Sqr Sun 3°03' S
Mar Sqr Mer 2°04' S
Mar Cnj Ura 3°09' S
Mar Pll Ura 0°04' A
Mar Pll Nep 0°58' S
Mar Tri Nod 4°55' A


Aspects of Plu
Plu Tri Mon 0°13' S
Plu Sqq Mer 1°29' A
Plu Tri Jup 0°35' A
Plu SSq Ura 0°23' S
Plu Sxt Nep 1°14' A
Plu Sxt Cer 2°20' S
Plu Opp Nod 6°30' A
Plu Cnj SNo 6°30' A

There is no natal promise of incest in Casey's chart.

Thanks,
Soulscape
 
Soulscape, where did you learn all this? You're amazing! I know a little astrology, but only basic stuff.
 
Thanks for your comments, Soulscape. I was busy looking for my book or books that mention the combo, but couldn't find it. I need to reorganize my astrology books. They're a mess even though most of them are on the bookshelves!

Okay, we can forget the incest. So let's go back to the chart drawing board.

For the chart for yesterday, the 10th, there was mention of Uranus (surprises) and Saturn (delay), I believe. And darned if that judge didn't surprise me by being a smart cookie and delaying the time when the prosecution would have to turn over evidence documents to the defense within ten days, thereby, allowing prosecution the upper hand heading to the Grand Jury hearing on Tuesday. Defense will be entitled to those records after the GJ by law anyway. :) Judge also said if prosecution needs more than 10 days, they could arrange longer through another short hearing.

Judge also delayed his decision on Casey's traveling to points unknown to hunt for Caylee. He said he may have his decision on Monday. Grand Jury is Tuesday and she is expected to be carted back to jail after indictment, therefore, no opportunity to wonder around, poking her hands into, and disturbing, evidence that she herself callously threw away (but kept the bag of garbage and rotten pizza in her car! :rolleyes:).
 
Soulscape, where did you learn all this? You're amazing! I know a little astrology, but only basic stuff.

It takes years and years, and many hours daily/weekly to learn astrology, and no one ever learns it all.
 
It takes years and years, and many hours daily/weekly to learn astrology, and no one ever learns it all.

Aksleuth is absolutely correct --- no one ever learns it all.

My advice would be to learn the basics, then follow your heart and focus on an area of astrology that fascinates the pants off you. That tiny slice of astrology --- whether it is forensic horary or synastry or natal evaluations or political astrology or whatever --- becomes your strength, your core area of knowledge. And hopefully, you will be graced at some point with the opportunity to share your hard-earned knowledge with others and help provide healing in some way.

Thanks,
Soulscape
 
Checked the Orange County Court records and found 'traffic' only infraction(s) listing a party with the exact name with a birthdate of 10/17/68. Could this be him?

Note to All: FifthEssence PM'd me with some additional research that appears to confirm this is the correct Jose Baez and thus 10/17/68 is the correct birth date. However, we still don't have a place of birth for him. I am again asking that you contact your friends/ family who may work in a Florida law office and have access to the Florida volume of the Martindale-Hubbell. This volume would confirm JB's birth date and place of birth.

Thanks to FifthEssence for narrowing down all the JB's!

Thanks,
Soulscape
 
Aksleuth is absolutely correct --- no one ever learns it all.

My advice would be to learn the basics, then follow your heart and focus on an area of astrology that fascinates the pants off you. That tiny slice of astrology --- whether it is forensic horary or synastry or natal evaluations or political astrology or whatever --- becomes your strength, your core area of knowledge. And hopefully, you will be graced at some point with the opportunity to share your hard-earned knowledge with others and help provide healing in some way.

Thanks,
Soulscape

I second that, Soulscape! The reason so many of us get discouraged when studying astrology is that we want to know it all right now!

And, this isn't how it works. Take the Saturn/Uranus opposition developing right now. I have no clue "exactly' how it will work out. I can go back and see how it worked in history, but therte will be subtle differences between prior Saturn/Uranus contacts, and the one we are living through today.

If you don't start studying astrology with the notion that you will be able to understand everything under the Sun, predict everyone's future, know who will win the election, when you will win the lottery, etc, you will be so much happier.

You also will be much more successful. Observation is the best teacher. Just try to watch the major forming aspects, see how closely the news items will relate to them, and add to your understanding of how God set up a marvelous system that is as wonderful to watch as an everchanging sunrise and sunset.
 
Well said Housemouse! An old friend got me interested in astrology about 20 years or so ago. Little did I know when I picked up that first book on sun signs(gasp!) that my library would expand to a full bookcase on astrology references. And it truly is an OBSERVATION, a daily unfolding of purpose and direction in our lives.
 
Note to All: FifthEssence PM'd me with some additional research that appears to confirm this is the correct Jose Baez and thus 10/17/68 is the correct birth date. However, we still don't have a place of birth for him. I am again asking that you contact your friends/ family who may work in a Florida law office and have access to the Florida volume of the Martindale-Hubbell. This volume would confirm JB's birth date and place of birth.

Thanks to FifthEssence for narrowing down all the JB's!

Thanks,
Soulscape

He was born in NEW YORK . The one document (M)confirming his birth date also noted his birthplace.
 
As many of you may already know, Geraldo just interviewed JB.

Among other things, he told Geraldo that "the public does not know Casey the way [he] knows Casey..."

JB has the planet Venus at 27 Scorpio. Venus signifies the type of woman he is attracted to. JB's Venus trines Casey's Sun and Mercury, so he is very attracted to who she is (Sun) and how she thinks (Mercury) --- if you can imagine...

JB's Moon (another significator of the kind of woman a man is attracted to) is at 18 Gemini in the sunrise chart. His Moon squares her Mercury. This could mean he is challenged by her thinking and not emotionally comfortable with it, a conflict with the above Venus trine Sun/Mercury contact. However, his Moon also trines her Jupiter and trines her Neptune, both aspects of infatuation (Jupiter) and devotion (Neptune).

JB's Part of Passion at 2 Leo conjuncts his natal Mars and falls in the 5th House of Romance of Casey's sunrise chart.

One other thing... JB's Sun at 23 Libra 36 conjuncts Spica, the most beneficent of Fixed Stars. Did he just get lucky? Or does this portend the Mother of Cosmic Jokes about to erupt in his smug, infatuated face?

(I saw his signature --- it is one of the most flamboyant, egotistical signatures I have ever seen...)

I'm sure our other astute astrologers will have a lot to add.....

Thanks,
Soulscape
 
As many of you may already know, Geraldo just interviewed JB.

Among other things, he told Geraldo that the public "does not know Casey the way [he] knows Casey..."

JB has the planet Venus at 27 Scorpio. Venus signifies the type of woman he is attracted to. JB's Venus trines Casey's Sun and Mercury, so he is very attracted to who she is (Sun) and how she thinks (Mercury) --- if you can imagine...

JB's Moon (another significator of the kind of woman a man is attracted to) is at 18 Gemini in the sunrise chart. His Moon squares her Mercury. This could mean he is challenged by her thinking and not emotionally comfortable with it, a conflict with the above Venus trine Sun/Mercury contact. However, his Moon also trines her Jupiter and trines her Neptune, both aspects of infatuation (Jupiter) and devotion (Neptune).

JB's Part of Passion at 2 Leo conjuncts his natal Mars and falls in the 5th House of Romance of Casey's sunrise chart.

One other thing... JB's Sun at 23 Libra 36 conjuncts Spica, the most beneficent of Fixed Stars. Did he just get lucky? Or does this portend the Mother of Cosmic Jokes about to erupt in his smug, infatuated face?

(I saw his signature --- it is one of the most flamboyant, egotistical signatures I have ever seen...)

I'm sure our other astute astrologers will have a lot to add.....

Thanks,
Soulscape
Thank you for this. It confirms much of what I have "felt":)
 
As many of you may already know, Geraldo just interviewed JB.

Among other things, he told Geraldo that "the public does not know Casey the way [he] knows Casey..."

JB has the planet Venus at 27 Scorpio. Venus signifies the type of woman he is attracted to. JB's Venus trines Casey's Sun and Mercury, so he is very attracted to who she is (Sun) and how she thinks (Mercury) --- if you can imagine...

JB's Moon (another significator of the kind of woman a man is attracted to) is at 18 Gemini in the sunrise chart. His Moon squares her Mercury. This could mean he is challenged by her thinking and not emotionally comfortable with it, a conflict with the above Venus trine Sun/Mercury contact. However, his Moon also trines her Jupiter and trines her Neptune, both aspects of infatuation (Jupiter) and devotion (Neptune).

JB's Part of Passion at 2 Leo conjuncts his natal Mars and falls in the 5th House of Romance of Casey's sunrise chart.

One other thing... JB's Sun at 23 Libra 36 conjuncts Spica, the most beneficent of Fixed Stars. Did he just get lucky? Or does this portend the Mother of Cosmic Jokes about to erupt in his smug, infatuated face?

(I saw his signature --- it is one of the most flamboyant, egotistical signatures I have ever seen...)

I'm sure our other astute astrologers will have a lot to add.....

Thanks,
Soulscape
Very interesting sort of sums up what we have all started thinking a ways back jmo !!!
 
Please do not tell us that JB is going to be another victim whose life is destroyed by KC!
 
I am deeply saddened that I share the same bday with JB...not year though. And, was also born in NY.

Note to All: FifthEssence PM'd me with some additional research that appears to confirm this is the correct Jose Baez and thus 10/17/68 is the correct birth date. However, we still don't have a place of birth for him. I am again asking that you contact your friends/ family who may work in a Florida law office and have access to the Florida volume of the Martindale-Hubbell. This volume would confirm JB's birth date and place of birth.

Thanks to FifthEssence for narrowing down all the JB's!

Thanks,
Soulscape
 
:behindbarThe Full Moon on Dec. 13 and then again the planets of the following Tuesday afflict Casey's chart so powerfully that she may want to tear those pages off the calendar. The Sun will be on her Mars-Uranus square her Mercury with Saturn also square her Mercury and the Moon completing a Mutable Grand Square: all four points mutually afflicting one another. Also called a Mutable Grand Cross. By Dec. 16, Mars and Saturn will move even closer. Mars will be 21:34 Sag and Saturn 21:32 Virgo at zero hours of the 16th. Fighting and failing, fighting and failing. Nerves on wires. Anger that cannot be contained.

From what I know of this woman, I would not be surprised to see her turn and bite Baez in the calf. She does destroy relationships. If she loses control and targets him, even briefly, she will lose the only person who is truly in her corner. I don't mean that he would end his representation--it would have to go some for that. He has been very protective of her in the way he knows how and there would be a sharp attitude shift if Casey comes at him crooked. Because she is capable of such a mistake, I wish I could find Mr. B's birthday.

Tuba, thanks so much for your insight and posts.

My bold above. Who is she fighting with?

From the info that you posted above, do you think that when this happens (is this the fighting?) on Dec 13th, Casey will be incarcerated, and by the 16th she has had as much as she can take?

And by biting him in the calf, do you mean that literally or figuritively? I can't imagine that this would be allowed in jail, and cannot even imagine that she would want to hurt him, as he is her best ally.

I believe that Baez knows the truth, but because of the money and now his celebrety status, that he would never turn against her or end his representation of her. He knows she killed her daughter. Does this indicate that he will begin to shun her? I cannot ever see that happening, as he wants his notority and would do anything in her defense.

He seems like a novice, especially when he was on court tv and could not understand the disclosure rules. He wanted the prosecution to do all of his work for him. The prosecution and judge stated that many times. They had to repeat it over and over again.

I think he coddles and placates Casey, sets her in a room to roam on the internet and only interacts with her when he needs to set up an alibi/excuse as to her behavior.

Is he getting frustrated with her or tired of her? Will his outward demeanor change, so that we can visibly see that he is not supporting her?

I know I have a lot of questions, but just wanted to get your view. Thank you so much!!

Laney
 
Good reading, astros.

JB is beyond it all. Plus suits his fantasies and dreams. Geraldo makes a remark that JB is a better lawyer than his client deserves (referring to the heinousness of the crime for which she will be charged). JB's reponse is to the effecct that no one knows the Casey that he does.

Bleh.

I am so sick of this run of luck for months on end, even years, please let it be known what she is. If not that justice.


Gossip says that JB gained weight, and we cannot see his wedding ring anymore. Too fat? Or did his wife give him the pitch?

JMHO
 
I am deeply saddened that I share the same bday with JB...not year though. And, was also born in NY.

Hi Misheley,

Sharing a birthday with JB doesn't mean a thing & is certainly nothing to be sad about, even if it were the same year.

JB has some pretty nice aspects going on in his chart and I bet you do, too. For one thing, his Sun (and yours!) is conjunct (next to) the benefic Fixed Star Spica. This is the most fortunate star in the heavens and goes far to give the native protection and blessings.

Everyone --- Housemouse & I have told you all before, over & over: it's not the stars that control your life --- it's you!!!

Use your energies well, People.

Thanks,
Soulscape
 
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