The neighbor who lives across from the apartment where the child was tortured needs to be ruled out. I'm curious to know if he is a RSO and was ruled out. He could have grabbed Jorelys and taken her in the apartment across the hall but LE said the the previous tenant had a key so they likely kept the door locked until the day they carried out their plan to murder the child.
The previous tenant probably had a key because they didn't turn them in. Typically, a resident who leaves a mess doesn't turn in their keys - they just don't care. This sounds like a skip anyway. Someone who owed rent or was evicted.
If he wanted to know when Jorelys got off the school bus, all he had to do was walk or look outside his window. I personally dont think he committed this crime but LE needs to know if he heard or saw anyone living in the apartment who was there on Friday. I wonder if LE are interested in pursuing the leads the detectives who inspected the apartment generated.
Of course they talked to the guy across the hall and asked if her heard or saw something - and why wouldn't they pursue other leads?
LE said it appeared to him that the former was still living there so it looks like they hadnt finished moving out yet and thats why they had a key to the apartment and were allowed to be there.
The apartment she was killed in was noted as a vacant and thus, why "Mark" the maintenance person took LE to it. Not that I've read everything, but where did you hear the former resident still had a key?
In November Joseline moved out of an apartment into another at RR complex so I wonder why she wanted to move - what was her purpose for doing that?
IIRC, she got a roommate.
Feces was spotted in the apartment which suggests the tenant had young children in diapers who were in the process of being toilet trained.
??? They were mistaken IIRC. Are you saying the former resident was potty training and the child pooped all over and they just left it? ewww.
LE also detected blood droplets from a nosebleed and because the heat was on in the apartment, a dry climate can cause a child's nose to bleed.
LE said this? I believe what the officer said was he "thought" the blood was from a nose bleed. All that was mentioned about the heat was the officer had to get out of the apartment because it was so hot.
Doctors recommend applying vaseline into the nasal passages to eliminate the problem. Normally a caretaker inspects a suite with the tenant the day the lease expires and the tenants turn in the keys, etc. Joseline had plans but I don't know what they were.
I doubt the resident that left furniture and trash all over the place would go to the manager and ask her to walk the apartment with them? It's never happened to me, ever. Walking the apartment is not a requirement, it's optional for the resident so they can have something signed stating whether or not there will be charges to the deposit. ---- "Joseline had plans.....????
The killer disposed of the body immediately after they had finished beating up an innocent child so they didnt leave a dead body in the apartment. It is too risky and besides, the killer planned everything out in advance and it was executed effeciently and with precision. The killer knew the child had to be reported missing and LE had to be notified so they removed the body after the child was beaten nearly to death and had no intention of going back there because they had to leave and be where they were supposed to be to cover up the crime and avoid further questioning.
BEM: How do we know the body was disposed of immediately? We know she died within two hours, but not when the body was taken to the compactor.
We don't know that it was planned and we KNOW it wasn't done efficiently, there was blood all over the place....as for precision, how is that defined in this case?
BEM 2: Nearly beaten to death? She was still alive when thrown in the dumpster?
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If the victim wasnt dead but unconscious after the beating, duct tape over the mouth prevented them from moaning or using their hands and feet should they regain consciousness. The killer took this into consideration. When the elements of premeditation and planning are present, the charges are first degree murder punishable by lethal injection. Therefore the killer can't claim they were insane when they committed the crime so they wouldn't be able to plea "not guilty due to reasons of insanity".
Making sure she was dead does not prove premeditation and it's not requisite for an insanity plea. Knowing right from wrong excludes the insanity plea.
Jorelys was murdered in early December and her father was expecting her to come and spend the Christmas Holidays with him. What was the mother's plan? Joreslys looks afraid in some of her most recent pictures imo. The mother said the last time she saw her daughter was on Thursday so she did wasn't protecting her child from harm the day the crime against her occurred. The mother said she had no contact with her daughter around the time she was murdered and I do not believe her.
This would mean everyone who said she was sleeping were lying to LE?
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Q: Does anyone know of a previous case where a mother was convicted for sexually assaulting, beating and murdering their own child? Melissa Huckaby, the Sunday School teacher, had one daughter but the girl she kidnapped, sexually assaulted and murdered, Sandra Cantu, was not her child - IOW Melissa didn't inflict or dump her emotional problems onto her child - IOW, she protected her child from experiencing her pain.
Step-mothers, foster caretakers, and girlfriends - but I've not read or heard of a biological mother molesting and killing her child. I will tell you that I know mothers molest their children - but it's hard to prove, especially when the child is dead and they can't tell what happened to them.
Was there animosity between the mother and father over the little girl? I don't recall.