GUILTY GA - Antonio Santiago, 13 mos, Brunswick, 21 March 2013 - #1

[PoirotryInMotion]

From your link:

After spending hours on that and other leads to ensure the information was credible, investigators established the name and location of the 14-old-suspect and took him into custody, the release said.
Investigators analyzed statements made by the 14-year-old and those made earlier by West to identify, locate and arrest De'Marquise Kareem Elkins, Rhodes' release said.


I think that answers our question as to if the 14 year old is talking.
He is.

(BBM) Good catch!

 

[tlcya]

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...ys-slaying-brunswick-police-say#ixzz2OV5eiFfG

Wonder where the aunt's mother's house is located in relation to the scene of the shooting. Sounds to me like it might be near. After the shooting, the kids run on foot to DE's mom's house, flag down a ride from 14 year old's Aunt, who may actually have driven into the area of the scene of the shooting, DE ducks down in the seat and attempts to not be seen in the car, causing her suspicion, and also, apparently being noted by a witness at the crime scene.

All of this stuff that is now coming out makes me feel pretty darned confident LE knows what they are doing and have the right teens in custody.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

That could have been aunt of the 14 year old driving him -she says he layed in a back seat when she picked him up. She says she called it in, so maybe more than one tip came in.

Yes, but did she pick him up from the scene of the shooting?

"The tip to the Glynn County Police detectives was that someone had seen a vehicle leave the vicinity of the shooting with an individual crouched in the back."

From this, is sounds like the tipster is in Sherry's neighborhood (not his), watching the car leave the scene right after the shooting.

 

[jjenny]

Yes, but did she pick him up from the scene of the shooting?

"The tip to the Glynn County Police detectives was that someone had seen a vehicle leave the vicinity of the shooting with an individual crouched in the back."

From this, is sounds like the tipster is in Sherry's neighborhood (not his), watching the car leave the scene right after the shooting.

She picked him up from her mother's house, according to her. Since I don't know where her mother lives, I can't answer your question.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...ys-slaying-brunswick-police-say#ixzz2OV5eiFfG

Wonder where Elkin's mother's house is located in relation to the scene of the shooting. Sounds to me like it might be near. After the shooting, the kids run on foot to DE's mom's house, flag down a ride from 14 year old's Aunt, who may actually have driven into the area of the scene of the shooting, DE ducks down in the seat and attempts to not be seen in the car, causing her suspicion, and also, apparently being noted by a witness at the crime scene.

All of this stuff that is now coming out makes me feel pretty darned confident LE knows what they are doing and have the right teens in custody.

I posted the map a few pages back; here it is again for reference.

A = post office on Gloucester St.
B = scene of crime at London & Ellis (West home is around the corner from B on Union St.)
C = Elkins residence on MLK Blvd (where sister lives/where DE arrested - not sure if mom is there, too)

*Search warrant also executed at Gordon St, northeast of C (where they confiscated a rifle)

 

[Lady Rockford]

Hi all. I'm new to the board but have been reading for a while. I must say I appreciate all that you do and hope to help where I can.

Whether of not Mr. Santiago was the bio-dad doesn't really matter to me. My son married his high school sweetheart when she was pregnant by another man (who left). My 8-year old grandson is bi-racial and has only known my son as his dad.

I just cannot imagine their pain.

 

[jjenny]

Aunt of the 14 year old didn't pick him up from the home of Elkin's mother. She picked him up from the home of her mother. 14 year old and Elkins are not related.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Aunt of the 14 year old didn't pick him up from the home of Elkin's mother. She picked him up from the home of her mother. 14 year old and Elkins are not related.

Right. That's what I'm reading anyway.

And I agree with you. If we don't know where she lives we can't say if she lives in the same vicinity of the crime or not.

 

[tlcya]

I think the tip to LE about the car with DE crouched down in it is indeed about the Aunt of the 14 year old's car. I also think the Aunt helped identify her nephew, who in turn identified DE.

one does not necessarily negate or contradict the other.

Sounds like LE had lots of leads to go on in IDing their suspects.

I suspect things went down like I described. Later in the day, after hearing about the shooting, I think Auntie tried to corner nephew as to what was going on. His responses are what made her suspect his involvement along with the unnamed teen who had also been in her car.

She was wise to tell LE what she knew and of the ride. She was an accessory after the fact even if she had no knowledge of it at the time.

I also, in re-reading the info provided by that 14 year olds aunt. It is not specified that she contacted police, but rather that she decided to talk to police.

"I said...if you've got something to do with this little baby, you can't talk to me. I'm your auntie," said Obley. "He said 'Auntie, I don't even know the boy. I don't have anything to do with that.'"

Even though he wouldn't talk to her, Obley decided to talk to police. While it's hard to see her nephew behind bars, Obley said she feels she did the right thing.

This may mean that a description of the car led LE to her which then brought out her story of the events of the morning.

So I may have been premature in giving her props regarding contacting LE, they may have actually contact her. But I do still give her credit for doing the right thing and identifying her nephew to them.

 

[tlcya]

I posted that aunt picked them up from elkins moms in error and have edited accordingly. The teens were picked up from Obley's (aunt) mom's house. sorry for confusion.

Welcome Lady Rockford. So glad to have you join us

 

[Darkman00]

to me it doesn't really matter who picked whom up ... etc ...

those two teens are two <mod snip>.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Aunt of the 14 year old didn't pick him up from the home of Elkin's mother. She picked him up from the home of her mother. 14 year old and Elkins are not related.

Do you have a link concerning whether or not the 2 boys were related? TIA

 

[tlcya]

I find the hows of what went down very relevant as it will all be fodder at trial. Once suspects are in custody, I tend to look toward trial and the various defenses that will be put forth, along with what evidence exists to be put before the jury.

I am trying to get a picture of the hours between shooting and arrests. Somewhere within those hours, the gun was tossed or hidden or handed off to someone else. So where these boys went and when becomes very important to me at this point.

That is just where my thoughts go at this time, towards trial.

 

[tlcya]

I don't think we have any info on how the two teens know one another or if they are related in some way but I doubt if they are related that it is closely. No way to know for sure without knowing who the younger one is.

 

[Hickory Born]

Thank you for the map. I know Brunswick, Ga. I have been vacationing on a island near there for the past 35 years and go into Brunswick antiquing.

Please let me point out that Martin Luther King Blvd extends further south, even past London St. Gloucester St is one of the main streets in town with government buildings, antique shops, and City Market (where one can buy fresh local shrimp).

The area near Martin Luther King Blvd & Stonewall St. (on the south side of Gloucester) is very runned down and I wouldn't think of driving through there for safety reasons. I stay on the main streets.

Also, I read that Ms. West stated the boys ran East. That would be toward the rundown sketchy area. I am thinking they did not have to run too far.

 

[iamnotagolem]

I find the hows of what went down very relevant as it will all be fodder at trial. Once suspects are in custody, I tend to look toward trial and the various defenses that will be put forth, along with what evidence exists to be put before the jury.

I am trying to get a picture of the hours between shooting and arrests. Somewhere within those hours, the gun was tossed or hidden or handed off to someone else. So where these boys went and when becomes very important to me at this point.

That is just where my thoughts go at this time, towards trial.

That is why I was inquiring about an autopsy. Surely one was done and it just hasn't been reported, otherwise what prevents the defense from saying the boy was dead in the stroller when shot by the perps?

 

[tlcya]

this was a shocking case. I am willing to bet an autopsy was immediately done on this little guy

I don't think we have to fear anything on that count. It is indisputable that this child was shot in the face. I think that the defense will be more about how it was not these teens but some other unknown teens.

 

[thistle]

That is why I was inquiring about an autopsy. Surely one was done and it just hasn't been reported, otherwise what prevents the defense from saying the boy was dead in the stroller when shot by the perps?

Seems like that would be quite a stretch- what are the odds, that for some unknown reason this mother would kill her child, & then wheel him around the neighborhood, just in case she runs into 2 little murderous thugs?

 

[iamnotagolem]

Seems like that would be quite a stretch- what are the odds, that for some unknown reason this mother would kill her child, & then wheel him around the neighborhood, just in case she runs into 2 little murderous thugs?

I didn't say or insinuate that she killed her child.

I am concerned that if there were no autopsy, that it would benefit the defense. But it sounds like my concern is probably unnecessary.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Do you have a link concerning whether or not the 2 boys were related? TIA

Nevermind (and thanks if you've been looking) - I found it:

http://www.news4jax.com/news/Brunsw...75880/19439744/-/item/1/-/8t4s9y/-/index.html

"She tells Channel 4 that she gave Elkins a ride from her mother's house, not knowing who he was."