sarah7855
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Wow. Is there anyone on this girl's defense team that is not a total loser?
Everything and everyone that this case touches...pure evil, I'm telling you!
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Wow. Is there anyone on this girl's defense team that is not a total loser?
I guess my question would still be why on several occasions checks bounced, if the client money was sitting in the trust account where it belongs and nothing else was done with it. Money for clients comes into trust account, and either sits there or is disbursed to clients.
If it is still pending, wonder why he didn't disclose it to the court in Florida? That seems unwise.
Yeah, really!
It's a poorly thought out risk, at best. So much for the high-profile grandeur deemed to be:takeabow:sooooo intimidating!
Macaluso has filed another motion to follow up the original. :deal: I thought I'd put it in the news thread, but realized it should also go in here, too, for clarity.
He is my legal analysis:
WHAT THE BLANKETTY BLANK WAS THIS GUY THINKING? :shakehead:
Now he's gonna be "the lawyer who lied on the motion." Whether he is responsible for the alleged acts or not, it's not the most prudent way to treat these motions. It's viewed as a showing of disrespect for the "host" state. Judges have good memories. :gavel:
Link For Macaluso's Verified Amended Motion To Appear Pro Hac Vice:
:wolf:http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Amended%20Verified%20Motion%20for%20Admission%20to%20Appear%20Pro%20Hac%20Vice.pdf:wolf:
Humble-Opinion:wolf:
Will your state's Bar investigate his alleged misrepresentation on his motion in Florida or just leave it to the state where the motion was filed? How far-reaching are they? Doesn't that take it over the top? What's the innocent story on that one? I have not heard how he is justifying that little slip up.
humble-opinion :wolf:
The CA State Bar will not investigate the motion to appear pro hac vice unless someone files a complaint with them about it. Then they will call him first to see what his response is. My guess is that he would say it was an oversight that was corrected. If it was corrected that will be the end of it as far as the state bar is concerned.
The CA State Bar will not investigate the motion to appear pro hac vice unless someone files a complaint with them about it. Then they will call him first to see what his response is. My guess is that he would say it was an oversight that was corrected. If it was corrected that will be the end of it as far as the state bar is concerned.
I guess my question would still be why on several occasions checks bounced, if the client money was sitting in the trust account where it belongs and nothing else was done with it. Money for clients comes into trust account, and either sits there or is disbursed to clients.
If it is still pending, wonder why he didn't disclose it to the court in Florida? That seems unwise.
The CA State Bar will not investigate the motion to appear pro hac vice unless someone files a complaint with them about it. Then they will call him first to see what his response is. My guess is that he would say it was an oversight that was corrected. If it was corrected that will be the end of it as far as the state bar is concerned.
On WFTV's 11 PM newscast, story is not up on their site yet.
Under investigation for writing bad checks for money he owed to clients - one check was for $108,000!
Their legal analyst said that it could prevent him from practicing in FL.
Kathy Belich hit him with it after court today, he said "the matter is being resolved."
An interesting, not so good day for the ahem "Dream Team."
OMG! ROTFLMAO!! :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:
Where does Baez find these people?
Seriously, have they not learned yet, that whoever enters this case will be sleuthed up one side and down the other........sheeeeesh
Thanks MH. Have you seen his original motion? I'm wondering how he "forgot" to mention this pending action, and why it wasn't remembered until WFTV reported on it?
Would the judge take this into account in deciding whether or not to allow him to participate?
If you want to read the actual state bar charges and his response go to www.calsb.org--upper right hand corner of screen click "Attorney Search"-then plug in his last then first name. Scroll down and there are pdf files of the charges and his response. Diane Karpman who is THE State Bar charges defense counsel is his attorney. One of the courses I teach to CA attorneys is "Client Trust Accounts: A Primer" so I'm pretty familiar with all of the cases in which this happened. Yes, it is one of the most serious things an attorney can be accused of doing. When a check bounces in your client trust account the bank is required to notify the state bar. Appears that is what happened here on several occasions. His defense is that his 44 year old brother suddenly died of a heart attack and he had to take care of his mother as a result--plus the ordinary grief that goes with it so he wasn't minding the store so to speak and allowed his staff to manage his CTA. Problem with this is that an attorney is not permitted to delegate handling of his CTA to anyone ever. That said, he has no prior record of discipline, is cooperating with the state bar investigation, the money was immediately sent to the clients, the clients did not complain to the state bar and he claims he did not steal the money. If it is true he didn't steal the money, my guess is that he will only have to attend state bar ethics school on handling CTA and nothing more will happen to him. The same thing happened to my former partner when her brother was dying of cancer and her secretary stole her client trust funds. It would be different if he actually stole the money then he would be suspended.
Thank YOU, Muzikman, for all you do for us!!! In my gut sorry but just could not resist, I feel that if wftv had not uncovered this bad "OOPSIE" as you so correctly deemed it, he never would have "fessed up" and would have just proceeded merrily along. As we discussed before, it is the squeaky clean credentials of the applying lawyer which are scrutinized, not so much the sponsoring local guy.
This is a serious form which as was pointed out, is contained in a template, for the Judicial Administration Handbook for Florida.
I cannot see how the issue of his failure to reveal the truth until the news station did it for him can be avoided. Even if it isn't mentioned, it's a looming black cloud.
I doubt the Judiciary wants to send a message that Material Misrepresentations are no big deal on these motions, or that it's Okay to forget things about yourself. There is plenty of precedent for revoking the temporary admission to engage in the practice of law, when this motion is not treated with utmost respect & honesty. Little things grow in proportion when they are omitted for convenience sake, or omitted to push this motion thru the system. Not saying that will happen, that permission will be revoked, just that it's been done in Florida.:gavel:
Humble-Opinion rendered from floor, as this whole thing knocked me off the couch; I guess this is what he meant:wink::wolf:
Also, in my experience, I don't think stealing this amount of money can be blamed on an "underling" - how many associates/staff have access to law firm money? In my experience everything is charged to the firm, and the firm deals with the client's money.
If it was just a "misunderstanding," why is there a bar complaint? Wouldn't the client just complain to HIM and he would correct the mistake and hand over the money? I doubt a client would report him for an honest clerical mistake that was resolved.
Yes I know, I was aghast that it happened several times and the amount of money that was involved. However, the State Bar's primary concern in these matters is whether the money was stolen by him because he needed it or otherwise. I'm familiar with him and I know he does not need the money so it is doubtful he intentionally misappropriated it for his own gain. My guess is he is telling the truth and that he gave his staff access to his CTA and they screwed up. Perhaps they paid one client with another's funds before the first client's funds cleared; perhaps they paid litigation expenses out of it instead of from the business account; perhaps there was client money deposited for court costs and they went over the amount that was deposited. I don't know the actual specifics of how it all happened. But unless he intentionally took the money knowing it belonged to his clients the worse they will do to him is a public reproval. Most likely he will go to ethics school and have to retake the professional responsibility exam.
What gets me is the appearance that he used trust funds as his personal loan company. It appears he did this more than once. Bechler's case smells of either hiding money from his clients or outright spending it on himself.
I know it appears he makes alot of money. But I bet he spends it quickly. Here is an example. He has that plane, which WFTV showed is part of what those escrow funds paid for. Planes are expensive to maintain and put it the air! What an ego he has. He can't fly Southwest like most other attorney's do? Big sign he blows as much money as he makes. And then you have today's economy. People who used to be millionaire's are now having to move back home to live with mom and dad.
It wouldn't shock me to find out this guys finances are a mess and that's the reason for dipping into clients funds.
I won't comment on him and his need for money, if you know him. But it wouldn't be unheard of for someone who appeared to have plenty of money to raid client funds to cover up. Some people feel entitled. I read the CA bar complaint and the response. There are several incidents of bounced checks, and the complaint at least alleges that money was taken for his personal use, giving 2 examples. One amount is pretty large. It doesn't appear that any of these incidents is the same as the Bechler matter. I haven't read anything about the merits of that, but the blurb did say it was a declaratory judgment action. Maybe they are disputing who is entitled to funds. ??
As to blaming the underlings, I thought rules about escrow and trust accounts were specifically set up to take that defense away from lawyers, or they'd use it every time they got caught. Even if money was taken for a time without client awareness, was taken for any personal use, and then returned, there might be some serious consequences for that. Anyway, glad it's his problem and not mine. Also wonder how it could slip his mind that he had a disciplinary action pending when he has a status conference scheduled in only a couple of weeks. He must have to consult his calendar to see whn he can be in Florida for TV time.